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Just picked up the new Insignia NS-BRDVD4 from Best Buy

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Just picked up the new Insignia NS-BRDVD4 from Best Buy and so far it seems to be a pretty decent value player for the money ($99 @ Best Buy). I also have the Insignia NS-BRDVD3 which has been working flawlessly for the past six months.

I know most are probably wondering how they compare so I'll give a quick review. I did a search and didn't see any mention of the new Insignia NS-BRDVD4 so forgive me in advance if it has already been discussed.

First the most noticeable difference is size. NS-BRDVD4 on top and the NS-BRDVD3 is on the bottom. NS-BRDVD4 is narrower, not as tall and not as deep.

(I apologize for the image quality, all I had handy was my iPhone.)



You can view the Insignia NS-BRDVD4 manual here.

Gone are the silver feet that gave the NS-BRDVD3 a look of a piece of A/V equipment, for lack of a better term right now.

Also gone is the front panel LED information. Nothing but an LED that is red when in standby and blue when turned on. The logo doesn't light up and the panel doesn't scroll or display any information. Maybe a plus for some who don't want the distraction in their Home Theater.

The NS-BRDVD4 is very quiet compared to the NS-BRDVD3, almost silent. The NS-BRDVD4 starts up much faster than the NS-BRDVD3 and aquires a network connection every time without fail, something my NS-BRDVD3 had trouble with sometimes.

Setup was a breeze and the menus have been slightly improved over the NS-BRDVD3 but are very similar. My unit came with Netflix, Pandora and CinemaNow ready to go and only needed to be activated.

As soon as I connected to the internet I was informed on the screen that a firmware update was available and the update over my network went flawless requiring only a couple of clicks from me. After the update, everything still seems to work just as it did before.

I've tried a couple of Blu-rays and all loaded very quick and played without any problem at all. One thing I noticed was that my picture seemed a little crisper and the sound seemed a little richer. I thought maybe it was a placebo effect until my wife mentioned the same thing when she walked into the room and knew nothing of the new NS-BRDVD4.

I tried streaming some Netflix movies and they worked as good as I had hoped. No stuttering of loss of connection. Picture and sound were both very good. I haven't tried Pandora or CinemaNow yet but I may try the CinemaNow soon as there is a $5 coupon in the box to try a movie.

That's it for now, hope I answered any questions you may have had but feel free to ask if I didn't.

Later...
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Originally Posted by OhioLefty View Post

I tried streaming some Netflix movies and they worked as good as I had hoped.

Does it scale SD Netflix to 1080p? The older models didn't I believe and let the display to do the work.
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Does it scale SD Netflix to 1080p? The older models didn't I believe and let the display to do the work.

I think it still lets the display do the work. I have a Sharp 60" that does a really good with SD so the quality will most likely be different for others.

Edit: I just checked and it says the output for a Netflix SD movie is 1080p. So I guess I'm not really sure which is doing the work. Sorry.
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Any USB file playback capability? Old model could play xvid avi's and mkv's from a FAT32 thumb drive. It would be even better if they added divx and the ability to read NTFS drives.

And how is the remote response? Any better? Does the old remote work the new player?

TIA
post #5 of 122
Looks very similar in size and layout to the Magnavox from Walmart we have in the bedroom, which has performed flawlessly for months now. Just another basic but reliable player I'm sure.
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Originally Posted by OhioLefty View Post

I think it still lets the display do the work. I have a Sharp 60" that does a really good with SD so the quality will most likely be different for others.

Edit: I just checked and it says the output for a Netflix SD movie is 1080p. So I guess I'm not really sure which is doing the work. Sorry.

I had the wireless version for a while and I think it was scaling to 1280x720 and my display did the scaling from there. The image wasn't as nice as other streamers or players that did the scaling to 1080p so I guess my display's scaling isn't all that great.

Regarding the remote it appears to be the remote itself as when I used my Harmony the player responded like most devices.

I think the player is the same as the Vizio models. At least with the previous models their rear connections were almost identical. I presume they are coming out with a new wireless version as well since the current model is priced for clearance.
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Originally Posted by mdavej View Post

Any USB file playback capability? Old model could play xvid avi's and mkv's from a FAT32 thumb drive. It would be even better if they added divx and the ability to read NTFS drives.

And how is the remote response? Any better? Does the old remote work the new player?

TIA

Haven't tried USB playback or hard drive playback, but I'll give it a try when I get time.

I haven't tried the remote yet but my Harmony remote controls everything without having to reprogram it. So I guess to answer your question, yes the old remote should work with the NS-BRDVD4.
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I presume they are coming out with a new wireless version as well since the current model is priced for clearance.

The Quick Setup Guide on the website mentions the new NS-WBRDVD2.
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Does the BRDVD4 play 720p/1080p x264 .mkv's? If so, does it output the audio DTS/DD bitstream via SPDIF?

Will UDF only data DVD's be an issue vs ISO+UDF filesystem?

Will it output 480i over HDMI for DVD's and other sources? (Useful for external scalers)
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Does the BRDVD4 play 720p/1080p x264 .mkv's? If so, does it output the audio DTS/DD bitstream via SPDIF?

Will UDF only data DVD's be an issue vs ISO+UDF filesystem?

Will it output 480i over HDMI for DVD's and other sources? (Useful for external scalers)

Sorry, don't have any of these to try.
post #11 of 122
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Will it output 480i over HDMI for DVD's and other sources? (Useful for external scalers)

According to the manual it has the same options as the BRDVD3 which will output 480i. However, you have to change this setting manually whenever you play a DVD. If you used component output instead, it would automatically play all DVD's at 480i. You could also use a universal remote to write a macro to change this setting with one button press. This player does not have "direct" mode like some older sony's to pass thru the disc's native resolution, if that's what you're asking.

Like the BRDVD3 manual, this manual also states it plays .wmv, .avi, .mp4 and .mpeg files as well as ISO, UDF and UDF bridge formats. Both manuals also state they won't play xvid, but we know from experience this is not true for the BRDVD3. I hope it isn't true for the BRDVD4 either.

Thanks for all your feedback so far, OhioLefty. I'm disappointed that they didn't change the remote codes. That could have meant compatibility with more universals. But at least harmony and most one-for-all's still work.

Can't wait to see these start showing up on cowboom. I could use the rack space and less noise. I think I'll gut one of my $30 BRDVD3's with a bad HDMI port and put the Blu-ray drive in my HTPC.
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Can't wait to see these start showing up on cowboom. I could use the rack space and less noise. I think I'll gut one of my $30 BRDVD3's with a bad HDMI port and put the Blu-ray drive in my HTPC.

The BRDVD3 uses a standard PC SATA BluRay drive?
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The BRDVD3 uses a standard PC SATA BluRay drive?

As far as I can tell (LINK). It's exactly the same drive as in the OPPO BDP-83
post #14 of 122
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Originally Posted by mdavej View Post

According to the manual it has the same options as the BRDVD3 which will output 480i. However, you have to change this setting manually whenever you play a DVD. If you used component output instead, it would automatically play all DVD's at 480i. You could also use a universal remote to write a macro to change this setting with one button press. This player does not have "direct" mode like some older sony's to pass thru the disc's native resolution, if that's what you're asking.

Like the BRDVD3 manual, this manual also states it plays .wmv, .avi, .mp4 and .mpeg files as well as ISO, UDF and UDF bridge formats. Both manuals also state they won't play xvid, but we know from experience this is not true for the BRDVD3. I hope it isn't true for the BRDVD4 either.



Can't wait to see these start showing up on cowboom. I could use the rack space and less noise. I think I'll gut one of my $30 BRDVD3's with a bad HDMI port and put the Blu-ray drive in my HTPC.

Will not work in a PC, tried it.
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Originally Posted by gmanhdtv View Post

Will not work in a PC, tried it.

Probably a custom firmware on the drive controller.
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Originally Posted by gmanhdtv View Post

Will not work in a PC, tried it.

Shoot. Thanks for the info.
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Does it play Hulu?
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^^ No Hulu on the Insignias.
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No
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Thanks for the review, I have been waiting to read one since I saw this appear on the BB website. One big question, if I may ask; how does it compare to the BRDVD3 when playing DVDs? My only extended experience with a Blu Ray player was a Samsung BD-C5500, and DVD playback was, in my opinion, poor no matter what I tried.

Thanks!
DW
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Originally Posted by scum1 View Post

Does it play Hulu?

Hulu isn't licensed for TV devices and with Hulu Plus ($10 per month) currently except in rare cases you won't find anything you want to watch. At least that was my experience. However the image was far superior compared to Netflix.
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Originally Posted by dbwells70 View Post

Thanks for the review, I have been waiting to read one since I saw this appear on the BB website. One big question, if I may ask; how does it compare to the BRDVD3 when playing DVDs? My only extended experience with a Blu Ray player was a Samsung BD-C5500, and DVD playback was, in my opinion, poor no matter what I tried.

Thanks!
DW

I think it does a pretty good job with DVDs. Maybe not the quality some may say is near HD, but it is very respectable given the price tag.
post #23 of 122
Bought one of these today and been playing with it for about an hour. Everything has worked well, including the cat5 FW update. BD & DVD play just fine and reasonably quickly.

Ran into problems playing downloaded .avi files. Some play well and some display "Filename.avi: File Format Not Supported!" Check with VLC they all claim to be MPEG-4/DivX. Since I'm not a video codec/format expert, that's about the extent of my video toolbox. If someone will suggest other tools, I'll load 'em up and give them a try to discover what the difference is between the files that play and the ones that don't. Not sure what's up because the files play on the computer and my "old" Oppo 970 HD univeral DVD player.

Better hurry though, because one of the main reasons I bought it was to watch these files, so it's likely going back to the store unless there is a quick conversion tool I can run to make these files play.

Styln
post #24 of 122
Insignias won't play divx. They will do xvid though.
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Insignias won't play divx. They will do xvid though.

Thanks. Can you recommend a low cost BD player that plays them both and has Netflix. Or recommend a site where I can research the the options.

Appreciated,

Styln
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Thanks. Can you recommend a low cost BD player that plays them both and has Netflix. Or recommend a site where I can research the the options.

Appreciated,

Styln

http://winstonsreviews.com/

This is a good one

Styln
post #27 of 122
Returned the player because it only did 2 of the 3 things I needed:

1) Netflix
2) DivX
3) XVid

To bad, it was very close to what I needed. While at BB, I asked if they had a player that did all three of these things. Beyond Netflix, no one there had a clue. Worse, I had both types of files on a USB drive, but they didn't have any of their BD players hooked up. Guess I just keep waiting...

Styln
post #28 of 122
Does anyone know if this unit supports DLNA? No front display? Is this a problem?
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Does the BRDVD4 have a Netflix keyword search feature?
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Does the BRDVD4 have a Netflix keyword search feature?

No, it does not.
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