The "Official" Denon AVR-4311CI/AVR-A100 thread [NO PRICE TALK] - Page 40

No, I repeat NO consumer grade surge suppressor, power conditioner, etc. is going to protect against a lightning strike. Just NOT going to happen...

At least you got money back... When our basement decided to flood after 40 years, we lost about $25,000. Insurance company didn't cover "items" in a flood.


Pretty much.. if it's a direct hit, you are screwed. Every consumer grade surge protector/power conditioner is designed to only stop small surges (AKA you lose power, and then it flips back on causing a small surge).

That's why you need to make sure your hardware is covered under insurance, although most people will go through life and never experience a lightning strike.

Your best bet is to simply call all of the Authorized on-line e-tailers (although the one's that are discounting will obviously have backorders) as well as the authorized vendors in your local area.

Understood. Considering how close it was, I was certain to lose some equipment. It wasn't a direct hit, it was somewhere in the neighborhood, and my house appears to have taken the brunt of it. I would point out though, that the stuff hooked up to the H15 had by far the worst damage in the house.

In any event, sorry about your basement... sounds as though both of us have found insurance companies certainly only disclose information if it benefits them.

I'll check the local guys, but tax + lack of discount may be a deal breaker there. Will try ABT, WW Stereo etc. and see what happens.

not really a glowing review so far!

No. No its not. Being able to manually edit/tweak further (whatever that means exactly), but not being able to adjust trims or crossovers.

I am behind on this thread since I started from the beginning yesterday. This is a good point for all the Japan vs China assembly. It doesn't really mean that much now since if it is assembled in Japan, that is really all it is...box assembled which is the easy part of the process. Still most of the DSP. DACs, Video chips, etc will be from Taiwan and China and possibly Japan. These days everything comes from all over. What is probably more important is where the company is from and the type of quality standards they insist on during the supply chain process in which case I would give a bit more comfort to a Japanese company that does manufacturing in China then say a Chinese company that does manufacturing in China. From my experience, the Japan companies are very set on doing a lot of inspections and quality testing more then most.

If bought from a authorized dealer, the 4810 would have a two year warranty and not just one.

http://usa.denon.com/DocumentMaster/...NEW-July10.pdf

Looks to me like you need to setup the sub woofer settings on page 8 then run the calibration accordingly. After its done setup dynamic EQ, then run sub attenuation and eq

Maybe a step was missed or done out of order.

also page 64, it asks how many subwoofers you have and what to measure for, default might be 1.

Has anyone located the A100 product manual? A link would be appreciated. I sent Denon an email asking for a copy.

I don't want to start the DAC concerns again but I found a tech reference that states the A100 has 16 Burr Brown PCM1791A DAC's.

I'm not a technical guru but I hope more is better

Oh God,,,we are back to the DACS again...
I really hope mine shows up soon so I can stop reading this thread...

the way SubEQ HT works is the same as the default setup for the AS-EQ1 / SubEQ: first, both subs are pinged separately to set level and distance (time alignment). second, the subwoofers are measured and filtered as a summed unit.

According to Audyssey's research, this is the ideal way to handle dual subs. Level match, time align, and then EQ as a summed response.


really? 13 minutes after the previous post? you think I live here or something?

Hell yeah! Anytime I have a question about Denon you usually have the answer in 10 minutes or less. You are getting slow in your old age.
So, just so I understand it, it is handling the subs differently than the onkyo 3007, because it would only ping them as one sub even though there was two connected. Got it! Thanks, and try not to take so long next time!

Jmalto,

Thanks very much for your initial review. Would be interested in your views regarding the listening experiences in comparison with your previous kit. For DVD/Bluray and Music. Configured the way you like it - Flat curve, Audyssey Curve, DynEq On/OFF, or even no EQ.

Also, any views of XT32 improvement over XT. I guess its difficult to work out what changes are due to different Amp and what is different from Room EQ.

Cheers.

Wouldn't it have to ping each one individually at least for distances but the summing could be combined,no. Or how is it getting to 2 unique subs not located in same region of room?

Correct. It pings the subs individually the first time in order to time-align and level-match the subs. After that, both subs are pinged together.

Random thought about Jmalto's comment on the Audyssey turning off after a change, but how do you know?

For example, on my older 4306 if I change a setting the indicator light for Audyssey changes, but the program is still running, which is easily discernible via REW. I always found it a bit annoying that the Audyssey light was only green if I left it with the initial crossovers (especially as it was against the CTO of Audyssey's set up advice).

The red light made me think it was an error, or off, when I first got the unit, but it was just Denon's way of showing that a setting was changed.

Hey guys,

What does "HDMI SACD Support" mean?

It is listed as a feature on the 4311 that is not on the 3311...

Thanks!

Probably that the 4311 will be able to receive direct DSD from an SACD player and the 3311 can not, it has to come as PCM.

This feature usually for the purist that wants direct DSD to Analog conversions, which will usually mean no other DSP processing like Audyssey can be used.

^ Dubious feature if the player has better DAC(s) and the receiver has direct mode.

FWIW, the DenonLink4 with SACDs IMHO do sound better than using a player's DAC.

We tested this on a DL4 A1UD player and the A1 pre/pro. The A1UD supposedly has better DACs than the pre/pro

That is also tricky, one it takes more cables. How many SACD players do direct DSD to Analog through their own DACs and how do you know? For example, the Oppo BD83 can do direct DSD to Analog but if you connect a HDMI cable and the Oppo "sees" a Non-DSD source then it will convert to PCM before to goes to its internal DACs and out the analog.

I think it is very hard to figure out what is exactly going on from product to product without digging through 30 or 40 pages of forum posts.

This made me laugh out loud

There really are some anxious people on this thread - I love it!

Morning guys.. I brought the book with me to work so I will go over some things I had questions about last night and re-setup everything from scratch when I get home to see if I can work around some of the things I mentioned last night. I was rushed for time wanting to get everything setup before my son went to bed but fell short anyways I will compare my the Onkyo vs the Denon amp wise today as well. I sold my previous Onkyo NR3007 to a buddy at work so I will see if he will let me borrow it to do a comparison test but we'll see if this is needed after today.

For whomever asked if I set the receiver up for dual subs the answer is yes. The Denon pings both at the very beginning to level match and then does them together throughout the calibration process, exact same as the Onkyo NR3008 with XT32. Everything I setup before Audyssey was overwritten in the receiver but this is the same behavior on most of them, including the Onkyo's.

I will snap some pics of what Audyssey displays for each speaker after calibration graph-wise so you guys can see as well.

The more recent year models let you know when Audyssey is enabled with the words "Audyssey MultEQ" on the front panel display with a box around them. When a setting is changed (eg. crossovers), the box disappears to let you know that the original AUTO SETUP settings have been changed. The only change that "should" disengage Audyssey is if the speaker configuration (total present has increased) has changed.

Any new owners running 11.2 yet? (doubt it but it's worth a shot)

there are only 2 people here that even HAVE one, so I will guess not.

Your right, but I can tell you if I had this baby on order I'd have all the speaker positions selected, tested (not together in actual 11.x) and mounted....banana cables run....foot tapping waiting for the delivery. Because the wait would be unbearable and I'd need something "constructive" to keep me occupied.

tephra,

I wouldn't call it a review, but early impressions since he's only spent a few hours with it. Also, there could be a little of a learning curve for some of the functionality compared to the Onkyo he had. However, I do look forward to his continued communications since he and possibly one other person seems to have one in their possession on this forum.


Willie