The "Official" Denon AVR-4311CI/AVR-A100 thread [NO PRICE TALK] - Page 698

Originally Posted by jdsmoothie 

The latest info I have heard is that this issue is not currently being worked on by Denon. A workaround that has worked for at least one owner is to back out of Pandora and come back in to it again.

Originally Posted by SoundofMind 

Yes most film authorities recommend bi or dipoles at 90+/-10 for film 2' above seated ears. Most MC music authorities recommend monopoles at 110 +/-10 for music right about ear level and aimed at MLP.

A very few older, hi-end processors addressed this very issue by offering what is called Surr A and Surr B. It allowed you to run two different sets of surrounds switchable at the touch of a button. Each had their specific Audyssey EQ. AFAIK it was last available in the AVR 4310 and has been dropped from all more current models. They even remove that option from the AVPA1 flagship when the XT32 upgrade is done in favor of 11.2.

There is no easy solution for you. As MC music is more important to me than film, I use monopole surrounds at about 105, placed just above ear level as a compromise. It's great for music and works quite well for film, partly because I use DSX wides for film-they fill in the surround bubble nicely while expanding the front soundstage apparent depth and width. Surr backs are not practical for me as I sit so close to the back wall.

Here's a photo that gives you an idea of my setup. The Human Touch Zero Gravity black leather recliner is MLP.

Originally Posted by Roger Dressler 

Saying "ideal" in the context of 5.1 is somewhat of an oxymoron. When the ITU deliberated on defining a standard 5.1 setup, it was aimed at finding a tradeoff between getting a good sense of envelopment (side surrounds at 90-deg), and a good sense of rear effects (rear surrounds at 150 deg). The 100-120 deg range in ITU-R BS.775-2 is the compromise solution, devised back in the day before 7.1 was contemplated.

What would be idea would be to have a set of speakers for each. It took a while to get there, but 7.1 is now well entrenched. If you already have a 7.1 setup, the first choice would be to use it in 7.1 mode whenever 5.1 content is being played. Perhaps you've tried PLIIx and do not like it for some reason?

Originally Posted by batpig 

If it makes you feel any better the issue effects xx12 and x13 models too. Actually that probably doesn't make you feel any better.

Originally Posted by batpig 

Not sign out completely, just hit the left arrow twice to back out to the main "Network" menu screen. Then I reselect Pandora and the interface is normal again, not the Internet Radio one.

Just tried this right now. Started up Pandora and it automatically started playing the last station I had been playing before. But with the Internet Radio interface. Hit left arrow twice to back out, restarted Pandora, all is well.

Similar thing with Internet Radio, but it's a bit goofier. When I select Internet Radio it starts playing my last Pandora station again. I can then hit left once to back out to the main Internet Radio menu and select stations normally.

Each way, once I back out and redo it it works fine going forward, but it seems like getting one working screws the other one up. It's like they are having some weird back channel relationship or something

Originally Posted by ben_r_ 

Thankfully there are soo many other ways to stream Pandora. I have never even needed to use the built in reciver method. Never wanted to either as I pay for a subscription to Pandora and want to use a streamer that will give me access to the higher res audio that paying for Pandora gets you. In my house we stream Pandora from our iPhones/iPads/iPods/PCs/Macs via AirPlay, Squeeze Box Touches, rokus, oppo, heck it can even be streamed from the internet browser on the PS3. So Im not at all bothered if Denon never gets the Pandora thing right in their receivers, Thats the least of the reasons I bought it.

Originally Posted by Redbeemer 

I use the free Pandora, not the subscription service, but my understanding was that the higher resolution audio of the pay service was NOT available on any of the devices you mention (I have two Roku's and an Oppo), but rather only over a computer. It seems if the higher resolution audio was available on those other devices, it would also be available on the Denon, but it is not(when it is working properly).

Originally Posted by SoundofMind 

^Your enthusiasm is underwhelming.

Originally Posted by xiaojie 

I don't even really know anything about the 4311, but for some reason I think I've read its web page or something. Maybe not, lol. I do want to though. Have to go to denon site again.

I'm interested in this avr being I'm looking for a new avr between $1000-$2000. The 3311 doesn't have what I want so hopefully this will, but I doubt it. I'll probably stick with my thinking of getting the Onkyo 1008, but I'd much rather get a Denon.

Originally Posted by Gotchaa 

Did anyone else get prompted for new firmware? Release notes?

Originally Posted by Spaceman 

If anyone is having success playing music from either a thumb drive or external hard drive off the front USB port, can you let me know the specific brand/model you are using to store your files? I haven't had any luck connecting to a 2TB external hard drive or a thumb drive. The MP3 player that was connecting some of the time has now decided to stop turning on, so that is a no go as well.

There is a note on page 22 of the owners manual that says Denon does not guarantee that all USB memory devices will operate or receive power. Rather than take my chances when purchasing a new thumb drive, I thought I'd ask to see if there is one brand that seems to be working well for everyone.

Originally Posted by nevea2be 

I couldn't use my 2TB hard drive either and if I remember correctly it was because it was formatted in FAT32 and I would have had to change it to the other format in order to get to read through the 4311ci. (or reversed)

Originally Posted by Sam S 

Some of you may have seen the email blast yesterday, but Denon is offering factory refurb A100's for $1350 with free shipping, after a 10% coupon DENON10.

Originally Posted by SoundofMind 

Ahh, a noble cause. But when you use Ext In you don't just get the missing 10 dB of the .1 MC SACD channel,

Originally Posted by shady02 

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Is this also an issue (the missing 10 dB of the .1 MC SACD channel) with Denon Link 3?

Originally Posted by Bill Mac 

Not SoM but I believe the lower LFE level was in reference to using the DSD setting when listening to SACDs.

Bill

Originally Posted by shady02 

Is it better to use the DSD setting or not use it? What is the best way to set up for listening to SACD. I have my 2930ci hooked up to my 4311ci with DenonLink 3. I also have an option for HDMI which I use for DVD-A.

Originally Posted by purbeast 

Anyone here use the network feature of the 4311ci to control the receiver with apps like iRule or Roomie Remote?

I'm using it and it seems like whenever I try to turn on my AVR with an activity (Play PS3 which turns it on, puts it in BD mode, and sets video to game mode) that none of these commands go through. I do have my AVR in stand by mode too. Then if I try to do it a 2nd time like 15 seconds later it seems to turn on the AVR.

Anyone seen any issues like this?