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post #20821 of 21934
1/26/13 at 11:22am
So now that I have my display shut off I had a strange thing happen.
In the middle of watching a movie on Sat the display flashed on and then went back off.
The remote control was not touched.
What would cause this?
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post #20822 of 21934
1/26/13 at 12:25pm
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Originally Posted by ben_r_ View Post

So that I can hear the full DSD out of my SACD collection and compare the difference. As I understand it DSD over HDMI gets converted to PCM in the receiver where as using the Ext. In it just gets passed through and amplified. And secondly, it was an additional $40 in cables and after spending over $2k on the combo, WHY NOT?! And it wasnt THAT bad. I just wrapped the 8 cables together and stuck em in there. Took me all of 15 minutes.
Ahh, a noble cause. But when you use Ext In you don't just get the missing 10 dB of the .1 MC SACD channel, you get all your room problems added back in, as you can't use Audyssey.

BTW4311i reported a bad batch of those in 15' recently, caused humming connecting 4311 prerouts to Emo amps. I told him they are more suited as SW cables than as ICs from player to AVR. That's why those cables are so unweildy. Is it the red part touching? It appears from the pic that part is cosmetic and insulated from the conductors. A continuity tester would confirm.
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post #20823 of 21934
1/26/13 at 1:09pm
I just got my new Denon 4311 last week. Everything is set up and working great except.......the amp shuts down when I start pushing music in 2 channel stereo. I'm running Canton Ventos 880. The speakers are bi amped using the F. Wide/Amp assign mode. The red light starts blinking like its overheating but when you feel the unit it is not very warm. I have tried putting a fan over it but it still shuts down. I have 14 inches of clearance above and 8 inches behind. Do you think I could have a defective unit?
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post #20824 of 21934
1/26/13 at 1:16pm
Well, before you consider the unit defective do some troubleshooting.

Check your wiring carefully. Bi amping just means there is double the chance of a bad wire or loose strand or something.

Also how loud are you playing when it shuts down? Those speakers aren't very sensitive but it shouldn't shut down the receiver unless its REALLY loud... And then I would assume the receiver would be hot. So I don't think that's it.
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post #20825 of 21934
1/26/13 at 1:25pm
I have got banana plugs on all the speaker wire so I don't think anything is stray or touching to cause a short. I am listening at high volumes though but not much more that i was with my old Denon 2803 and that never shut down or got ever heated. The amp is usually about 75% power when shutting down but of course that varies depending on the source. Shouldn't it feel pretty warm on top to the touch if it is shutting down due to overheating?
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post #20826 of 21934
1/26/13 at 1:34pm
Is the red light blinking at 2 second or 1/2 second intervals?
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post #20827 of 21934
1/26/13 at 1:41pm
2 second
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post #20828 of 21934
1/26/13 at 1:46pm
That indicates a temperature problem.
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post #20829 of 21934
1/26/13 at 1:46pm
I want to listen to the local announcers on the Radio while watching football games but I have not been able to get the picture to show on the TV. I have the cable box hooked via HDMI to the 4311 and use the HDMI pass-thru set so the family can watch TV without turning on the 4311. When I turn 4311 on and switch to the Tuner I lose the picture on the TV. I don't see a way to assign an HDMI input to the tuner so how do I get the picture while playing the radio?

Thanks.
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post #20830 of 21934
1/26/13 at 2:02pm
^^
You can solve both issues by simply connecting the cable box HDMI directly to the TV with cable box optical to the AVR.
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post #20831 of 21934
1/26/13 at 2:39pm
I have been using a Harmony 1000 remote with my avr-3311 in my living room. I moved the 3311 to the bedroom and replaced it with a 4311 and two more speakers. Now I want to use the Harmony 1000 remote with the new receiver. Since the Harmony 1000 is already set up to operate all of my equipment in the living room including the 3311, will I even need to reprogram it? Shouldn't almost all of the remote functions be exactly the same for a 4311 as they were for the 3311?

I bought a Harmony 700 to use in the bedroom. It took me about 2 hours to get it how I want it. I was hoping to avoid that with the Harmony 1000 because it's already exactly how I want it. If I plug the HDMI cables into the same inputs in the 4311 as I was using in the 3311, I think it should be fine, right? I may need to reprogram a button or two but nothing major, right?
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post #20832 of 21934
1/26/13 at 2:48pm
Yes the codes are all the same. You might need to do some minor fiddling to get inputs or whatever working perfectly but no need to reprogram from scratch.
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post #20833 of 21934
1/26/13 at 2:54pm
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Originally Posted by thevolumnus View Post

I have been using a Harmony 1000 remote with my avr-3311 in my living room. I moved the 3311 to the bedroom and replaced it with a 4311 and two more speakers. Now I want to use the Harmony 1000 remote with the new receiver. Since the Harmony 1000 is already set up to operate all of my equipment in the living room including the 3311, will I even need to reprogram it? Shouldn't almost all of the remote functions be exactly the same for a 4311 as they were for the 3311?

I bought a Harmony 700 to use in the bedroom. It took me about 2 hours to get it how I want it. I was hoping to avoid that with the Harmony 1000 because it's already exactly how I want it. If I plug the HDMI cables into the same inputs in the 4311 as I was using in the 3311, I think it should be fine, right? I may need to reprogram a button or two but nothing major, right?

Well the 3311 has 4 pages of commands for programming the buttons, the 4311 has 8 pages.
It depends on what you think you need.

Edit, this is for my Harmony 550 remote.
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post #20834 of 21934
1/26/13 at 8:09pm
If a particular command is missing its a lot easier to just learn it from the 4311 remote than to reconfigure the entire setup and all your activities.

Trust me, I have been using the Harmony profile for a Denon 2105 for like 6 different receivers and have just added to it where necessary when I swap a new one in.
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post #20835 of 21934
1/27/13 at 6:19am
What is DTUBand and DTUBankA through G, and DTUBank0 through 9?
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post #20836 of 21934
1/27/13 at 6:35am
I just looked, I have a 550 and I don't see how it can learn for the "additional" buttons. That is what I mostly use.
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post #20837 of 21934
1/27/13 at 6:48am
batpig, do you happen to know if there is a hex code to engage/disengage the "auto lip sync" feature?

Thanks

Bill
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post #20838 of 21934
1/27/13 at 7:10am
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Originally Posted by culliganman View Post

What is DTUBand and DTUBankA through G, and DTUBank0 through 9?

Not sure, but I think those are presets for radio stations (perhaps both HD radio and internet radio??]
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post #20839 of 21934
1/27/13 at 7:13am
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Originally Posted by culliganman View Post

I just looked, I have a 550 and I don't see how it can learn for the "additional" buttons. That is what I mostly use.
The 550 is a learning remote. You have to be connected to the Harmony setup page and simply follow the onscreen instructions. wink.gif

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Originally Posted by pbarach View Post

Not sure, but I think those are presets for radio stations (perhaps both HD radio and internet radio??]
Yes, Radio presets.
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post #20840 of 21934
1/27/13 at 7:46am
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Originally Posted by Splicer010 View Post

The 550 is a learning remote. You have to be connected to the Harmony setup page and simply follow the onscreen instructions. wink.gif
Yes, Radio presets.


Yea, I have used the learn function.
The standard buttons can learn, but I don't think the additional buttons can. I could be wrong. smile.gif

By additional I mean the on screen menu.
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post #20841 of 21934
1/27/13 at 8:00am
On screen menu? The 550 activity screen? You can learn/assign any button to any function desired, including the activity screen buttons in the Advanced section of the setup page from Harmony. cool.gif
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post #20842 of 21934
1/27/13 at 8:43am
Yes the list of commands is dissociated from the actual button assignments. That's kind of the whole point -- you can take any command and assign it to any button you want. It doesn't matter whether you assign it to a "hard" button or to the LCD screen.
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Originally Posted by culliganman View Post

What is DTUBand and DTUBankA through G, and DTUBank0 through 9?

I believe those are the things I delete immediately to clean up the "device" mode and condense everything down to 2-3 pages of actually useful commands smile.gif
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post #20843 of 21934
1/27/13 at 9:17am
OK, a few questions. Are you guys using the website http://members.harmonyremote.com?
I have been using the software that came with the remote, ver 7.7.0. They are different.
Before messing with adding the dim command I did not know the website existed. I know the software also connects to the website but different looking.
Next question. When you go to learn a command on the LCD screen how do you press the button on lets say page 2?
When mine goes into learning it just shows learning.
Also I can not find the Advanced section of the setup page.
Sorry that I don't explain myself well.

Thanks, I don't want to sidetrack from the AVR to Logictech remote so I will leave it at that.
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post #20844 of 21934
1/28/13 at 10:40am
Hello, I'm interested in buying a used AVR-A100 from an individual. He states that there is three years left on the warranty, but I couldn't find anything on Denon's website stating if warranties are transferable.

So will the warranty still be good if I bought it?

Thanks.
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post #20845 of 21934
1/28/13 at 10:56am
I think, technically, the warranty is non-transferrable, but if you have the original receipt and say you got it as a gift or something, are they really going to enforce that? I think you'll be OK with original proof of purchase... even without it, they might just check the serial number and note that it was bought from an authorized dealer and that will be that.
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post #20846 of 21934
1/28/13 at 10:58am
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Originally Posted by culliganman View Post

Next question. When you go to learn a command on the LCD screen how do you press the button on lets say page 2?
When mine goes into learning it just shows learning.

I'm not sure what you are asking -- again, the specific location of the buttons on the remote is totally irrelevant. You can assign a command to any button. You learn the COMMAND, and if the command you want isn't listed you can just create a new one at the bottom.

I don't really understand the other question either, although I do use the installed software (not the web-based version).
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post #20847 of 21934
1/28/13 at 11:20am
@sandtrooper
Just a quick FYI, I recently noticed Denon has both new and refurb A-100s for purchase on it's US website, in case you didn't know and/or buying the used one doesn't work out. Denon has reduced the prices some, hopefully the individual you're considering buying one from can give you a good deal w/copy of receipt from an AD.
http://usa.denon.com/us/product/pages/productdetail.aspx?pcatid=avsolutions(denonna)&catalog=denonna_us&catid=avreceivers(denonna)&pid=avra100(denonna)
http://usa.denon.com/us/product/pages/ProductDetail.aspx?catalog=denonna_us&PCatId=refurbishedprocat(denonna)&CatId=AVReceiversRef(DenonNA)&Pid=AVRA100(DenonNA)&IsRef=1
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post #20848 of 21934
1/28/13 at 1:31pm
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Originally Posted by batpig View Post

You probably aren't doing anything "wrong" per se, it's more likely a silly HDMI goof.

On the receiver side, you want the following settings:

- HDMI Control ON
- Standby Source set to whatever you want
- HDMI Audio OUT = AMP

That's all there is.


The most likely source of conflict is the TV itself -- does your display have an HDMI-CEC setting (e.g. Anynet+ for Samsung, VieraLink for Panasonic, etc)? If so try turning it off.
Thanks for the reply batpig,
You're right.... as usual:)
Turned out it was the Audio settings from my U-Verse DVR...
Have to switch the audio output to Stereo from Multichannel of the DVR...
My display, older Panasonic VT10 doesn't play well with Multichannel signal.
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post #20849 of 21934
1/28/13 at 3:46pm
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Originally Posted by SoundofMind View Post

Ahh, a noble cause. But when you use Ext In you don't just get the missing 10 dB of the .1 MC SACD channel, you get all your room problems added back in, as you can't use Audyssey.

BTW4311i reported a bad batch of those in 15' recently, caused humming connecting 4311 prerouts to Emo amps. I told him they are more suited as SW cables than as ICs from player to AVR. That's why those cables are so unweildy. Is it the red part touching? It appears from the pic that part is cosmetic and insulated from the conductors. A continuity tester would confirm.
Very true and I knew this already, but I just wanted to hear for myself. Just excited my new receiver even had the Ext In and thought Id spend a little more and play with the option. So far I actually dont like it as the corrections done by Audyssey are very beneficial.

Yea I thought I remembered reading there was such an issue with the 15' ones, I bought all 6' ones though. I may just order some standard RCA cables from them and swap them out too. I actually remove the red rubber ring from the connectors as they annoy me. But even with those one the connectors would still touch. I have still havent put the continuity tester on them yet, but Ill be back there again to run a 12V trigger line so Ill check it out then.
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post #20850 of 21934
1/28/13 at 3:52pm
ben_r-

Did you get your AVR to update or are you just using it as is?
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