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post #19801 of 23136
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Originally Posted by tc1 View Post

I mean have you experienced this on all the different CABLE channels coming through the STB? If it is only one or two channels it is source channels problem. I have OTA only but on rare occasions had this happen on an individual channel/station.

Yes, it happens on all cable channels. Sorry I misunderstood.

So, what is the requirement/trick for changing the Audio Delay?
post #19802 of 23136
Maybe the audio delay only work on HDMI sources. I would look into your manual all else fail ask Denon tech support biggrin.gif
post #19803 of 23136
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Originally Posted by kanti123 View Post

Maybe the audio delay only work on HDMI sources. I would look into your manual all else fail ask Denon tech support biggrin.gif

Figured it out! I was using the Web GUI earlier. Using the GUI on the monitor/display does allow changes to the Audio Delay setting. Probably needs the context of a video output. Anyways, I am glad I don't have to do any re-wiring. Does make me wonder about other settings that may not function via the Web GUI.
post #19804 of 23136
The web GUI is always clunky, not that bother me much any ways. I still do want denon to put a little bit of effort into it.
post #19805 of 23136
I can change my delay from the web control for what it's worth - W7-64/FF15.
post #19806 of 23136
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Originally Posted by batpig View Post

this post by AustinJerry is as wonderful of a description as you will ever get: http://www.avsforum.com/t/1430049/the-official-denon-avr-4520ci-thread/330#post_22487485

This isn't going to reflect well on my intelligence, but I can't seem to get the Network Save working for me. I notice that the instructions that AustinJerry posted are for the 4520 and I am betting that my issue is something to do with the 4311 menu being slightly different. Specifically, in the notes it says to "Change the network configuration from the default “Always On” to “Off in Standby”. " This isn't an option I can find in the 4311 menus. I have the option to turn Network Standby On or Off (Network Setup > Other > Network Standby. ON or OFF). I have tried both and both times things just hang up after I start the "Save Config" from a web browser.

On the web control interface I have noticed the two Notes in the Save area....

1. To use the web control function, set the GUI menu "Manual Setup" - "Network Setup" - "Other" - "Network Standby" setting to "ON", so that clearly tells me what the right setting there is.

2. To use the SAVE function, Please stop the play back of NET/USB. I don't have anything playing back on NET/USB. Is this just a standard warning or does my 4311 actually think/detect some playback I am unaware of?

Any suggestions or thoughts?
Edited by gtm73 - 11/17/12 at 12:52pm
post #19807 of 23136
"Off" and "Off in standby" are the same. I know it says to turn this On in the web interface, but it needs to be Off.

So, starting with the 4311 powered on, you go into the web interface and click "Save". Does the AVR not power off after 5-10 seconds with the word "Saving" displayed on the front panel? Some have reported that after unplugging the AVR for a few seconds, plugging it back in and powering on has resulted in a successful save.

This whole save process has been quirky on the 4311.
post #19808 of 23136
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Originally Posted by AustinJerry View Post

"Off" and "Off in standby" are the same. I know it says to turn this On in the web interface, but it needs to be Off.
So, starting with the 4311 powered on, you go into the web interface and click "Save". Does the AVR not power off after 5-10 seconds with the word "Saving" displayed on the front panel? Some have reported that after unplugging the AVR for a few seconds, plugging it back in and powering on has resulted in a successful save.
This whole save process has been quirky on the 4311.

This might be unrelated, but I have the AVR-1912 right now ( waiting for 4311) I left my Standby mode to "ON", so that I can turn my Denon on with the android app or Web GUI. Wish I can help further more.
post #19809 of 23136
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Originally Posted by kanti123 View Post

This might be unrelated, but I have the AVR-1912 right now ( waiting for 4311) I left my Standby mode to "ON", so that I can turn my Denon on with the android app or Web GUI. Wish I can help further more.

Are you saying you can conduct a successful save with network standby On? Most users report that it must be Off for a successful save. Of course, after the save has completed, it's OK to turn network standby back on.
post #19810 of 23136
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Originally Posted by AustinJerry View Post

Are you saying you can conduct a successful save with network standby On? Most users report that it must be Off for a successful save. Of course, after the save has completed, it's OK to turn network standby back on.

I wish I could tell you that, I don't think AVR-1912 have that option. What I was saying I can access my receiver when it's off, using my web gui or apps on my phone or android device. Sorry if that misleading you. I don't see the save option here in my GUI, unless it's the Memory part.
post #19811 of 23136
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Originally Posted by AustinJerry View Post

Are you saying you can conduct a successful save with network standby On? Most users report that it must be Off for a successful save. Of course, after the save has completed, it's OK to turn network standby back on.

I have always have it on- but I don't know why really. I knew of the "off" issue so tried it that way and it didn't work. Only works part time with it on of course.

If on screen stuff is an indication that it has switched from off to on, then there's quite a time lag in that direction (no onscreen stuff to see when it's turned off.) Thinking that if someone thinks it's instant, then it will seem not to work, when really it's just going through the motions of switching?

Whatever, I use it on, and just try again if it doesn't work (which might or might not require a power switch cycle.)

I'll set it to off now, so next time I try I'll see if it works - save time with no wondering about power cycling or if it's not working because of not waiting long enough after switching, or some other gremlins.
post #19812 of 23136

@ Kanti123,

 

Sorry, I am not familiar with the capabilities of your AVR.

post #19813 of 23136
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Originally Posted by kanti123 View Post

I wish I could tell you that, I don't think AVR-1912 have that option. What I was saying I can access my receiver when it's off, using my web gui or apps on my phone or android device. Sorry if that misleading you. I don't see the save option here in my GUI, unless it's the Memory part.

Nope, not an option on the 1912.
post #19814 of 23136
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Originally Posted by jdsmoothie View Post

Nope, not an option on the 1912.
ah thanks for clearing things up
post #19815 of 23136
Hi,
I have the 4311 and I was just given 2 subwoofers. One an 8" Polk and the other a Jamo 10". I already have an Earthquake Supernova MKV 12. I know connecting 2 subwoofers is simple since there are 2 sub outs. What about 3? What would be the best way to connect 3 subwoofers and would it be worth the trouble. Would Audyssey do a good job configuring a setup with 3 subs? What would be the best place to put the 3 subs?

Photo of floor plan below.

Thanks in advance.

post #19816 of 23136
Although Audyssey can do 3 subs, as they would be summed together, you reduce the calibration effectiveness down to the least capable sub, so you're better served selling the 8" and 10" and getting another 12" to match your current model.
post #19817 of 23136
Setup:
Denon 4311ci: 7.1ch
Polk RTi12 (Front): http://www.polkaudio.com/products/rti12
Polk CSi5 (Center): http://www.polkaudio.com/products/csi5
Klipsch S-3 (Surrounds): http://www.klipsch.com/s-3-surround-speaker
Klipsch RW-12 (2 Subs): http://www.klipsch.com/rw-12d-subwoofer
1. Will these speakers match HT setup?
2. Why after setup Audyssey MultEQ XT 32, Volume so low? Receiver display showed AUDYSSEY MULTEQ XT 32. I have to turn on volume high -20 to hear OK sound)
Result after setup Audyssey MultEQ XT 32: PARAMETER CHECK
SPKR CONFIG CHECK: F (Large); Center (Large); Surround (Small)
CHANNEL LEVEL: FL (-3.0dB); FR (-2.0dB); Center (2.5)
Sub1 (-9.0dB); Sub2 (-6.56.0dB)
Surr.L (-6.5dB); Surr.R (-7.0dB)
Surr.Back L (-7.5dB); Surr.Back R (-7.0dB)
3. I have to adjusted in SPEAKER SETUP (see below) to get GOOD Sound volume only need to be -48 but Receiver displayed showed AUDYSSEY MULTEQXT DYNVOL. No more display XT 32?
Channel Level: F (11.5dB); C(11.5dB); Surr.L & R (7.5dB); SB. L & R (8.0dB)

4. On Denon avr-4311ci Owner Manual (page Sec91, see below) showed can adjust ManualEQ can be set when MultEQ XT 32. How do I get to Adjust CH?
http://usa.denon.com/us/product/pages/productdetail.aspx?CatId=AVReceivers(DenonNA)&pid=AVR4311CI(DenonNA)

Please help.
Thank you.
post #19818 of 23136
^^^

What is "CH"?
post #19819 of 23136
1) yes.

2) that is normal. the volume display/control is logarithmic, not linear.

3) put the channel trims back. that accomplished nothing.
post #19820 of 23136
No more display XT 32? Does this mean I no longer have AUDYSSEY MULTEQ XT 32 after I manual adjusted the Channel Level?
What did you mean by: 3) put the channel trims back. that accomplished nothing?
Thanks.
post #19821 of 23136
First, under Manual Setup - Speaker Config (p. 95 OM), change the FL/FR/C speakers to SMALL/80Hz. When you make these type of manual adjustments to the speakers, doing so does not impact the Audyssey filters and XT32 remains enabled. However, if you set Audyssey to "Manual EQ" (p. 89 OM) that WILL disable XT32 so generally not something you want to do. Also adjusting all of the speaker CH Levels higher is no different than simply raising the master volume which is why Chris suggested putting the speaker levels back to their original settings.
post #19822 of 23136
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Originally Posted by jdsmoothie View Post

Although Audyssey can do 3 subs, as they would be summed together, you reduce the calibration effectiveness down to the least capable sub, so you're better served selling the 8" and 10" and getting another 12" to match your current model.

That makes sense. Thanks JDS.

I don't think I can get much for the 8" & 10". Oh well.
post #19823 of 23136
If putting the speaker levels back to their original settings even turn on volume max the center sound not good as set manual channel adjust.
Also on 4) How do I get in Manual EQ (page Sec:91) (ManualEQ can be set when MultEQ XT 32) settings items: Adjust CH 1 - 4
Thanks.
post #19824 of 23136
Currently Audyssey set crossover surround and surround back: 150Hz
Should I change it all to 80Hz?
Thanks.
post #19825 of 23136
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Originally Posted by 4311ci View Post

Currently Audyssey set crossover surround and surround back: 150Hz
Should I change it all to 80Hz?
Thanks.

No, you can always raise the crossover frequency set by Audyssey, but you should never lower it.
post #19826 of 23136
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Originally Posted by 4311ci View Post

Currently Audyssey set crossover surround and surround back: 150Hz
Should I change it all to 80Hz?
Thanks.

No, and here's why:
"If you decide to change any of the Crossovers determined by Audyssey, note that it is always OK to RAISE the Crossovers from those suggested but never to LOWER them. This is because Audyssey corrects down to the -3dB point of the speaker's frequencies response, so if you lower the Crossover from Audyssey's suggested setting you will create an uncorrected 'hole' in the frequency response. "
http://www.avsforum.com/t/795421/official-audyssey-thread-faq-in-post-1/51750_50#user_c4

P.S. Read through the FAQ at the beginning of that thread for lots more information about what Audyssey is doing and what changes you can and can't make if you want to use Audyssey.
post #19827 of 23136
Hi All,

I just purchased an open box 4311 today and when I connected everything and turned the unit on, this is what I got:



I also tried to update the firmware but it keeps erroring out on the "APLD" update and shutting itself off.

Any ideas on how I can resolve these issues are greatly appreciated. Thanks.
post #19828 of 23136
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Originally Posted by MangJoe View Post

Hi All,
I just purchased an open box 4311 today and when I connected everything and turned the unit on, this is what I got:

I also tried to update the firmware but it keeps erroring out on the "APLD" update and shutting itself off.
Any ideas on how I can resolve these issues are greatly appreciated. Thanks.

From jdsmoothie

"Think your AVR is defective? "Reset the Microprocessor" (at least 3-4 times if necessary; see Owner's Manual)."

I would try that.
post #19829 of 23136
After ran Audyssey MultEQ XT 32, how set Dynamic EQ Reference Level (page Sec: 89) and Manual EQ (page Sec:91)?
Will I loose MultEQ XT 32 when set Dynamic EQ Reference Level and Manual EQ?
Thanks.
post #19830 of 23136
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Originally Posted by 4311ci View Post

After ran Audyssey MultEQ XT 32, how set Dynamic EQ Reference Level (page Sec: 89) and Manual EQ (page Sec:91)?
Will I loose MultEQ XT 32 when set Dynamic EQ Reference Level and Manual EQ?
Thanks.

Audyssey and Manual EQ are mutually exclusive. If you turn on Manual EQ, Audyssey will be disabled. Why do you want to turn on Manual EQ?

DEQ Reference Level Offset can be set to values of 0, 5, 10, and 15. Each higher value reduces the effect DEQ has on the audio, the differences being primarily in the levels of the surround speakers and the bass. I recommend you experiment with different values on different sources to see which setting has the desired effect for your system.
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