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post #61 of 122
Very cool - thank you for the informative response. I'll give that a try.
post #62 of 122
Is anyone having problems ewith their BRDVD4s this week? I haven't been able to stream Netflix since Thursday. The app loads, gets to the red 'getting titles' screen and just stays there. I called NF Friday, and the customer service rep told me to call my ISP and give them a web address and see if they could make a direct connection to the NF servers, but it was after 5pm and I have to wait til Monday.
Pandora and Cinemanow work, can stream from them so I doubt there's a problem with the modem. Solutions offered at the Insignia forum haven't worked (rolling back the firmware to the Aug version).
post #63 of 122
OK, so I've read through this thread and I've spotted clear positives regarding price, Netflix, FAT-32 USB ISO files, and region-free prior to 2011 FW updates. What are the cons relative to other players? Sound? Video? Reliability with latest FW?
post #64 of 122
Thanks to all for the info on the hack. Worked perfectly. Unfortunately, the BR I got from Europe looks like a pile of poo. No better then the DVD version.

Oh well.
post #65 of 122
Two questions please

Who makes Insignia?

How does it compare to other players on the market -- both performance and reliability?
post #66 of 122
the remote control is a dead ringer for a Samsung, so that would be my guess for the manufacturer. As to the rest, I bought it for only the above mentioned reason, and PQ is fine. I prefer the operation of my old Sony, but that may be just what I'm used to.
post #67 of 122
Thanks dude, glad to get a response -- beginning to wonder, if you know what I mean !

I read a number of "reviews" on the Best Buy site, but it's hard to get a bead on a product where most purchasers have minimal experience with the product, format, and competition . I currently have Samsung BD-P1000 and Pioneer BDP-51FD, and so I'm hoping the Insignia isn't too far behind with its HDMI output. In any case, I placed an order for a used player from Cowboom.com and am expecting delivery Friday. Here's hoping!
post #68 of 122
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Originally Posted by cubfanbob View Post

From reading this thread I know that the February firmware update [Version 27] will disable the Region-Free process. My player is currently on Version 9

How do you check what firmware version your player has?

Thanks,

R
post #69 of 122
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Originally Posted by Razvanel View Post

How do you check what firmware version your player has?

Thanks,

R

When attempting a manual firmware update, you d/l the firmware to a USB drive, turn off the player, insert the drive, and then power on the player. As the firmware file is detected on the drive, it shows you the current version, and the update version on a menu window.

I can't remember whether updating thru the player shows you this step or not.
post #70 of 122
Thank you
post #71 of 122
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Originally Posted by Westly-C View Post

I can't remember whether updating thru the player shows you this step or not.

It does not.
post #72 of 122
My BRDVD4 is supposed to arrive tomorrow. Given the next-to-no response I've received to questions on this thread, I guess I'm not expecting a lot, but here's hoping for a pleasant surprise -- my fingers are crossed.
post #73 of 122
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Originally Posted by TrevorS View Post

My BRDVD4 is supposed to arrive tomorrow. Given the next-to-no response I've received to questions on this thread, I guess I'm not expecting a lot, but here's hoping for a pleasant surprise -- my fingers are crossed.

Wish I could offer comparisons vis a vis other blu ray players. The BRDVD3 was my first br player, but I don't have it connected to an HD tv. I liked the dvd3 enough to get a refurb dvd4 (also from Cowboom) for another room, also connected to SD tv. Got them mostly as NF streamers. On SD tv, the picture quality of dvds and NF streams look good, so I would image it will produce pleasing images for blu ray discs and HD Netflix streams thru HD HMDI.
post #74 of 122
I needed a Blu-Ray player to set up Netflix streaming for my parents, and my two "budget" options were this Insignia or the Samsumg 5500. The Insignia went on sale for $69 at Best Buy (compared to $119 for the Samsung), so I snatched it up.

I'm really regretting not spending the extra cash on the Samsung. The BRDVD4's menus are displayed in such a tiny font that they're almost impossible to read on a 32" CRT. The drive is indeed very noisy, and playing avi files requires you to manually set the aspect ratio for every single movie. Every other DVD player I've used (including $30 Philips units) does this automatically.

Is there a firmware upgrade (or downgrade) that will fix any of these issues?
post #75 of 122
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Originally Posted by TrevorS View Post

My BRDVD4 is supposed to arrive tomorrow. Given the next-to-no response I've received to questions on this thread, I guess I'm not expecting a lot, but here's hoping for a pleasant surprise -- my fingers are crossed.

Well, have you tested it out yet? What are your thoughts?
post #76 of 122
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Originally Posted by Westly-C View Post

Wish I could offer comparisons vis a vis other blu ray players. The BRDVD3 was my first br player, but I don't have it connected to an HD tv. I liked the dvd3 enough to get a refurb dvd4 (also from Cowboom) for another room, also connected to SD tv. Got them mostly as NF streamers. On SD tv, the picture quality of dvds and NF streams look good, so I would image it will produce pleasing images for blu ray discs and HD Netflix streams thru HD HMDI.

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Originally Posted by Westly-C View Post

Well, have you tested it out yet? What are your thoughts?

Thanks for the input and sorry for the delay, UPS changed their delivery date Friday and the player finally arrived late Monday afternoon. Since Cowboom didn't ship it inside another box, I was surprised to see it made it coast-to-coast from CA with no damage to the product box. The only thing visibly amiss was what looked like an ugly scrape at the top center front panel, but was actually a greasy clump of God-knows-what. After cleaning it off, the player looks entirely new, including the remote. As mentioned, the remote control is virtually identical to the one for my Samsung BD-P1000 -- wonder if there's a Samsung badged player around that's a near twin of the IN-BRDVD4.

I connected it via HDMI to a 37" LCD TV and it appears to work just fine. The only noise I notice is when it loads a disc, the rest of the time it seems pretty quiet -- no problem for such an inexpensive player IMO. Speaking of loading, it seems much quicker than the BD-P1000. I've go to see how it compares loading the "Pirates of the Caribbean" BDs. I watched and listened to it with "Miami Vice" BD last night and had no complaints. The next thing I want to do is update it to the 20101015 firmware, I'm guessing it has whichever firmware was current when it was manufactured last August. In any case, as of first blush, I'm liking it.
post #77 of 122
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Originally Posted by TrevorS View Post

I connected it via HDMI to a 37" LCD TV and it appears to work just fine. The only noise I notice is when it loads a disc, the rest of the time it seems pretty quiet -- no problem for such an inexpensive player IMO. Speaking of loading, it seems much quicker than the BD-P1000. I've go to see how it compares loading the "Pirates of the Caribbean" BDs. I watched and listened to it with "Miami Vice" BD last night and had no complaints. The next thing I want to do is update it to the 20101015 firmware, I'm guessing it has whichever firmware was current when it was manufactured last August. In any case, as of first blush, I'm liking it.

I just used a CD ISO to update the firmware from
PKG_DVD_3_1_024_RC_09_BestBuy to
PKG_DVD_3_2_022_RC_21_BestBuy

Only took some 3-1/2 minutes for it to load the file, pretty quick to me. Unfortunately, I then hit a misbehavior that wasn't apparent with the original firmware. When the player powers up, it now generates a putting sound via HDMI that is easily audible through the TV's speakers. This sound continues until a BD or DVD is loaded and the play indicator at the screen top right appears, it then becomes quiet. The sound doesn't return until the player is again power cycled (opening and closing the drawer doesn't trigger it). I tried changing the player menu audio options, but didn't find anything that made a difference. Anybody else encounter this issue with the 20101015 firmware?

Moving on, I loaded POTC: Dead Man's Chest into the BRDVD4 and observed how long it took to complete loading (Disney logo). Then I did the same thing with the BD-P1000 and the BRDVD4 beat the pants off it, much quicker. However, regarding sound, there's a definite difference in bass weight between the two, the Samsung delivering easily greater bass content via HDMI than the Insignia. The Pioneer 51FD is in a different room so I haven't made that audio comparison, but from experience, the Insignia is again quicker to load. As far as picture quality with "Miami Vice" and POTC: DMC, I'm not sure either player has an advantage over the other. Both look awfully good, though I do know the 51FD has the edge over the BD-P1000.

So, I'm looking forward to hearing what others have to say, and would especially appreciate any input regarding the putting sound I mentioned.

Thanks -- Trevor !
post #78 of 122
Just took another crack at the putting sound problem with HDMI (I don't know whether it also shows up on the RCA audio outputs). First, given I updated the firmware last night, I left the player unplugged over night. I tried it again today and the putting sound was still there and behaved as before. I then used the "system" "set factory defaults" menu option to force all menu initial settings to legitimate values. I then power cycled, but no change. I again unplugged the unit for a couple minutes and retried -- again no change.

So, it appears to me a firmware error in this release causes some audio related function to not be initialized properly until the screen play indicator (top right corner) is displayed following player power up. I know others of you are running your BRDVD4 with this same release (reportedly the last release before the multi-region capability disappears). I'd really appreciate it if you could check your players to see if you have a similar issue. If you don't, that implies my problem is actually associated with a hardware defect, despite it not showing up until I installed this firmware. Please lend a helping hand guys!
post #79 of 122
[Sam Beckett]... Oh boy! [/Sam Beckett]

You've already done the unplugging routine, but try it again with this slight change..

At the Insignia forum during the difficulty with the Netflix app after the firmware update, the mods suggested restore to factory default, then power off, unplug for several minutes (longer if possible), and then power on and retry updating f/w. It worked for some, others, it didn't. If you can, reset to factory default and deactivate all connected applications tonight, then power off and unplug overnight. Before powering off, you may want to remove the HDMI cable from the player too. It might make a difference, can't guarantee it. Also check again the audio setting, cycling thru the various options if you haven't tried already.

Should the noise not return when you turn it on Thursday, frankly, just ignore the notice to update the firmware. It played alright without it, so don't even bother fooling with it. It's a nice player when it works, but these firmware updates can be nerve racking.
post #80 of 122
Since the firmware name references Best Buy, does anyone know if there are other resellers branded firmware that work with this player? I know my first BD player, an OLEVIA, could use the firmware versions released by other brands, like Memorex and Element.
post #81 of 122
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Originally Posted by Westly-C View Post

[Sam Beckett]... Oh boy! [/Sam Beckett]

You've already done the unplugging routine, but try it again with this slight change..

At the Insignia forum during the difficulty with the Netflix app after the firmware update, the mods suggested restore to factory default, then power off, unplug for several minutes (longer if possible), and then power on and retry updating f/w. It worked for some, others, it didn't. If you can, reset to factory default and deactivate all connected applications tonight, then power off and unplug overnight. Before powering off, you may want to remove the HDMI cable from the player too. It might make a difference, can't guarantee it. Also check again the audio setting, cycling thru the various options if you haven't tried already.

Should the noise not return when you turn it on Thursday, frankly, just ignore the notice to update the firmware. It played alright without it, so don't even bother fooling with it. It's a nice player when it works, but these firmware updates can be nerve racking.

Thanks for that, unfortunately, instead of making progress with the player, I've ended up wasting the evening hours wrestling with my damnable PC virus protection ! Funny, I though computers were supposed to make life better? Seems like instead, they provide brand new problems with especially high difficulty of resolution .
post #82 of 122
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Originally Posted by dvdchance View Post

Since the firmware name references Best Buy, does anyone know if there are other resellers branded firmware that work with this player? I know my first BD player, an OLEVIA, could use the firmware versions released by other brands, like Memorex and Element.

There are no reports of anyone loading a non-Insignia firmware.
post #83 of 122
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Originally Posted by TrevorS View Post

...Unfortunately, I then hit a misbehavior that wasn't apparent with the original firmware...

You can reload the old firmware, if you can find it somewhere. When these things first came out I used to keep all the firmware versions since I had to go back often.
post #84 of 122
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Originally Posted by Westly-C View Post

[Sam Beckett]... Oh boy! [/Sam Beckett]

You've already done the unplugging routine, but try it again with this slight change..

At the Insignia forum during the difficulty with the Netflix app after the firmware update, the mods suggested restore to factory default, then power off, unplug for several minutes (longer if possible), and then power on and retry updating f/w. It worked for some, others, it didn't. If you can, reset to factory default and deactivate all connected applications tonight, then power off and unplug overnight. Before powering off, you may want to remove the HDMI cable from the player too. It might make a difference, can't guarantee it. Also check again the audio setting, cycling thru the various options if you haven't tried already.

Should the noise not return when you turn it on Thursday, frankly, just ignore the notice to update the firmware. It played alright without it, so don't even bother fooling with it. It's a nice player when it works, but these firmware updates can be nerve racking.

Thanks for the ideas ! I forced factory defaults (they actually work for me a is -- no network connection, no USB) and left it unplugged Thursday night. Just re-powered it a few minutes a go and reinstalled the software and listened to the putting the whole time. After removing the disc it power cycled itself and the putting was still there . I power cycled it myself and then went through the audio options with more power cycles between them. Unfortunately, no change -- still comes across as a player initialization firmware error to me.
post #85 of 122
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Originally Posted by mdavej View Post

You can reload the old firmware, if you can find it somewhere. When these things first came out I used to keep all the firmware versions since I had to go back often.

Oh, really! The ability to move to previous versions of firmware seems rare these days. If anybody has the previous version to the one I just installed, I'd love to get my hands on it. I only found two on the Insignia website, the current and the previous. I downloaded both, but installed the earlier version in order to preserve all-region capability.

So, if I installed the region lock version (current version), I'd be able to backup afterward -- that is correct right?
post #86 of 122
^^I can't find the August firmware at the Insignis forum. It was in a link in one of the threads and not on the Support page for the player. The last suggestion I can offer would be to try loading the Dec 2010 firmware, this time on a usb drive rather than a cd. If that doesn't solve the problem contact Cowboom Monday and arrange for a replacement. I've had good dealings with them so it shouldn't be a problem for them to exchange it for another.
Sorry you've run into this strange issue, I know some would be put off the brand after going through all this, but for the price, a working unit is well worth it.
post #87 of 122
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Originally Posted by TrevorS View Post

... if I installed the region lock version (current version), I'd be able to backup afterward -- that is correct right?

I don't quite follow. But if you're asking if you can region unlock on one firmware, then load another firmware and have the region unlock stick, then the answer is no.

I've never seen another brand that would let you load an old firmware either. Insignia is the only one I know of. I imagine this capability is there by mistake. I could see some settings getting really messed up if they move any addresses around. But nothing bad like that has happened yet.
post #88 of 122
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Originally Posted by Westly-C View Post

^^I can't find the August firmware at the Insignis forum. It was in a link in one of the threads and not on the Support page for the player. The last suggestion I can offer would be to try loading the Dec 2010 firmware, this time on a usb drive rather than a cd. If that doesn't solve the problem contact Cowboom Monday and arrange for a replacement. I've had good dealings with them so it shouldn't be a problem for them to exchange it for another.
Sorry you've run into this strange issue, I know some would be put off the brand after going through all this, but for the price, a working unit is well worth it.

I posted the problem on the Insignia community forum and have had no response. I found two versions of firmware available on the support site. My understanding is the older of the two is the one you are referring to. That's the one I currently have installed, the older of the two available at the support site.

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Originally Posted by mdavej View Post

I don't quite follow. But if you're asking if you can region unlock on one firmware, then load another firmware and have the region unlock stick, then the answer is no.

I've never seen another brand that would let you load an old firmware either. Insignia is the only one I know of. I imagine this capability is there by mistake. I could see some settings getting really messed up if they move any addresses around. But nothing bad like that has happened yet.

I was just trying to make certain there was no fundamental shift with the latest release that would prevent backing up to the one I currently have loaded. No, I wouldn't expect features to survive reloading the firmware. I was just wondering if installing the latest and then returning to the previous might help my issue -- though I consider it a long shot. I'm satisfied there are no errors in the ISO read itself, if there were, the error detection should pick it up and I recorded it at slowest speed.

Something that really strikes me is that not one person has said they have this firmware version installed and they definitely do not have this specific problem.

http://community.insigniaproducts.co...rev/td-p/29062
post #89 of 122
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Originally Posted by TrevorS View Post
I found two versions of firmware available on the support site. My understanding is the older of the two is the one you are referring to. That's the one I currently have installed.
Just went to the support site again and they have a "Current" February firmware release that downloads a file named 20110110_BBY_NSBRDVD4_BBY_B083_32028_27.iso and a "Previous" December release that downloads 20101015_NSBRDVD4_BBY_B083_022_21.iso. That second one is the one I've got installed. Looks like their firmware public release date is about a month and a half after the final build date. So, my currently installed firmware is in fact December's despite the date code indicating mid October.

Here's the site: http://insigniaproducts.com/products...NS-BRDVD4.html
post #90 of 122
So have you tried the latest firmware (20110110_...)? I would imagine almost no one is running older firmware like you because of the nag screen you get if your firmware is out of date.
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