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post #31 of 515
I would have to concur with the glare issues with the LX900. I guess it's more of an issue with the glass vs. matte screen so really it probably isn't limited to just Sony but to TVs with a glass screen.

The glare really stands out when the scene is darker. I never really noticed as the programming I watch and games I play tend to have brighter scenes. I started to play some Halo : Reach and when I reached dark areas, oh boy did the glare really suck. I had to close my blinds and sit at an angle just to get rid of the glare. I previously had a XBR4 which was matte and never really had a problem with glare (still there although not as bad).

Even so, I still like the TV. Can't wait for more 3D content. I kinda wishing I had waited for the 60" NX810 (had I known before I purchased the LX900) as that unit has the dynamic Edge lit (though I hear dynamic lighting has it's issues too).
post #32 of 515
Any settings on this set yet ?
post #33 of 515
Took the plunge and got a great deal on the lx900 from an authorized dealer. Got it all hooked up yesterday!! Awesome picture w/o any adjustments right out of the box!!! Highly recommend!!!
post #34 of 515
I am seriously considering the XL900 and would plan to wall mount it.
Does anyone know if it would work with the low profile mounts. Some mounts place tv no more than 1/2" from wall. Can you get the Xl900 this close with the connections on the back for Hdmi, coax etc?
Would appreciate any insight.
post #35 of 515
Can the remote with this tv be programmer to control cable box?

Just got the set and with no real manual it is hard to determine.
post #36 of 515
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Originally Posted by gatorhoops View Post

Can the remote with this tv be programmer to control cable box?

Just got the set and with no real manual it is hard to determine.

Pg 5 of the manual states that this is a programmable remote. Go to http://esupport.sony.com/remotecodes and look for the model # of your STB...
post #37 of 515
Worked like a charm!!!!!!
post #38 of 515
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by Jake34 View Post

I am seriously considering the XL900 and would plan to wall mount it.
Does anyone know if it would work with the low profile mounts. Some mounts place tv no more than 1/2" from wall. Can you get the Xl900 this close with the connections on the back for Hdmi, coax etc?
Would appreciate any insight.

The rear connections all face sideways and the TV even includes a wire tunnel allowing you to place the TV as close to the wall as your mount will allow. My monoprice ultra low profile mount just arrived today and I hope to get my LX mounted this weekend.
post #39 of 515
Come on people! We can't lose out to the NX810 folks! Their model is only a KDL while our units are XBR's!

Anyway, to echo T100, does anybody have any calibration settings they would like to share?
post #40 of 515
Hiya...

Got the 60LX900 about a week ago and have been very happy with it so far, but have a few questions...none of which Sony has been able to answer. I've been spoiled by Apple...oh well.

On to the questions...

1) Has anyone gotten the Mild version of Eco -> Presence sensor to work? Strong, Moderate, and Demo all work fine for me and I can see it detect my face and all, but with the mild setting, the screen never goes off. I set the Picture off Timer to 5 mins and still nada

2) Picture Adjustments -> Picture Mode: I only seem to have Vivid, Standard, and Custom as my options while the iManus lists tons of others, i.e., Cinema, Sports, Game-Standard, Game-Original, Graphis, Photo-Vivid, Photo-Standard, etc. Any ideas why none of those other settings are available on devices connected via HDMI or Component?

3) Finally...back to the Presence Sensor. While I'm trying to get the Mild setting to work, I actually prefer the Moderate setting with one exception. Once the room gets dark, the TV can no longer make out any faces so shifts to low power mode on the screen...the only way to defeat that seems to be mild mode...which doesn't work ;-/

Thanks for the thoughts....
post #41 of 515
Oh...there seems to be a new Firmware too: 4.081. The sony site still lists 4.079 as most current...anyone have a link to what the changes were?
post #42 of 515
@nOrbX187

Mine is getting calibrated in about six weeks after the break-in period...I'll be happy to share the settings...if you can wait that long ;-)
post #43 of 515
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Originally Posted by rwr1776 View Post

@nOrbX187

Mine is getting calibrated in about six weeks after the break-in period...I'll be happy to share the settings...if you can wait that long ;-)

Hope sony sends my 60lx900 in less than 6-weeks. Does anyone see the need (yet) to create a calibration & setting thread?

Also, has anyone used settings from other sony models (i.e. threads; ex500, ex700, nx810). i guess the lx900 is more like the ex series as far as edge-lit but big difference in screen (glass vs. matte); nx series may not be suitable for settings on lx but wondered if anyone had used as a "baseline".....
post #44 of 515
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Originally Posted by xxrando View Post

The rear connections all face sideways and the TV even includes a wire tunnel allowing you to place the TV as close to the wall as your mount will allow. My monoprice ultra low profile mount just arrived today and I hope to get my LX mounted this weekend.


Interested in how that mount works, please take pictures if possible. I noticed the stock mount seems to be low profile and designed for the LX900, will be great if this monoprice one works just as well.
post #45 of 515
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Originally Posted by rwr1776 View Post

@nOrbX187

Mine is getting calibrated in about six weeks after the break-in period...I'll be happy to share the settings...if you can wait that long ;-)


May want to try this burn-in disc, used it on a Panasonic Plasma, and I'm using on this display as well:
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...&&#post6230381

ISF calibration to follow...
post #46 of 515
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Originally Posted by John Haghighi View Post

Interested in how that mount works, please take pictures if possible. I noticed the stock mount seems to be low profile and designed for the LX900, will be great if this monoprice one works just as well.

Ditto...no lx models in my area yet so photos needed. also looking for a mount solution but have to span (3) joists. cannot seem to locate an articulating mount with 3-joist span. i like the lx wire channel which allows all wires to be routed to the center. in my case the cc speaker would block wire drops so no need to cut into wall.
post #47 of 515
Thus far I've watched some 3D material on DirecTV, and a few games. The Sony 3D Demo disc is by far the best out of all the material. I think the 3D aspect is okay, there is noticeable ghosting. I can't say I'd use it a lot. The 2D to 3D mode is interesting, will see how it is with football today. I think source material/production is a big factor.

One thing I do not like is the glare, it is pretty annoying. If you have a bright room, or windows facing the TV or insight at any angle you are going to see the reflection.

I am not sure what Sony was thinking, maybe this was a requirement for 3D.

I setup all the widgets for internet video, watched Netflix HD, thought quality was really good, just as good as XBR2 w/Xbox 360. I also played around with motion flow "smooth" setting. It is funny how this makes the picture seem so video like, I think this is what ppl are calling the "soap" effect.

I'm running the burn-in disc in between viewing sessions, and I'll be doing initial calibrations later this week. Some of the picture setting options are similar to XBR2, so there is some initial calibration that can be done without professional tools. I am hoping I can dial in the black levels, was impossible to do on a store model, guessing this will need ISF if possible.

One thing of note is I've read quite a bit of reviews on Full-Array/Local Dimming vs. Edge Lit this model has, and it seems the edge-lit models when done right can be just as uniform if done right.

I liked this article
post #48 of 515
I agree the edge light looks great and I was worried about because I couldn't get a good dark room experience at BB. However, once in home, movies at night look great; no edge lighting problems...Sony did a good job.

To those who mention the reflections....as one who was moving from Plasma to LCD, this Sony has far less reflections than did my previous set. That said, I think it's the price one pays for the monolithic form factor. For me, it's well worth it as whatever coating Sony is using makes for far less reflections than I've seen in others.

Still haven't gotten the presence sensor to work in the mild setting or been able to access any of the picture modes other than Standard, Vivid, and Custom.

Any thoughts on these points?
post #49 of 515
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Originally Posted by rwr1776 View Post

I agree the edge light looks great and I was worried about because I couldn't get a good dark room experience at BB. However, once in home, movies at night look great; no edge lighting problems...Sony did a good job.

To those who mention the reflections....as one who was moving from Plasma to LCD, this Sony has far less reflections than did my previous set. That said, I think it's the price one pays for the monolithic form factor. For me, it's well worth it as whatever coating Sony is using makes for far less reflections than I've seen in others.

Still haven't gotten the presence sensor to work in the mild setting or been able to access any of the picture modes other than Standard, Vivid, and Custom.

Any thoughts on these points?

So I have a 2010 Panasonic Plasma, it has glare, but not as much as the LX. I also would not dump the Panny Plasma for the LCD, the plasma has a more film like presentation and deeper blacks. I just have it in a bad location right now so I am more annoyed than I normally would be.

The instructions are in the i-manual under the index, look for "scene select", to select a preset display setting other than Standard, Vivid, and Custom do the following:

Home>Preferences>Scene Select>Cinema, Sports, Photo, Music, Game, Graphics, General, Auto (default).

quick access on remote: options > scene select
post #50 of 515
has anyone found any settings listed from reviews or is anyone having the set isf calibrated? I am so curious to compare ISF calibrated settings to my current settings! I think I have everything pretty good except for gray scale.
post #51 of 515
Thanks John...

I did see those, but thought they were different since the other settings were referenced as Picture settings which could be assigned to any given input.

So basically...the iManual has similar settings under both Preference and Picture & Display menu trees, but I only find them under Preferences.

Make sense?

Oh...and apparently the 4.081 firmware update fixed the "Mild Setting" on the Preference sensor. It shuts off the screen as expected now. I've tried to find release notes for the 4.81 firmware but neither they, or the firmware itself, are posted yet on Sony's site.
post #52 of 515
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Originally Posted by Parrish View Post

has anyone found any settings listed from reviews or is anyone having the set isf calibrated? I am so curious to compare ISF calibrated settings to my current settings! I think I have everything pretty good except for gray scale.

I will likely get this done in December. I've done a calibration using Spears/Munsil disc on PS3, will hook up the Oppo later. Huge difference in all the preset modes... let's post our settings thus far and see where we are at...

I do have to say the edge lighting was apparanent when calibrating, I made some compromises in settings to get it as close as possible without going into service menu or being able to properly set grayscale. I was amazed to see how much difference some of the settings made on the test patters...will post full settings later.
post #53 of 515
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Oh...and apparently the 4.081 firmware update fixed the "Mild Setting" on the Preference sensor. It shuts off the screen as expected now. I've tried to find release notes for the 4.81 firmware but neither they, or the firmware itself, are posted yet on Sony's site.

Where did you find 4.081, I downloaded 4.079 from Sony eSupport, did not see 4.081 posted, here were the details for 4.079:

Quote:


System Software Update (version 4.079) 10/11/2010 4.079

Improvements over version 4.076:

* Adds support for 3D video from the Qriocity IPTV service.
Note: The Qriocity service is available only in the United States.

Benefits provided by previous updates and included in version 4.79:

* Improves performance and stability of IPTV (Internet Protocol TV) features.
Note: IPTV allows you to enjoy HD (High Definition) programming from the Internet on your BRAVIA television that is connected to a broadband Internet connection.
* Installs an updated version of the on-screen i-Manual built into the BRAVIA television.
post #54 of 515
I have my LX set to update firmware automatically while idle, so a few days ago I noticed it doing so and check the firmware afterwards...4.081

If you go into home menu, its in the same area as iManual. I think under Product Info...
post #55 of 515
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Originally Posted by rwr1776 View Post

I have my LX set to update firmware automatically while idle, so a few days ago I noticed it doing so and check the firmware afterwards...4.081

If you go into home menu, its in the same area as iManual. I think under Product Info...

Yep know where the info is. I have auto update turned off. Just an old habit, I like to decide when updates are applied in case there is a potential to reset anything I've done, like calibrations

For that reason I wait till its posted to Sony's eSupport website for manual download, and read the release notes. It's not a guarantee that things won't be reset as I am sure they are not posting complete details of changes, but at least I can blame myself if I update the firmware via USB and my settings get hosed.

I am sure it will be up there in a few days...
post #56 of 515
So how is everybody enjoying there set. I'm waiting on mine to come in (I see no settings yet) . Two of my neighbors own this set and from what i've seen it looks great.
post #57 of 515
I noticed that 4.081 has been posted to the e-support site if you hadn't seen it yet.

Of course the release notes are a joke and do not even mention having fixed the problem with presence detection in 4.079. Of course to indicate something's been fixed provides an admission that something was broken...ahh the world of consumer electronics.

I shared you auto update aversion, but for me found it was more a Microsoft update aversion and after having gone Mac several years ago, I find myself having broken my aversion. Here's hoping that Sony's updates have more in common with Apple than Microsoft ;-P
post #58 of 515
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Originally Posted by rwr1776 View Post

I noticed that 4.081 has been posted to the e-support site if you hadn't seen it yet.

Of course the release notes are a joke and do not even mention having fixed the problem with presence detection in 4.079. Of course to indicate something's been fixed provides an admission that something was broken...ahh the world of consumer electronics.

I shared you auto update aversion, but for me found it was more a Microsoft update aversion and after having gone Mac several years ago, I find myself having broken my aversion. Here's hoping that Sony's updates have more in common with Apple than Microsoft ;-P

Got the update

I run Win7x64 on Macbook Pro, as well as OS X, I just boot into Win7 for work and OS X afterwords....I still don't let itunes updates get pushed down from Apple until I know what it's going to break/lockout in the name of new features
post #59 of 515
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Originally Posted by T100 View Post

So how is everybody enjoying there set. I'm waiting on mine to come in (I see no settings yet) . Two of my neighbors own this set and from what i've seen it looks great.

Honestly, I am not that happy with the edge lighting, it is very noticeable in dark scenes, well more so with all black, how much it plays into regular watching is debatable, but it's hard to ignore for me. I will post my settings after another round of calibration to see if anything drifted..
post #60 of 515
The following settings were done with the Spears Munsil HD Benchmark Disc using a PS3 with the latest Firmware (4.81 and 3.5 on PS3). The calibration was done in the evening with no light source, complete dark. Assume that using these setting is for movie viewing only. I am going to just post what settings are relevant and/or turned on for the PS3 and LX900 after various toggling of options:

PS3 Settings:
Video Settings>BD/DVD Video Output Format>Y PB/Cb Pr/Cr
Display Settings>RGB Full Range HDMI:Full
Display Settings>Y PB/Cb Pr/Cr> Super White> On

XBR60 LX900 Settings all done under "Custom" not "Cinema" Scene Select set to "Auto"

Settings:
Preferences>Scene Select>Auto
Preferences>Eco>Power Saving>Low
Preferences>Eco>Light Sensor>off
Preferences>Eco>Position Control>off

Pictures & Display
Picture Adjustments>Setting Memory>Common
Picture Adjustments>Picture Mode>Custom

Backlight: 3
Picture: 61
Brightness: 48
Color: 55
Hue: 0
Color Temperature: Warm 2
Sharpness: 9
Noise Reduction: Off
MPEG Noise Reduction: Off
Motionflow: Off
CineMotion: Off

Advanced Settings:
Everything is Off and set to default EXCEPT

Adv. Contrast Enhancer: Low

I went back and forth on this adjusting brightness/picture to get the Dynamic Range Low pattern to show the bars, this was the best option without a professional calibration.

The display failed chroma multiburst and de-interlacing tests (likely PS3), and was very good with geometry.

Overall it did better than I expected. One thing I can't get over is daytime glare, it's bad. I plan on doing a daytime viewing mode in the near future.
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