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Originally Posted by batpig View Post

Theresa, I think it's fair to say you are outside of the typical demographic for 4311CI thread participants tongue.gif Good to have some diversity! biggrin.gif

Agreed - even if I get the feeling that 4311 users are overwhelming, if not exclusively (minus Theresa LOL) 35+ males that live near medium to large size metropolitan areas, and have owned a series of successfully more sophicated AVRs over many years. You never know, though: Mayim Bialik (currently on the Big Bang Theory) has a doctorate in neuroscience - maybe she's a AVS lurker?smile.gif. We just have to get Anne Hathaway here.biggrin.gif

As an aside - in my day job I'm a marketing researcher (not A/V products sadly), and I find it fascinating how much social networks like this have shaped consumer preferences. Even though I should 'know' better, when I buy new A/V toys, the first thing I do is look at the AVS thread and see the kind of issues that come up - as well as the type of people on the thread to get an indication of what level of 'after market' a/k/a real product support I can expect.

In our own case, I switched AVRs entirely due to the folks here on the 4311 thread, and we just switched which TV we were going to buy (from a Sony HX929 LED to a 55" Panny VT50 Plasma; sorry AJ) almost entirely on the comparative knowledge of the folks answering questions on that thread, or using Lumagens and Calman with it. IMO there's definitely people that buy clusters of common products, such as A/V toys, and thanks to AVS, the chicken is definitely shaping the kind of egg that results...tongue.gif

Of course, here we couldn't have done it w/o Batpig, with his 20K posts and all...cool.gif
post #20042 of 23169
Actually, I got the 5508 because of AVS and got the 4311 also because of recommendations on AVS.
post #20043 of 23169
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Originally Posted by sdrucker View Post

We just have to get Anne Hathaway here.biggrin.gif

As an aside - in my day job I'm a marketing researcher (not A/V products sadly), and I find it fascinating how much social cool.gif

 

That reminds me I still have a PM from you that I forgot to answer. Apologies Stuart - I will get around to it asap.

 

Anne Hathaway, rubber suit, amazingly powerful motorcycle.... I think I have just fainted....eek.gif

post #20044 of 23169
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Originally Posted by kbarnes701 View Post

That reminds me I still have a PM from you that I forgot to answer. Apologies Stuart - I will get around to it asap.

Anne Hathaway, rubber suit, amazingly powerful motorcycle.... I think I have just fainted....eek.gif

A reference calibration benchmark, don't you think?biggrin.gif

Gentlemen, start your Calman/Chromapures.....

(sorry Theresa, I couldn't resist)

Postwise, 700 down, 19,300 to go....
post #20045 of 23169
Ok I have my first question for the masses. I use irule to control my current AVR over RS232. Is there a preference for weather I should control my 4311 over RS232 or IP?

Thanks!
post #20046 of 23169
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Originally Posted by Theresa View Post

I live in Minneapolis.

Ahh. 2 hours away, I'm in La Crosse.

Good luck with everything!
post #20047 of 23169
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Originally Posted by morty343 View Post

^^^
Thx JD, you saved me an unnecessary software reset.

I wish i was as fortunate...I reset everything before checking this thread last weekend....rolleyes.gif
post #20048 of 23169
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Originally Posted by mphfrom77 View Post

Yeah, coming up on 700 pages. Now someone needs to go through this entire thread, then cut and paste every crucial post to a new 4311 fact thread and tips thread that is locked...not allowing any comments. I mean I can't even keep up with this thread and I am a 4311 owner.
That's the kind of thing a wiki is for.

Too bad the forum takeover/upgrade didn't add any sort of wiki functionality to the site. There are a ton of threads that need something more than just a sticky at that the top controlled by a single editor.
post #20049 of 23169
^^
Actually .. there is. Wiki type posts can be placed in the Articles section of the forum which is where I have my Denon guide for the lower models placed.

http://www.avsforum.com/a/denon-2011-and-2012-avr-faq-setup-and-troubleshooting-guide
post #20050 of 23169
I re-run my Audyssey setup again today. I read over the setup guide from one of the member's signature here in this forum. I think it came out pretty good, my first and second was a meh. I think I know why, I had my first measurement too close to the wall. So I take out my tape measure and measure out 2ft off the wall and put my first position there.

FL 8.5ft -4.0bB
FR 7.6ft -3.5dB
C 8ft -6.5dB
Sub 8.7ft -3.0dB
SL 5.2ft -4.0dB
SR 4.9ft -3.5dB

Crossover;
Front: Full Band
Center: Full Band
Surround: 120hz

Front and Center will be set to small and crossover will be change to 80hz. I think the Front right is a little bit bad at 110hzish, might be due to it sitting right next to a hallow shelf. I can't really do anything with it. Any advice from you guys to improve anything don't hesitate to tell me, I am willing to learn.




Edited by kanti123 - 12/6/12 at 8:37pm
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When I select Pandora from the list as I normally do I'm given the option of "I have a Pandora account" or "I'm new to Pandora" as if I've never used it before. When I log it and click the "OK" button "Please wait" flashes for a split second and then nothing else happens. I've accessed my Pandora account online so there are no problems there or with the user ID/password and cycling the power doesn't help. Any ideas guys? Please don't tell me I have to do a factory reset.
Edited by repete66211 - 12/6/12 at 9:14pm
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When I select Pandora from the list it says "Authenticating..." Then I have an option of "I have a Pandora account" or "I'm new to Pandora". I indicate I have an account, enter the user name and password and click the "OK" button. "Please wait" flashes for a split second and then nothing else happens. I've accessed my Pandora account online so there are no problems there or with the user ID/password and cycling the power doesn't help. Any ideas guys?
Read the last few pages or so of the thread - there's a firmware update coming soon that should fix Pandora issues.
post #20053 of 23169
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Originally Posted by gsr View Post

Read the last few pages or so of the thread - there's a firmware update coming soon that should fix Pandora issues.
I did a quick search but didn't find anything. I see it now. Thanks. It'd be cool if the firmware would swap Napster for Spotify, no?
post #20054 of 23169
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Originally Posted by cheezit73 View Post

Ok I have my first question for the masses. I use irule to control my current AVR over RS232. Is there a preference for weather I should control my 4311 over RS232 or IP?
Thanks!

I use iRule as well, currently I'm using IP direct but there is a potential advantage for RS232 through an iTach. The advantage is in the number of connections, the 4311 only takes 1 IP connection for control at a time. This means you'll have issues if you're trying to connect with two devices at once or even have iRule running on two devices at once. iRule maintains connections to devices even when not being actively used, keep that in mind.

RS232 gets this limitation up to 5 or 8 (I forget which) due to the iTachs allowing a higher number of simultaneous connections.

If you never have the scenario I just described, I'd stick with IP. No reason to buy another iTach.
post #20055 of 23169
Thanks theyoshi. I will probably stick with the rs232 then as we use four devices with irule. No problem on the equipment as I am using a digiport server so I still have room for like 12 more rs 232 components lol!
post #20056 of 23169
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Originally Posted by kbarnes701 View Post

That reminds me I still have a PM from you that I forgot to answer. Apologies Stuart - I will get around to it asap.

Anne Hathaway, rubber suit, amazingly powerful motorcycle.... I think I have just fainted....eek.gif

A reference calibration benchmark, don't you think?biggrin.gif

Gentlemen, start your Calman/Chromapures.....

(sorry Theresa, I couldn't resist)

Postwise, 700 down, 19,300 to go....

 

:)  My colorimeter blew up :)

post #20057 of 23169
My 4311 is sitting at home, taking off here in a bit to spend the afternoon with it.
post #20058 of 23169
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Originally Posted by kaotikr1 View Post

My 4311 is sitting at home, taking off here in a bit to spend the afternoon with it.

Looks like you have a bunch of new toys to play with cool.gif.
post #20059 of 23169
Ok guys second 4311-Newbie question. I have been reading the owners manual and in regards to 11.2 channel and amp assign I just cant wrap my mind around whats going on.
Can someone please confirm that what I want to do will work?

I want to set up all 11 channels, I have an Emotiva UPA-7 7 channel external amp. I want to pre out to the AMP and use it for the Center, Fronts, Front Wides, and Sides. I would like to use the 4311 internal amps to drive the Rears, and the heights.

Does that work?

Edit: Reading further it seems I can do this if I set the Amp assign to the fronts as external amp correct?

Thanks!
post #20060 of 23169
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Originally Posted by kaotikr1 View Post

My 4311 is sitting at home, taking off here in a bit to spend the afternoon with it.

If you are not familiar with Denon, you will probably need that afternoon and into the evening because the manual, although complete, is not easy reading unless you already know the answer and want to refresh your memory. Aside from that, there is the matter of running Audyssey XT32 that requires minimal ambient noise, such as from the exterior.
post #20061 of 23169
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Originally Posted by cheezit73 View Post

Ok guys second 4311-Newbie question. I have been reading the owners manual and in regards to 11.2 channel and amp assign I just cant wrap my mind around whats going on.
Can someone please confirm that what I want to do will work?
I want to set up all 11 channels, I have an Emotiva UPA-7 7 channel external amp. I want to pre out to the AMP and use it for the Center, Fronts, Front Wides, and Sides. I would like to use the 4311 internal amps to drive the Rears, and the heights.
Does that work?
Edit: Reading further it seems I can do this if I set the Amp assign to the fronts as external amp correct?
Thanks!

It will work because the 4311CI can be used as a pre-pro. You can assign whatever speakers you want to your external amp.
post #20062 of 23169
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Originally Posted by cheezit73 View Post

Ok guys second 4311-Newbie question. I have been reading the owners manual and in regards to 11.2 channel and amp assign I just cant wrap my mind around whats going on.
Can someone please confirm that what I want to do will work?

I want to set up all 11 channels, I have an Emotiva UPA-7 7 channel external amp. I want to pre out to the AMP and use it for the Center, Fronts, Front Wides, and Sides. I would like to use the 4311 internal amps to drive the Rears, and the heights.

Does that work?

Edit: Reading further it seems I can do this if I set the Amp assign to the fronts as external amp correct?

Thanks!

did you read the FAQ in the first post? This is covered wink.gif

your interpretation is correct -- set AMP ASSIGN to 11CH and choose Fronts as your externally amp'd speaker, and then you can freely mix the other 9 channels between internal or external amps.
post #20063 of 23169
Thanks guys for the quick answer, I am trying to self educate here just was getting confused! Batpig I have read the FAQ as well as all the information linked in your signature, and Barnes and Smoothie, and now the manual and that is the problem as I am drinking from the fire hose and over saturated myself!
post #20064 of 23169
This may have been covered already (sorry if it was) but I haven't been able to find it, so...I've had the receiver a while but haven't yet installed Airplay. If I do, will I have to re-run Audyssey, reset inputs etc. afterwards? Thanks
post #20065 of 23169
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Originally Posted by jconjason View Post

Ahh. 2 hours away, I'm in La Crosse.
Good luck with everything!

Yes, a bit of a drive wink.gif I think I found someone at the drop-in center where I volunteer. Its a matter of lifting and moving and while I cannot do it alone a young guy should be able to do it. I dread doing it as things that don't need to come loose do and trying to get cables disconnected and then connected to the correct jack is tricky. I'll be labeling the cables with masking tape. At least speaker cables need not be messed with as I am using external amps for all channels.
post #20066 of 23169
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Originally Posted by MarvinC View Post

This may have been covered already (sorry if it was) but I haven't been able to find it, so...I've had the receiver a while but haven't yet installed Airplay. If I do, will I have to re-run Audyssey, reset inputs etc. afterwards? Thanks

no...
post #20067 of 23169
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Originally Posted by ccotenj View Post

no...

Thanks!
post #20068 of 23169
What do you guys make of this...

Red line is my just removed Onkyo PR-SC5508, Blue line is my new Denon 4311

Nothing was changed but my receiver, nothing moved, enviorment was the same, etc...

post #20069 of 23169
Well the difference is only below 20Hz so at least it won't affect me. Perhaps subsonic noise, such as a furnace?
Edited by Theresa - 12/7/12 at 3:53pm
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affect = verb
effect = noun

so "affect" is correct there wink.gif

(before the pedants jump on me, yes, "affect" can be a noun too, but not when using it in this context, i.e. to describe the impact of X on Y tongue.gif)
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