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post #20521 of 21934
1/11/13 at 4:58pm
Only 37 inches of display! Somebody needs an upgrade tongue.gif

Your plan will work. Just be aware of the limitations of zones (no HDMI, only analog and 2.0 PCM from optical/coax).
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post #20522 of 21934
1/11/13 at 5:51pm
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Originally Posted by batpig View Post

Only 37 inches of display! Somebody needs an upgrade tongue.gif

Your plan will work. Just be aware of the limitations of zones (no HDMI, only analog and 2.0 PCM from optical/coax).

Ha, guilty as charged - maybe next year a new tv is in order.

Your comment on zone limitations did bring up another question, however: is HDMI audio the only audio that cannot be output to the zones? For example, could I output net/am/fm/hd as well as cd/dvd audio input via optical? I apologize if you already answered this, but so much has changed as DRM wormed its way into home audio that I try not to assume anything anymore.
Thanks.
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post #20523 of 21934
1/12/13 at 3:15am
Correct. No HDMI, but rather, PCM 2.0 over optical/digital coax, all network sources, HD Radio tuner, USB, as well as analog connected sources.
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post #20524 of 21934
1/12/13 at 3:16pm
Watching the playoffs and suddenly lost video but was still getting sound. Tinkered around and confirmed that my HDMI 1 out is dead. I've only had the receiver for 6 months so this is highly disappointing. Does anyone have some pointers or experience with dealing with Denon support?
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post #20525 of 21934
1/12/13 at 3:22pm
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Watching the playoffs and suddenly lost video but was still getting sound. Tinkered around and confirmed that my HDMI 1 out is dead. I've only had the receiver for 6 months so this is highly disappointing. Does anyone have some pointers or experience with dealing with Denon support?
Yeah I recently had my left height channel go out. Call Denon and if you have a service center in your area they will direct you there. If not they give you a case number and you have to send it off. I have to send mine off to NJ which will be a pain in the arse, but it's better than nothing. I haven't called the service center yet to see how it works and if ill be liable for shipping or not so if someone else has had to send theirs off I would like to know as well.
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post #20526 of 21934
1/12/13 at 3:50pm
Shipping back is on you...from Denon to you is on them...Just sent my 4310 with flashing video to be repaired. Pretty painless process minus being without an AVR for 10 days or so...
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post #20527 of 21934
1/12/13 at 3:54pm
I am getting my 4311CI on Monday (YEA!) and I have a hook up question
I have a Directv satellite receiver and a Sony blu-ray player, both with hdmi.
My Toshiba tv has hdmi but no ARC hdmi.
Currently I run my sat and bd hdmi to input 1 and 2 of the tv and go with optical from the sat and bd to the receiver.
For the new receiver If I run hdmi from the sat and bd and then out the receiver to the tv with no arc, how do I get audio?
Unless the receiver can do both hdmi for the video and optical for the audio on one input I don’t see how it is going to work.
I hope this makes sense. I have been reading for days on this site and the manual. This site is great by the way!

edit to add that my tv optical out is only 2 channel out
Edited by culliganman - 1/12/13 at 4:02pm
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post #20528 of 21934
1/12/13 at 4:02pm
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Yeah I recently had my left height channel go out. Call Denon and if you have a service center in your area they will direct you there. If not they give you a case number and you have to send it off. I have to send mine off to NJ which will be a pain in the arse, but it's better than nothing. I haven't called the service center yet to see how it works and if ill be liable for shipping or not so if someone else has had to send theirs off I would like to know as well.
I'll give Denon a call and see how it goes. I'm in NYC so hopefully I can drop it off somewhere close by. My old receiver lasted years without a single issue so I'm a little worried about the lifespan I can expect from the 4311.
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post #20529 of 21934
1/12/13 at 4:04pm
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Originally Posted by culliganman View Post

I am getting my 4311CI on Monday (YEA!) and I have a hook up question
I have a Directv satellite receiver and a Sony blu-ray player, both with hdmi.
My Toshiba tv has hdmi but no ARC hdmi.
Currently I run my sat and bd hdmi to input 1 and 2 of the tv and go with optical from the sat and bd to the receiver.
For the new receiver If I run hdmi from the sat and bd and then out the receiver to the tv with no arc, how do I get audio?
Unless the receiver can do both hdmi for the video and optical for the audio on one input I don’t see how it is going to work.
I hope this makes sense. I have been reading for days on this site and the manual. This site is great by the way!

edit to add that my tv optical out is only 2 channel out

 

Not sure what your issue is.  HDMI carries both audio and video.  One HDMI cable from both the BR and the DTV to the AVR, and one HDMI from the AVR to the TV gets you video to the TV, and audio on the speakers connected to the AVR.

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post #20530 of 21934
1/12/13 at 4:08pm
I thought the only way that would work is if everything was hdmi4 with arc, my tv is not.

edit to add: thanks austinjerry
Edited by culliganman - 1/12/13 at 4:21pm
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post #20531 of 21934
1/12/13 at 4:25pm
Your TV needs ARC in order to send audio from the TV back to the receiver over the same HDMI. Based on your description, you shouldn't have a problem.
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post #20532 of 21934
1/12/13 at 4:32pm
Thanks guys, so if I were using the built in tuner of the tv, I would need a tv with arc, but since I am using DTV for channels, I'm ok.
Is that right?
Thanks again.
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post #20533 of 21934
1/12/13 at 4:35pm
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Thanks guys, so if I were using the built in tuner of the tv, I would need a tv with arc, but since I am using DTV for channels, I'm ok.
Is that right?
Thanks again.

Correct.
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post #20534 of 21934
1/12/13 at 4:58pm
Just checked firmware update, and it seems that there is some new firmware for the A100... anyone else?
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post #20535 of 21934
1/12/13 at 8:32pm
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Originally Posted by culliganman View Post

Thanks guys, so if I were using the built in tuner of the tv, I would need a tv with arc, but since I am using DTV for channels, I'm ok.
Is that right?
Thanks again.

Correct.

Actually not totally correct. He would not NEED a tv with ARC regardless because you can always go the optical out. There is nothing necessary about ARC, it's simply a convenience for people who want one fewer cable.
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post #20536 of 21934
1/12/13 at 9:07pm
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Actually not totally correct. He would not NEED a tv with ARC regardless because you can always go the optical out. There is nothing necessary about ARC, it's simply a convenience for people who want one fewer cable.

It is my understanding that I need to use a HDMI cable to be able to get Dolby TrueHD or DTS-HD and that an optical cable is not capable of transmitting Dolby TrueHD or DTS-HD, is that true?
My blu-ray player is 1.4 HDMI capable, so with the 4311CI, I am hoping to be able to hear the HD track on BD's. Am I all set to go?
Thanks.
Edited by culliganman - 1/12/13 at 9:22pm
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post #20537 of 21934
1/12/13 at 9:07pm
double post, don't know how to delete it
Edited by culliganman - 1/12/13 at 9:19pm
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post #20538 of 21934
1/12/13 at 9:29pm
There is a delete button next to the edit button.

Yes, HD audio requires an HDMI connection. But again, just to be clear, this has nothing to do with ARC. You will connect the Blu ray player direct to the receiver with a single HDMI cable, which will carry both HD video and hi rez audio.

You don't even need HDMI 1.4 for this, that's really only needed for 3D support. So yes, you are good to go.
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post #20539 of 21934
1/13/13 at 5:26am
I'd like to add that your TV probably won't receive nor decode HD audio via it's built-in Tuners (Are there any available yet at all? Content providers?) That would be the only scenario where the lack of ARC might be of concern other than the number of cables.
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post #20540 of 21934
1/13/13 at 5:44am
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Watching the playoffs and suddenly lost video but was still getting sound. Tinkered around and confirmed that my HDMI 1 out is dead. I've only had the receiver for 6 months so this is highly disappointing. Does anyone have some pointers or experience with dealing with Denon support?

http://www.panurgyoem.com/denon/denonrepair.html

Rockaway, NJ

I had this happen after 3 months. Bad HDMI card. Quick fix and very quick turn around (1 week), during Sandy no less.

Willie
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post #20541 of 21934
1/13/13 at 6:01am
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Originally Posted by trublu View Post

Watching the playoffs and suddenly lost video but was still getting sound. Tinkered around and confirmed that my HDMI 1 out is dead. I've only had the receiver for 6 months so this is highly disappointing. Does anyone have some pointers or experience with dealing with Denon support?

Note that although it may be less expensive when a local repair facility is available as you don't have to pay for shipping, rather only gas to and from the facility, in some cases the local repair shop turn around time can take 3-4 weeks or longer, whereas on average turn around from the PanurgyOEM facility in NJ is generally much quicker on average from 1-2 weeks. smile.gif
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post #20542 of 21934
1/13/13 at 6:09am
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Originally Posted by batpig View Post

There is a delete button next to the edit button.

Yes, HD audio requires an HDMI connection. But again, just to be clear, this has nothing to do with ARC. You will connect the Blu ray player direct to the receiver with a single HDMI cable, which will carry both HD video and hi rez audio.

You don't even need HDMI 1.4 for this, that's really only needed for 3D support. So yes, you are good to go.

OK, makes sense. Thanks.

As far as deleting, I have an edit button that looks like a pencil in the far left lower corner, and just to the right of it I have a red flag (report this forum post to a moderator).
I don't see a delete button next to the edit button.
Maybe I have not posted enough to have that right yet?
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post #20543 of 21934
1/13/13 at 6:20am
The following 3 icons should show up in the lower left corner of your post. If you don't see the red "x" then you cannot delete the post, although don't know whether this is based on some minimum total post count.

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post #20544 of 21934
1/13/13 at 6:24am
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Just checked firmware update, and it seems that there is some new firmware for the A100... anyone else?

If you haven't updated in awhile, most likely the Pandora update from a few weeks ago.
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post #20545 of 21934
1/13/13 at 7:26am
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The following 3 icons should show up in the lower left corner of your post. If you don't see the red "x" then you cannot delete the post, although don't know whether this is based on some minimum total post count.


I don't have the red x icon, I bet it will appear as you say after a minimum post count.
Thanks for the graphic, at least I know I was looking in the right spot.
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post #20546 of 21934
1/13/13 at 1:22pm
any1 know where i can still get a good deal on a 4311. i finally kinda have funds, wished i had funds a few months ago.
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post #20547 of 21934
1/13/13 at 1:59pm
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any1 know where i can still get a good deal on a 4311. i finally kinda have funds, wished i had funds a few months ago.

You can check ebay if you don't mind purchasing a used model: http://www.ebay.com/itm/DENON-AVR-4311CI-9-2-Channel-A-V-Receiver-NO-RESERVE-/290842249219?pt=Receivers_Tuners&hash=item43b78c8803

or Amazon for a new unit: http://www.amazon.com/Denon-AVR-4311CI-Channel-Multi-Room-Receiver/dp/B0042KVX2S/ref=?ie=UTF8&m=A1DLNFHO4FVEZ4
Edited by ggsantafe - 1/13/13 at 2:07pm
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post #20548 of 21934
1/13/13 at 2:26pm
Crutchfield, OneCall, and Vann's all still have new 4311s for sale.
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post #20549 of 21934
1/13/13 at 2:29pm
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Crutchfield, OneCall, and Vann's all still have new 4311s for sale.


Also Crutchfield has a 60-Day Money-Back Guarantee.
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post #20550 of 21934
1/13/13 at 3:53pm
I was finally able to get Airplay and Internet radio to work. The problem was in the way I set up, or actually, didn't set up my wireless bridge. The WPS method (pressing a WPS button on the bridge and then on the router) didn't work but their alternate method (attaching the bridge directly to the PC and responding to the browser page that opened) did the trick.

Of course, the next day my wired PC couldn't access the internet, so I had to go thru a "repair connection" thing on my router. And the next day my wife said her iPad couldn't access the internet; unplugging the router temporarily seemed to take care of that.

In any case, thanks to those who read and responded to my posts.
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