The "Official" Denon AVR-4311CI/AVR-A100 thread [NO PRICE TALK] - Page 499

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and the msrp on the poa is?

you CAN do lots of things... whether or not it is prudent to do so is the issue...

So I've read on the Radiance thread....but short of really crappy transfers of 80's movies, VHS-quality video of say the BluRay of Dire Straits' Alchemy, and the odd SD content, it doesn't sound worth it until we get into the projector world. Not with a 2010 Panny G15, anyway. Oh well...time to lust after other HT improvements to SQ when I wear down the wife's resistance....

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yea, i'd say that's a good conclusion... unless you are going to use the cms and other goodies (for example, i use the vertical shift to move 2.35 ar movies "down", so i only have the one black bar on the top, as well as some of the zooming/masking options), it's probably just jewelry...

she'll give in eventually... even mountains eventually erode...

At work, I live in a world of prudent thought. This hobby is not always one of cold logic for me. This is why I sometimes clash with engineering logical posters. If he likes the POA and can pay for it, great. You are right though slapping a crazy expensive amp or amp section with a nice upper end AVR is a little hard for a fair comparison.

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i agree completely on the lack of cold logic when it comes to a/v... i know i've hit the "buy" button without any logical reason to do so...

and i have no issues with people buying whatever amp they want*, didn't mean to give that impression... it's their money... fwiw, i certainly wouldn't mind an avp/poa combination (upgraded)...

my comments were purely directed towards what a "new" 4311 might look like...

* assuming they actually need said amp, which gsr does, since his avp would be relatively worthless without one...

I've got a question for those using a URC remote with their 4311ci. My MX-5000 works really well, but when I got it in the Spring, the 4311 wasn't in the URC database. I had to use IP control to get certain important features (e.g. discreet control of HDMI output 1 vs. 2) so I used the 4310 setup (#071). For IR control I don't remember the model I used, but the URC setup numbers are #1274, #1275, #1276. Does anyone know what model these setup numbers correspond to, as I can't seem to find a matching model in the latest database?

Recently I noticed that the 4311 is in database now, so I tried switching to those, specifically #1324, #1325, #1326. These aren't working at all, the AVR does not respond. Can anyone clear up my confusion on how to control the 4311 with my URC? I'm using the old setup now, so it's not a big problem. But I would like IR control of some of the more advanced features (like HDMI output) which currently I can only do through the IP module.

Unfortunately I use serial, not IR. I use the 4810 database with a few modifications for certain commands. If you don't get an answer in a day or so, I should have time to do a quick program with my 980/msc-400 and see what works in the IR world.

John

Ok that was easier than I thought. Both the IR codes for the 4311 and 4810 work. I used "main 1" on the code list. I believe it was "1324" for the 4311 and "811" for the 4810.

So the codes work.....sounds like something is amiss with your remote programing. Are you using a RF station? Are you first testing the commands straight from CCP?

John

I was just listing things where Denon could be considering adding features. The amps in a 4311 class receiver obviously don't cost what the amps in the POA cost or give off as much heat, etc. It's up to Denon to decide if they could pull off putting 2 more amps into a chassis for the 4311 replacement. We've already been reading that the MSRP of the replacement is expected to be higher. We'll just have to wait and see what they actually deliver.

Ordered my 4311ci today at EE. I can't wait to join in with the fun. I think the sky is a bit bluer already

The good (or is it bad?) news is you live in Seaton country.

Chris

Congrats-best investment I've made in a while. Money well spent for me.

There is that....I've got two HSUs, but one day I have to check some Submersives for fun.

Stuart

How strange, I noticed the same thing.

Mine should arrive Tuesday or Wednesday.

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lol... another thing for me to talk you into...

I can help there . I've got a pair of Submersive HP's in my main system. They're VERY nice .

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me too... me likey my subm's... although mine aren't pretty, they were the truck liner black boxes.... in my ongoing quest to cut back/eliminate light reflection in here, i recently flocked them with protostar...

technically i didn't "need" the hp upgrade, but i "wanted" it, and mark made me a nice deal to upgrade the pair...

cool, another person to help me spend stuart's money...

Definitely LOL--at least until we move. I could fit two ULS-15s into our living room, and after calibrating, haven't completely declared war on our neighbors below us. But two Seaton Submersive HPs in a condo -- and I'm firmly in the dual sub camp -- strike me as a little....overwhelming.

Wouldn't you rather talk me into sacrificing living room furniture and our Moroccan wood entertainment center for a projector, an 80+" screen and fhe Radiance:-)????

Yup... I could not refuse the deal this time. Don't get at the egg though, can get authorized to match easily for the same price with full warranty. EE for sure.

Ordered one as well from ee, will be here Tuesday. I plan on running 11.2 In a dedicated theater .

So I am looking to upgrade my 3805. I am seriously consider the deal at newegg for the 4311. Question I have is do we expect to see either a new 43xx or even a new 48xx model soon?

Newegg is not an authorized Denon dealer, Denon refuses to honor their warranty as of now. You could get Electronics Expo to price match - read more posts in this forum.

Thanks for the heads up. So do we expect any updates to the 43xx or 48xx within the year?

I replaced my 3805 with a 4310, and the result (even comparing these units with their EQ off) is much cleaner sound. The 4311 is supposed to have even better amps than the 4310.

Based on what I have heard, features in 4311 will be available in some lower models and some higher ones this year. 4311 to my knowledge will not have a comparable 2012 successor model. Exactly why I ended up buying a 4311 back in October. If you like the 4311 features, you should go for it. Good luck with whatever you end up buying.

Yes. AFAIK, there will be a new model (4X13CI) announced this summer which will replace both the 4311CI and 4810CI with a fall release.

Anyone using NHT speakers with Denon 4311ci and do you like the sound. Was told that the Denon is a bright receiver and doesn't match will with NHT speakers. I'm asking the same question in the Anthem thread.

In my personal opinion, I doubt VERY MUCH the 4311 will give, even with "better amps" and Audyssey MultEQ XT 32, $1000 better audio than what the 4310 gives us compared to what we paid for the 4310. Remember, this is just my opinion and the single reason I can't justify "upgrading" to the 4311 as for me, the 4310 should be MORE THAN AMPLE for several years to come.

I agree with you, but I was responding to someone who wants to trade up from a 3805. Either the 4310 or 11 will better a 3805.

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