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post #61 of 515
Sony took so long in getting the LX900 to market that 2011 CES is now only two months away. Anyone else waiting to see what SONY unveils at CES before buying? I'm hoping a 60-65" LED XBR is on the docket, for example.
post #62 of 515
Thx for sharing your settings- I will plug them into my set and evaluate compared to my current settings- I am looking for the next best thing to isf and this may be it- much appreciated.
post #63 of 515
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Originally Posted by xxrando View Post

The rear connections all face sideways and the TV even includes a wire tunnel allowing you to place the TV as close to the wall as your mount will allow. My monoprice ultra low profile mount just arrived today and I hope to get my LX mounted this weekend.

Any update on your monoprice ultra low profile mount? How did it go?
post #64 of 515
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Originally Posted by jmcy2k View Post

Sony took so long in getting the LX900 to market that 2011 CES is now only two months away. Anyone else waiting to see what SONY unveils at CES before buying? I'm hoping a 60-65" LED XBR is on the docket, for example.

I'm also hoping for a 60" local dimming set will be announced at the 2011 CES.
post #65 of 515
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Originally Posted by Gotchaa View Post

Any update on your monoprice ultra low profile mount? How did it go?

I didn't finish hiding the wires inside the wall yet, but this should be enough to give you an idea of how the mount works.


Monoprice Ultra-Slim Low Profile Wall Mount (PID 5918)


60LX900 on the mount with wires run to the middle and dropped down. 2 x 24AWG HDMI Cables (PID 6076) and Power Cord. Cables attached to TV with HDMI port savers (PID 2891).


Side profile. TV Sits about .75 inch from wall at the closest (bottom). I have it spanning 3 studs with screws on the outer studs. This causes the mount to sag away from the wall a bit but I suspect an additional screw in the center stud would prevent this. Actually the resulting tilt is kind of nice since the TV is mounted kind of high on the wall for room aesthetics.
post #66 of 515
picture looks pretty sweet, even from my computer screen! What's your impression thus far? Sonly just offered me that set, pretty heavily discounted, for all of my xbr2 woes. The tech who has done all my warranty work says go for it.
post #67 of 515
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Originally Posted by Parrish View Post

Thx for sharing your settings- I will plug them into my set and evaluate compared to my current settings- I am looking for the next best thing to isf and this may be it- much appreciated.

+1. Thank you. I used them, but had to raise the backlight to get more detail in blacks using MK 1 eyeball. Otherwise, colors look good. Now that I have a blu-Ray player on this TV location, I guess it's time to spring for a callibration disc.
post #68 of 515
Lol Joe, you and I both have been waiting for a long time.

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Originally Posted by JoeSony View Post

I'm also hoping for a 60" local dimming set will be announced at the 2011 CES.
post #69 of 515
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Originally Posted by mgbdude View Post

picture looks pretty sweet, even from my computer screen! What's your impression thus far? Sonly just offered me that set, pretty heavily discounted, for all of my xbr2 woes. The tech who has done all my warranty work says go for it.

The picture looks good not withstanding the defects common to edge lit LED models. I prefer it over my XBR1 SXRD. I always hated the sparkly whites and, of course, the blobs.
post #70 of 515
Just getting in on this thread.
I have XBR 60LX900 on the way.
Sony charged me $910 to get this set as a replacement for my 70" XBR2.
post #71 of 515
I am considering this TV as a replacement for my KDS-60A2000. I don't know if this is the same as the XBR1 SXRD that xxrando referenced above, but has anyone upgraded to the 60LX900 from the 60A2000, and is it a worthy upgrade/replacement?

Just to note: I am very happy with the A2000, but now that I have Kinect for Xbox 360, the A2000 is too deep for my small viewing space to allow me to utilize Kinect. So it is time to upgrade to a flat panel, which will allow me to have the Kinect sensor a good 14" or more further from the play space. That A2000 is like 20" deep.
post #72 of 515
I hear all these complaints about the LED edge lighting. The only thing I have noticed with my 60LX900 is that when there isn't a signal or the screen is totally black there are portion of the screen that are brighter than others. I have a total of 5 locations on the screen that aren't as uniform as the rest. Is this pretty standard or did I perhaps get a lemon? I'm pleased with all other aspects of the image completely.

These portions that are lighter can't be perceived while watching any content...at least not by my eyes.

Some feedback would be great as if it's truly something that others aren't experiencing then I'll demand a replacement. Need to know soon!
post #73 of 515
These bright portions are visible on mine as well and others have reported the same 5 areas where the leds are present I assume- but not noticeable when viewing any material- I think this is inherent to all current models of lcds with led backlighting since my full array led XBR8 also has this to some degree. If a greater number of leds were more evenly dispersed behind the screen then this would be less noticeable, but all current lcd with leds have a limited number of leds behind the screen. Does this make sense.
post #74 of 515
Yes, that makes sense...although I don't like it. Now, the LX900 is Edge Lit and there aren't actually any LED behind the LCD panel... I suspect that the glass bead panel behind the LCD is actually floating closer to the LCD panel in those places where it's brighter. That would account for the increased light output in those areas. I suspect that the LED's are arranged all the way around the perimeter of the LCD panel and not in clusters.
post #75 of 515
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Originally Posted by Ted99 View Post

+1. Thank you. I used them, but had to raise the backlight to get more detail in blacks using MK 1 eyeball. Otherwise, colors look good. Now that I have a blu-Ray player on this TV location, I guess it's time to spring for a callibration disc.

I've been using the Spears and Munsil as of late with success
post #76 of 515
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Originally Posted by tyscherb View Post

I hear all these complaints about the LED edge lighting. The only thing I have noticed with my 60LX900 is that when there isn't a signal or the screen is totally black there are portion of the screen that are brighter than others. I have a total of 5 locations on the screen that aren't as uniform as the rest. Is this pretty standard or did I perhaps get a lemon? I'm pleased with all other aspects of the image completely.

These portions that are lighter can't be perceived while watching any content...at least not by my eyes.

Some feedback would be great as if it's truly something that others aren't experiencing then I'll demand a replacement. Need to know soon!

I don't think there is anything wrong, it's just not uniform which is expected with this technology.

To put things in perspective, you are correct most times you will not notice at all during regular viewing. The folks on this forum are after perfection, we're nitpicking.

I honestly believe we are talking about incremental differences between these models once they are ISF calibrated..
post #77 of 515
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Originally Posted by TheMoose View Post

Just getting in on this thread.
I have XBR 60LX900 on the way.
Sony charged me $910 to get this set as a replacement for my 70" XBR2.

It keeps going down every week, sounds like they are ready to move on to 2011, which means these models may not have sold well in retail, not surprising given that 3D is really a niche market still and it's hard to justify the retail price of this TV.
post #78 of 515
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Originally Posted by xxrando View Post

I didn't finish hiding the wires inside the wall yet, but this should be enough to give you an idea of how the mount works.


Monoprice Ultra-Slim Low Profile Wall Mount (PID 5918)


60LX900 on the mount with wires run to the middle and dropped down. 2 x 24AWG HDMI Cables (PID 6076) and Power Cord. Cables attached to TV with HDMI port savers (PID 2891).


Side profile. TV Sits about .75 inch from wall at the closest (bottom). I have it spanning 3 studs with screws on the outer studs. This causes the mount to sag away from the wall a bit but I suspect an additional screw in the center stud would prevent this. Actually the resulting tilt is kind of nice since the TV is mounted kind of high on the wall for room aesthetics.

Nice mount, did you have any issues with the back of the LX900?

Were you able to correct the sag or just live with it? I can get over the price difference between the Sony recommended mount and monoprice...do you feel it's pretty secure?
post #79 of 515
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Originally Posted by Gotchaa View Post

It keeps going down every week, sounds like they are ready to move on to 2011, which means these models may not have sold well in retail, not surprising given that 3D is really a niche market still and it's hard to justify the retail price of this TV.

not sure the prices are really moving, or not much anyway. the price differences are based on the size tv being replaced (i.e. 50", 60", 70")

as far as selling well...nothing "high-end" is selling that well in this economy, certainly not 3d. based on what i have seen, sales forecasts/expectations for 3d is "high"...(unbelievably so)

the lx is only in larger market areas which would also explain low sales. yesterday, i was in atlanta on business; sonystyle only has the 52lx on display. bb (magnolia) has the 60lx well displayed but no site inventory...have to pickup at warehouse. they offered me (without asking) the 60lx at "list" with 3d starter kit and a bdp-s770 thrown in free.
post #80 of 515
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Originally Posted by Gotchaa View Post

It keeps going down every week, sounds like they are ready to move on to 2011, which means these models may not have sold well in retail, not surprising given that 3D is really a niche market still and it's hard to justify the retail price of this TV.

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Originally Posted by iamthehunter View Post

not sure the prices are really moving, or not much anyway. the price differences are based on the size tv being replaced (i.e. 50", 60", 70")

as far as selling well...nothing "high-end" is selling that well in this economy, certainly not 3d. based on what i have seen, sales forecasts/expectations for 3d is "high"...(unbelievably so)

the lx is only in larger market areas which would also explain low sales. yesterday, i was in atlanta on business; sonystyle only has the 52lx on display. bb (magnolia) has the 60lx well displayed but no site inventory...have to pickup at warehouse. they offered me (without asking) the 60lx at "list" with 3d starter kit and a bdp-s770 thrown in free.


I was surprised to see this thread barely 3 pages long for a set that came out in June but this is an "Early Adopter" set, it has all the newest bells & whistles & you are paying the price for them.

After finding out this set was one of the sets offered by Sony I went out to see it in person.
I went to 5 places in Tulsa, Ok, Audio Advice, Mathis Brothers & Ultimate electronics said they could get them but had no stock & no display, Video Revolution & Best Buy Magnolia has them in stock & on display.
The price is the same at all 5 stores.
They also had deals that included the 3D starter kit & the PS3 Move bundle.

Personally if it wasn't for Sony giving this to me as a replacement for my 70" XBR2 I would not be looking at 3D TV's at this time.
It's like when I first got into HDTV's, the price is high & there is very little content.

This set will tide me over till the LED 3D projectors are more mature.
post #81 of 515
Personally if it wasn't for Sony giving this to me as a replacement for my 70" XBR2 I would not be looking at 3D TV's at this time.
It's like when I first got into HDTV's, the price is high & there is very little content.


Ditto...but looking forward to playing with it during holidays...(3d that is)
post #82 of 515
Well maybe we'll see a surge in this thread when all of the xbr2 owners start receiving sets, I woudn't have found myself in the 3D camp either but for sony's offer for all my xbr2 woes. Don't have the lx yet, so I'm keeping an eye on this thread to glean any info I can. Good luck to all you new owners!
post #83 of 515
Sounds like there are more of us in this thread that got this as an upgrade from Sony, than went out and bought it. I still enjoy my 70" XBR2 size more. I would not have bought this generation of 3D had it not been for the offer.

But let's not sour it for the true early adopters!
post #84 of 515
I just got my 60" today as an upgrade from the XBR1.

I have to say that the picture quality is amazing. My brother had an A3000 and also has a Panny Plasma (with degrading black levels) and this TV is definitely a contender for picture quality. With a good source the quality is stunningly good.

The only beef I have is the brightness uniformity. There are "hot spots" where the black is a little brighter. Based on what I've read here we all have this issue to some degree. Unlike my green and pink SXRD, this is not noticeable on normal content. At this point I think I'll have to just put my OCD to bed and start enjoying all of the things that this set does right, even if there is a very minor thing wrong.

I have yet to thoroughly test the input lag, but I think it is higher than my SXRD even in game mode. I'd like to get some actual numbers, but I don't have any CRTs available to run the test.
post #85 of 515
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Originally Posted by c.kingsley View Post

....At this point I think I'll have to just put my OCD to bed and start enjoying all of the things that this set does right, even if there is a very minor thing wrong.

I think many of us could benefit from this, unfortunately once you get the bug it's hard to let it go...
post #86 of 515
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Originally Posted by Gotchaa View Post

I think many of us could benefit from this, unfortunately once you get the bug it's hard to let it go...

And when you have been burned by both the XBR 1 & XBR2 you tend to be a bit more critical!
post #87 of 515
I tinkered with the back cover of the TV and adjusted tightness of the screws on the back of the set today. I'm happy to report that I have eliminated the worst offending brightness hot spot in the center-left of my screen. The uniformity is now acceptable for me.

***Attempt at your own Risk***

I took the entire back panel off and then reinstalled it. I tightened each screw until it stopped but I didn't torque them down (a few of them were really wrenched down). These screws are only there to hold the back panel in place, they aren't structural. But, they screw into a metal frame. All I can guess is that some of these screws being ridiculously torqued places uneven force on the panel and causes bright spots.

It worked for me, so if you're handy with a screwdriver and having brightness uniformity issues it could be worth a shot.
post #88 of 515
What is everyone using for a 3D source?
I have a PS3 but my Integra DHC-80.1 is HDMI 1.3 so I ordered the Oppo BDP-93 for it's 2 HDMI outs.
post #89 of 515
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Originally Posted by TheMoose View Post

What is everyone using for a 3D source?
I have a PS3 but my Integra DHC-80.1 is HDMI 1.3 so I ordered the Oppo BDP-93 for it's 2 HDMI outs.

I'm interested as well. I'm using an HTPC right now, but I don't have the 3D version of PowerDVD so I'm on the fence about buying a stand alone player vs upgrading PDVD.
post #90 of 515
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Originally Posted by c.kingsley View Post
I tinkered with the back cover of the TV and adjusted tightness of the screws on the back of the set today. I'm happy to report that I have eliminated the worst offending brightness hot spot in the center-left of my screen. The uniformity is now acceptable for me.

***Attempt at your own Risk***

I took the entire back panel off and then reinstalled it. I tightened each screw until it stopped but I didn't torque them down (a few of them were really wrenched down). These screws are only there to hold the back panel in place, they aren't structural. But, they screw into a metal frame. All I can guess is that some of these screws being ridiculously torqued places uneven force on the panel and causes bright spots.

It worked for me, so if you're handy with a screwdriver and having brightness uniformity issues it could be worth a shot.
@ C.Kingsley

I had thought to do this as well...and I just may now that you've reported success. Great Idea! Glad you went through with it.

Just to provide a quick update on my Hot Spots and Screen uniformity...I will say that after a week of use they do seem to be getting less severe. I do believe this display may have a small break in period. I was unaware that LCD panels needed to be broken in. Can anyone comment on this?

Also, I'd really love some feedback with regard to 3D via PS3 playing WIPEOUT HD. When playing SuperStardust I don't see any Ghosting in the 3D image at all. However, when I play WIPEOUT HD in 3D I do notice quite a bit of 3D ghosting particularly when making track selections prior to race. The tracks are Ghosted badly. I believe this is likely to do with the coding in the game as I know 3D can be quite spectacular on this display. Any comments on this from you fellow AVS forum users? Does anyone else experience this same thing with Wipeout HD?
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