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post #17071 of 21934
5/7/12 at 8:12pm
Can I just say - Audyssey XT32 is the schnizzel! I never took it seriously before (although I never had XT32 or studied jdsmoothie's FAQ), but despite the fact that my eD sub is a POS my system sounds better than ever before - night and day difference, my wife could hear it from the kitchen, all that crap. Seriously, after tuning myself I thought things sounded pretty good, but afterwards the change blew me away.

Can't wait to get the new speakers and do it all again.

So far the 4311 has been the most fun, satisfying electronic purchase I've made in a long time. I'm kind of bummed that the tweaking will soon end and I'll leave it alone (or not).
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post #17072 of 21934
5/7/12 at 8:36pm
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There is no struggle, there is a single correct solution: You use external amps for zone 2. Period. Boom, you're done. Any other way is going to be an annoying kludge workaround.

You're telling me you'd rather deal with the hassle of changing an a/b speaker switch every time you want to use zone 2 than simply spending $50-$100 on a 2ch amp or stereo receiver? Or if you want a free solution, repurpose 2 channels of your 7ch amp for zone 2 and use the 4311 to power 4 surrounds & 2 heights.

The final option is to add 4 more amp channels to main zone and go full preamp mode, in which case you can repurpose 4 amps in the 4311 for zone 2/3.

So after deciding on buying another amp I hit another snag...AirPlay hijacks both the main zone and zone 2. I was planning on using AirPlay for outside content while still being able to have the main zone do my theatre. I guess now I have to invest in an apple tv or something and have it be another source?
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post #17073 of 21934
5/8/12 at 6:00am
Just confirming in case I read wrong, Airplay cannot stream video
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post #17074 of 21934
5/8/12 at 6:03am
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Just confirming in case I read wrong, Airplay cannot stream video

Only Apple products can support Airplay video.
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post #17075 of 21934
5/8/12 at 6:07am
^^^ When I had Boxee Box it used to support video
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post #17076 of 21934
5/8/12 at 6:09am
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Originally Posted by jdsmoothie View Post

^^
I'm trying to get that information from Denon now ... as well as if it's been discontinued.

Denon reports that sufficient quantities of the 4311CI will remain in inventory at least until the 4520CI is released in Sep.
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post #17077 of 21934
5/8/12 at 6:10am
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Originally Posted by michaelscott73 View Post

So after deciding on buying another amp I hit another snag...AirPlay hijacks both the main zone and zone 2. I was planning on using AirPlay for outside content while still being able to have the main zone do my theatre. I guess now I have to invest in an apple tv or something and have it be another source?

Correct. Although this issue has been resolved on the new XX13 models, for the 4311CI, you will need to buy either an ATV or Airport Express as an external source which then bypasses that limitation.
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post #17078 of 21934
5/8/12 at 6:24am
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Originally Posted by Gov View Post

^^^ When I had Boxee Box it used to support video

You are right, technically. However I understand this to be an "unlicensed" use of Airplay. In other words, if you want to advertised Airplay feature on your product, it is limited to audio only.
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post #17079 of 21934
5/8/12 at 6:29am
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Originally Posted by jdsmoothie View Post

Denon reports that sufficient quantities of the 4311CI will remain in inventory at least until the 4520CI is released in Sep.

That is encouraging news.
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post #17080 of 21934
5/8/12 at 7:02am
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Originally Posted by jdsmoothie View Post

Denon reports that sufficient quantities of the 4311CI will remain in inventory at least until the 4520CI is released in Sep.

Which sounds like the production may have ended, even though it is not a discontinued catalog item.
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post #17081 of 21934
5/8/12 at 7:05am
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Which sounds like the production may have ended, even though it is not a discontinued catalog item.

I agree, kind of like the AVP/POA/5308CI. The chipsets the AVP/5308CI uses are long out of production, so Denon must not mind sitting on a good bit of completed inventory. Same may apply to the 4810CI?

It is worth noting, all of these units are made in Denon's Japan factory. I imagine the Inkel/Sherwood factory in China is more of a 'churn and burn' operation with more just-in-time inventory.
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post #17082 of 21934
5/8/12 at 7:30am
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Originally Posted by khollister View Post

... and then I'll chase the wife and animals back into the bedroom...

TMI
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post #17083 of 21934
5/8/12 at 10:41am
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Originally Posted by jdsmoothie View Post

Correct. Although this issue has been resolved on the new XX13 models, for the 4311CI, you will need to buy either an ATV or Airport Express as an external source which then bypasses that limitation.

So if airport express is hooked up as a source, when I use an iPod touch and click the airplay button I will see two choices the Denon and the airport express unit. If I choose AE I can then play the iPod source through zone 2 and a movie in the main zone?
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post #17084 of 21934
5/8/12 at 10:43am
^^^

yes... that is basically how mine is set up with an atv...
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5/8/12 at 12:08pm
HELP!!! My Direc TV box is hooked up to my TV through the 4311. Lately when I change channels on the Direc TV the 4311 makes a loud clicking sound. It seems like the DSP or the switcher is doing this when it receives the audio feed. Any ideas?
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post #17086 of 21934
5/8/12 at 12:18pm
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HELP!!! My Direc TV box is hooked up to my TV through the 4311. Lately when I change channels on the Direc TV the 4311 makes a loud clicking sound. It seems like the DSP or the switcher is doing this when it receives the audio feed. Any ideas?

Make sure the the DirecTV box set to output Dolby and not PCM.

Bill
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post #17087 of 21934
5/8/12 at 12:21pm
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Originally Posted by mrfattbill View Post

Make sure the the DirecTV box set to output Dolby and not PCM.

Bill

It is set to output Dolby. I have had this setup since I bought the 4311 last year but this clicking sound started recently.
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post #17088 of 21934
5/8/12 at 12:35pm
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Originally Posted by makado View Post

HELP!!! My Direc TV box is hooked up to my TV through the 4311. Lately when I change channels on the Direc TV the 4311 makes a loud clicking sound. It seems like the DSP or the switcher is doing this when it receives the audio feed. Any ideas?

most likely you are hearing a relay click due to a change in speaker configuration, for example going from "A" to "B" front speakers, changing from "height" to "surr.back" speakers if they share the same amp channels, etc.

What is likely happening is you hear the click when you change from a 2ch audio feed to a channel broadcasting in 5.1, and you are using different surround modes for the different input signal types.

can you:

1. describe your speaker layout (e.g. 5.1, 5.1 + heights, etc? and zone 2/3 speakers?) and have there been any changes recently in your layout?
2. find a channel change that will induce the "click" repeatably and watch the front panel display when you change channels. What's happening to the input signal, surround mode, output channels, etc?
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post #17089 of 21934
5/8/12 at 1:34pm
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Originally Posted by batpig View Post

most likely you are hearing a relay click due to a change in speaker configuration, for example going from "A" to "B" front speakers, changing from "height" to "surr.back" speakers if they share the same amp channels, etc.

What is likely happening is you hear the click when you change from a 2ch audio feed to a channel broadcasting in 5.1, and you are using different surround modes for the different input signal types.

can you:

1. describe your speaker layout (e.g. 5.1, 5.1 + heights, etc? and zone 2/3 speakers?) and have there been any changes recently in your layout?
2. find a channel change that will induce the "click" repeatably and watch the front panel display when you change channels. What's happening to the input signal, surround mode, output channels, etc?

Hey Batpig,

I have a simple 5.1 configuration with Def Tech front and middle speakers and two ceiling mounted speakers as the rears. There is no Zone 2 because I could not figure out how to connect Zone 2 to the whole house external amp.

I just switched channels between 2 HBO HD channels on Direc TV receiver with Dolby Digital being broadcast on both and at first the display on 4311 showed PLII Cinema, then it went to Multi Channel Stereo before finally settling on Dolby Digital with a click. The input says on Cable/Sat. Seems like it clicks when going through the Multi Ch to Dolby Dig.
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post #17090 of 21934
5/8/12 at 2:11pm
Anyone else having EE kissing their ass now since they know they over sold (read LIED) to several of us about availability and are having to wait to get more in stock. Any other authorized dealers out there matching the price?
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post #17091 of 21934
5/8/12 at 2:17pm
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Anyone else having EE kissing their ass now since they know they over sold (read LIED) to several of us about availability and are having to wait to get more in stock. Any other authorized dealers out there matching the price?

can you take it to the deal thread?
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post #17092 of 21934
5/8/12 at 2:28pm
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Any other authorized dealers out there matching the price?

The answer to your question is >>here<<.
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post #17093 of 21934
5/8/12 at 2:30pm
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Originally Posted by swizzchard View Post

can you take it to the deal thread?

Funny, I went to the deal thread and saw you asking technical issues that probably belonged here.
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post #17094 of 21934
5/8/12 at 4:24pm
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Originally Posted by Gov View Post

Just confirming in case I read wrong, Airplay cannot stream video

The problem is the service _airplay._ versus the marketing driven name Airplay. Although Apple and its licensees are now calling remote speaker service Airplay it's not -- it's still raop (like an Airport Express) rather than airplay (like an ATV2 or ATV3).
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post #17095 of 21934
5/8/12 at 7:11pm
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Originally Posted by ccotenj View Post

^^^

yes... that is basically how mine is set up with an atv...

Does it matter which airport express I get?
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post #17096 of 21934
5/8/12 at 10:42pm
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Originally Posted by khollister View Post

I was worried about the "target curve" since I have a great room that opens into the kitchen and dining room - probably 6000-7000 ft3 at least. The treble has the same relative prominence and quality as before, so the idea that XT32 runs the treble too hot in larger rooms seems bogus, at least with my speakers (old B&W DM603/601/CC6 series 1).

Congrats! Curious how close your MLP is to main speakers?

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The only real issue is one I have had with every receiver - Audyssey doesn't completely EQ out the "chestiness" from my center channel due to the speaker being on a shelf in the cabinet below the TV.

Does the Pro kit let me change the target curve on individual speakers?

Yes, with pro you can apply different +/- 3db edits to a single target curve for each individual channel.
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post #17097 of 21934
5/9/12 at 1:54am
My 4311 is now over a year old and still running on the 'out of box' firmware so I figure I should probably update it..... Had a couple of glitchs on audio with a recent movie (confirmed it's not the disc)

Now I'm basically what could be described as network incompetent so I was wondering if this would work.

I have a modem router in the office with 4 LAN ports on the back, this stays permenantly active and connected to the interweb and any computer I plug into it is instantly on the net.

Would I just be able to get a suitably long Cat5e or Cat6 'patch' lead (probably around 20 metres) and plug that into the Denon and the modem?

There is Wifi also, but judging from the signal strength showing on the laptop when down in the media room, I'd rather not chance using that.....

Cheers
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post #17098 of 21934
5/9/12 at 2:14am
So does anyone know for sure if the 4311ci will pass through a 4k signal via HDMI?

Edit: I found it, but I just can't find anything "official" on their site that says it.
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post #17099 of 21934
5/9/12 at 3:23am
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Originally Posted by tandy1000rl View Post

Congrats! Curious how close your MLP is to main speakers?

Yes, with pro you can apply different +/- 3db edits to a single target curve for each individual channel.

I'm about 14 ft from the front speakers
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post #17100 of 21934
5/9/12 at 4:06am
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I have a modem router in the office with 4 LAN ports on the back, this stays permenantly active and connected to the interweb and any computer I plug into it is instantly on the net.

Yes that will work.
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