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Sharp xv-z17000 : New dlp full hd 3d projector

post #1 of 551
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SHARP is coming back in home theater videoprojection and in 3D :

http://www.cinetson.org/phpBB3/proje...10-t32374.html
post #2 of 551
cool unit!

it doesnt look very big, it just put in some dark box.

23db on eco mode sounds to good to be true.

sharp is back?

price?
post #3 of 551
Thread Starter 
No price range for the moment sorry
post #4 of 551
Looks like lamp based? Don't know, I'm thinking new Single-Chip DLP machines should be LED these days...
post #5 of 551
I heard rumors about this. From the picture, it doesn't look like a "real" Sharp: the dual Iris ones that many here remember so fondly.
post #6 of 551
Are the replacement bulbs $600+ for this one too? The bulbs for the XV-Z15000 are ridiculously expensive. It looks like the same chassis. Probably just the old model, but with 3D. I wonder what other improvements we can expect.
post #7 of 551
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Originally Posted by Mendo View Post

Are the replacement bulbs $600+ for this one too? The bulbs for the XV-Z15000 are ridiculously expensive. It looks like the same chassis. Probably just the old model, but with 3D. I wonder what other improvements we can expect.

It has to be brighter in order to handle 3D...that's for sure...

I wonder if they fixed the focus uniformity many reviewers talked about?

But yeah, $600+ for a 3,000 hrs bulb in eco mode is ridiculous.
post #8 of 551
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Originally Posted by Mendo View Post

Are the replacement bulbs $600+ for this one too? The bulbs for the XV-Z15000 are ridiculously expensive. It looks like the same chassis. Probably just the old model, but with 3D. I wonder what other improvements we can expect.

Hi,

it seems it the case :

http://www.heise.de/newsticker/meldu...r-1071487.html

http://translate.google.com/translat...r-1071487.html



Two DVI ?

post #9 of 551
It looks OEM.
post #10 of 551
The way Sharp keeps the numbering on these projectors below 20000 (the Z20000 was the last real Sharp) makes me hope that Sharp has plans for a real return to the projector market . . .
post #11 of 551
Not going to happen.
post #12 of 551
It looks sleek, though the WAY offset lens makes installation quirky.
post #13 of 551
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Originally Posted by Lawguy View Post

I heard rumors about this. From the picture, it doesn't look like a "real" Sharp: the dual Iris ones that many here remember so fondly.

For what I have seen for the moment at the IFA BERLIN, all the 3D démonstrations , don't look very sharp
post #14 of 551
Bad joke alert.
post #15 of 551
Hi,

but it's a real sharp,

same box as the XV-Z15000 :



http://www.aboutprojectors.com/pdf/s...5000-specs.pdf
post #16 of 551
Thread Starter 


We talk about the XV-Z17000 here, it's better too have the unit specifications, better then those from the 2D projector.
post #17 of 551
So that's 1600 lumens, 30K:1, and 0.65" DMD? If so, it's just a 3D XV-Z15000, identical contrast and more importantly no added brightness.
post #18 of 551
Here is some more info on this sharp projector

http://www.projectorreviews.com/blog...edia/#more-869
post #19 of 551
Not getting much from the above link.
post #20 of 551
love how it says hdmi in the front but no hdmi ports in the back. lol
post #21 of 551
http://www.ipk-club.com/bbs/viewthre...rom=indexheats

That thread said the listed price is around $3.5k which I think street may be just below $3k.

Now that I have just been spoiled by my new Optoma GT720 720p DLP 3D projector for 3 weeks, I must buy a new 1080p DLP 3D projector again in a month or 2!!! This is NOT funny!!!

Anyway, bring it on!!!!!

regards,

Li On

PS: well... those jumped on Sony and JVC may need to jump again soon! LOL!
post #22 of 551
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Originally Posted by Li On View Post

http://www.ipk-club.com/bbs/viewthre...rom=indexheats

That thread said the listed price is around $3.5k which I think street may be just below $3k.

Now that I have just been spoiled by my new Optoma GT720 720p DLP 3D projector for 3 weeks, I must buy a new 1080p DLP 3D projector again in a month or 2!!! This is NOT funny!!!

Anyway, bring it on!!!!!


regards,

Li On

PS: well... those jumped on Sony and JVC may need to jump again soon! LOL!

If they plan to sale any in the U.S., the price better be much lower than 3K. You can get the JVC RS40 around that price range. I wouldn't even consider the Sharp unless it was at or below 2K.
post #23 of 551
I thought some swear that a $500 Acer 720p DLP looks better than the Sony/JVC for 3D content. Assuming this new 1080p DLP should perform even much better than a 720p DLP, then I think many will be interested on this model.

regards,

Li On
post #24 of 551
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If they plan to sale any in the U.S., the price better be much lower than 3K. You can get the JVC RS40 around that price range. I wouldn't even consider the Sharp unless it was at or below 2K.

I am currently an RS-35 owner, but if I wanted to buy a new projector (which I don't right now), I would certainly give the Sharp strong consideration even at the same price or a little more than the RS-40. This is based on my experience owning a Sharp 20k, a projector which in some ways was better than my current RS-35.

BTW, guys, please...NO STREET PRICES...MSRP only. So, in this case, we are comparing the $4495 RS-40 to the ~$3500 Sharp....
post #25 of 551
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Originally Posted by Bob Sorel View Post

I am currently an RS-35 owner, but if I wanted to buy a new projector (which I don't right now), I would certainly give the Sharp strong consideration even at the same price or a little more than the RS-40. This is based on my experience owning a Sharp 20k, a projector which in some ways was better than my current RS-35.

BTW, guys, please...NO STREET PRICES...MSRP only. So, in this case, we are comparing the $4495 RS-40 to the ~$3500 Sharp....

I wouldn't say that this Sharp projector is of the same lineage as the 20k. This one definitely looks like an OEM. No dual Iris, no minolta lens, you get the picture . . .
post #26 of 551
It looks like and I suspect is a cheap business class projector modified to take and display a 3D input. Cheap lens, lots of lumens, lowish on off, cable inputs in front yada yada.
post #27 of 551
Well then I guess a Sharp isn't a Sharp any more. Oh well, too bad...I liked the old Sharps quite a bit.
post #28 of 551
There are a bunch of us waiting on a 3D 1080p projector. However cheaply they do it, being the first to market is smart, unless it really sucks. Too bad someone didn't get one out before Christmas. I ended up getting a Acer 5360 720P 3D projector. I think a lot of others did too. A hdmi 1.4 chip is like 10 bucks. Too bad someone like BenQ didn't add one to their W1000 projector. Sell it for 20 bucks more than the non-3D version and there would be a ton of them sitting under Christmas trees right now.
Warren.
post #29 of 551
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Originally Posted by wnielsenbb View Post

There are a bunch of us waiting on a 3D 1080p projector. However cheaply they do it, being the first to market is smart, unless it really sucks. Too bad someone didn't get one out before Christmas. I ended up getting a Acer 5360 720P 3D projector. I think a lot of others did too. A hdmi 1.4 chip is like 10 bucks. Too bad someone like BenQ didn't add one to their W1000 projector. Sell it for 20 bucks more than the non-3D version and there would be a ton of them sitting under Christmas trees right now.
Warren.

I bought an Acer as well and I'm really enjoying it while waiting for a 1080p 3D projector. The 720p 3D DLPs don't seem to show any "ghosting" at all, so I'm a little nervous about the SXRD and D-ILA ones, especially since some owners say they have to wait 1/2 hour so the pj can warm up. The warmup time apparently decreases cross-talk. The other thing that bothers me is that D-ILA apparently loses 1/2 its contrast in 3D mode! The Acer ( and I would guess the other 720p 3D DLPs) seems to have much better contrast in 3D mode with glasses than it does in 2D mode. There has also been some negative talk about 1080p 3D DLP projectors - triple rainbow?

I think things will get much better for 3D in a year or so. With the 720p 3D DLP working much better than I ever dreamed it could I'm happy to wait.
post #30 of 551
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Originally Posted by Lawguy View Post

I wouldn't say that this Sharp projector is of the same lineage as the 20k. This one definitely looks like an OEM. No dual Iris, no minolta lens, you get the picture . . .

I talked to one of Sharp's representatives at CEDIA and he said that they would like to get back to a higher end projector with lens shift and things along with 3D. I think he may have even said LED. I mentioned that it would be nice to have the dual iris option for dimming down for 2D with higher on/off CR and opening things up for 3D. With LEDs the dynamic iris kind of thing could be done with the LEDs even while the irises stay shut down for highest on/off CR.

While I think the large majority would take the RS40 over the XV-Z17000 for 2D, even at the same price I think there is a good part of the market that would take the XV-Z17000 over the RS40 for the 3D, since DLP has at least one inherent advantage for 3D (the lack of ghosting others have mentioned). Although I do think JVC putting 3D at the price point they did put pricing pressure on Sharp and it would be hard for them to do very well at the $5k price point that another Sharp representative mentioned as a possibility. That would have been about a $3k premium (and 150%) for 3D and I think JVC largely killed the chances of other manufacturers getting 3D premiums like that when it could be argued that the premium from JVC is $500 or less (the RS15 was $5500 MSRP and the RS40 is $4500 MSRP).

--Darin
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