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post #20941 of 21928
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Originally Posted by shady02 View Post

Is it better to use the DSD setting or not use it? What is the best way to set up for listening to SACD. I have my 2930ci hooked up to my 4311ci with DenonLink 3. I also have an option for HDMI which I use for DVD-A.

I suggest you use DL3 for SACD, DVDA and CDs (set both player and AVR to DL3). I glanced at your OM and I think the only other way you can send SACD is analog. And sending analog means you have to use the Ext In on the AVR so you lose Audyssey. SACD over DL is DSD.

As Bill mentioned above, if there is significant content in a particular MC SACD's .1 ch and the -10 dB bug is in effect, you may be losing some bass. So if the bass seems too light over DL, then turn up the sub a bit. That only applies to MC SACD, stereo layers are fine.
Edited by SoundofMind - 2/8/13 at 6:35pm
post #20942 of 21928
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Originally Posted by AustinJerry View Post

In the AVR network settings, do you have it set for "Network On in Standby Mode"?  Otherwise, the AVR won't wake up.

Yes I do.
post #20943 of 21928
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Originally Posted by SoundofMind View Post

I suggest you use DL3 for SACD, DVDA and CDs (set both player and AVR to DL3). I glanced at your OM and I think the only other way you can send SACD is analog. And sending analog means you have to use the Ext In on the AVR so you lose Audyssey. SACD over DL is DSD.

As Bill mentioned above, if there is significant content in a particular MC SACD's .1 ch and the -10 dB bug is in effect, you may be losing some bass. So if the bass seems too light over DL, then turn up the sub a bit. That only applies to MC SACD, stereo layers are fine.

I played around on it last night. I'm pretty sure the -10 dB bug is in effect on MC SACD through DL3. I have Roy Orbison's Black and White Night on both SACD and DVDA. I haven't listened to the SACD version yet. I will play and compare them when I get a chance. That should tell me for if I am losing the bass.

If I use the DL3 for DVDA, should I use a component video cable to handle the video?
Edited by shady02 - 2/9/13 at 1:31pm
post #20944 of 21928
I mentioned in an earlier thread that I bought a refurb 4311 from Accessories4less. It worked fine when I first hooked it up. Later that same night though, I added the airplay option. After that, it would not connect to my network. I have a 3311 on the same switch. I tried everything. I reset the microprocessor and the network card. The 4311 would not even light up my switch. I emailed Accessories4less. They told me to call Denon. I called Denon. They said it could take 4 to 6 weeks to repair it. I was disappointed in that. I didn't even get to use it one full day. I emailed Accessories4less again. They said they would take it up with Denon for me. They have an agreement with Denon that if the unit malfunctions within 30 days, Denon will replace it and cover shipping both ways. Within an hour, Denon sent me a Fed Ex label and a note saying it was eligible for replacement. As soon as I dropped the damaged 4311 off at Fed Ex, Denon sent out the replacement. It arrived today (three days later). I haven't hooked it up yet because I'm out of town. I won't be able to hook it up until tomorrow. I definitely won't be adding the airplay feature this time. I will update this post to let you know how it goes.
post #20945 of 21928
Upgrading the AVR with the Airplay firmware should not have caused a problem and if it's something you want, you should do the upgrade on the replacement unit.
post #20946 of 21928
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Originally Posted by shady02 View Post

...If I use the DL3 for DVDA, should I use a component video cable to handle the video?
Nope, no need for a separate cable-just CAT5 and HDMI from player to AVR.
post #20947 of 21928
I don't need the feature. I only upgraded it to get the popup to go away. I can live with the popup. Upgrading airplay definitely coincided with my network card breaking.
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Originally Posted by jdsmoothie View Post

Upgrading the AVR with the Airplay firmware should not have caused a problem and if it's something you want, you should do the upgrade on the replacement unit.
post #20948 of 21928
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Originally Posted by thevolumnus View Post

I don't need the feature. I only upgraded it to get the popup to go away. I can live with the popup. Upgrading airplay definitely coincided with my network card breaking.
Many of us in this thread have installed the Airplay upgrade without any issues. The network card failing just after installing the Airplay upgrade is almost certainly a coincidence - chances are it would have failed anyway. Installing the Airplay upgrade will also most likely help you with future resale value in case you decide to upgrade / switch to another AVR at some point.
post #20949 of 21928
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Originally Posted by thevolumnus View Post

I don't need the feature. I only upgraded it to get the popup to go away. I can live with the popup...
No need to do that, just turn off the notices- OM p106
post #20950 of 21928
I would WANT to upgrade it just to make sure the dang thing is working correctly! If it doesn't upgrade send that one back too! Repeat until you have a good unit.
post #20951 of 21928
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Originally Posted by thevolumnus View Post

I don't need the feature. I only upgraded it to get the popup to go away. I can live with the popup. Upgrading airplay definitely coincided with my network card breaking.

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Originally Posted by SoundofMind View Post

No need to do that, just turn off the notices- OM p106

+1

Although the settings factory default to ON for both the "update" and "upgrade" settings, both can be set to OFF.

post #20952 of 21928
Ok so I finally got my 7.1 setup. Ran through the setup and everything seemed fine. Had jurassic park DVD in and 5.1 dts sounded great. I then popped in ice age 3 Blu for my son but its only showing 5.1? Only way I'm able to get it to use back channels is switching to pliix cinema? What I don't get is isn't the left group of speakers on the display the source and the right side is the active? Shouldn't the 7.1 show on the left as its a dts hd 7.1 track? Ideally it should automatically choose 7.1 without having to switch to the pliix cinema mode?
post #20953 of 21928
Did you select the DTS 7.1 track on the BD otherwise it likely defaulted to 5.1?
post #20954 of 21928
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Originally Posted by jdsmoothie View Post

Did you select the DTS 7.1 track on the BD otherwise it likely defaulted to 5.1?
It is selected to 7.1 in the audio track. When I checked status it showed as 5.1 on the 4311
post #20955 of 21928
If the left panel display is only showing 5 CH, then only 5CH are being received from the BD.
post #20956 of 21928
Optical/coaxial instead of HDMI???
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Tu
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Originally Posted by Splicer010 View Post

Optical/coaxial instead of HDMI???
Turns out the Panasonic bluray was set to decode since avr before could only support PCM (onkyo sr803)
post #20958 of 21928
Well, it looks like I will be sending this one back too. SO FRUSTRATING. It keeps shutting off. Man I have never had a single problem out of my REFURB 3311, knock on wood, and this is the second defective 4311. It automatically cuts off when you turn it up even slightly. It starts flashing red around the power button. I'm NOT talking about turning it up loud. I'm talking about just turning up music loud enough to hear it in multi channel mode.
post #20959 of 21928
Is the power light flashing rapidly (ie. every 1/2 sec) or slower (every 2 sec)? Have you visually checked every speaker post to ensure there are no loose wire strands touching a nearby post? Have any in wall wiring that may have been punctured by a nail?
post #20960 of 21928
Fast flash of red. All speaker wires are secure and I'm using screw type banana plugs. Haven't touched anything since sending the last one back. The only thing wrong with last one was that it wouldn't connect to the network. It never shut off like this one. I did a microprocessor reset first. I will post results.

Update:

I reran Audyssey. One of the front wide speakers went from +3.5 level to -1.5! It's not cutting off for the time being. Maybe something went wrong in the setup.

Thanks to everyone who chimed in to help. Great thread.
Edited by thevolumnus - 2/10/13 at 3:54pm
post #20961 of 21928
Quick question regarding AirPlay working with the 1713.

I've got the AVR hardwired to the Modem. I'm able to connect to the network, get Pandora, internet radio, all that jazz.

I'm also able to get my iphone, and stream music from that to the receiver.

However I can't get iTunes on my laptop to stream music to the receiver. That's wireless, just like the iPhone, so I shouldnt have an issue there.

I've allowed iTunes to get through the firewall, so thats not blocked there.

Any ideas?

Thanks.
post #20962 of 21928
^^
You posted in the 4311CI Owner's thread ... suggest "cut" the post and then delete it using the "red x" in the lower left corner of your post and then paste it in the Denon AVR-XX13 Owner's thread linked in my sig. Thanks.
post #20963 of 21928
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Originally Posted by thevolumnus View Post

Well, it looks like I will be sending this one back too. SO FRUSTRATING. It keeps shutting off. Man I have never had a single problem out of my REFURB 3311, knock on wood, and this is the second defective 4311. It automatically cuts off when you turn it up even slightly. It starts flashing red around the power button. I'm NOT talking about turning it up loud. I'm talking about just turning up music loud enough to hear it in multi channel mode.

Check your ohms setting. Make sure its on 4 ....not 6 or 8 !!
post #20964 of 21928
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Originally Posted by Dyonopses View Post

Check your ohms setting. Make sure its on 4 ....not 6 or 8 !!

shouldn't make a lick of difference under normal use. Sounds like a little bit of stray wire is shorting something out, and the usual recommendation is to carefully check all the speaker connections.
post #20965 of 21928
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Originally Posted by JHAz View Post

shouldn't make a lick of difference under normal use. Sounds like a little bit of stray wire is shorting something out, and the usual recommendation is to carefully check all the speaker connections.

It makes a BIG difference. My 4311 was shutting down all the time until I changed the ohms setting.
post #20966 of 21928
Anyone here interested in swapping Anthem MRX-700 for a 4 month old Denon 4311ci? I cannot get used to the Denon sound coming from Marantz equipment and am thinking of giving Anthem amps a try. I have Paradigm reference speakers so it may be a good setup for the speakers also. If interested send me a PM and we can discuss.
post #20967 of 21928
My speakers are 8ohms, and the receiver is set to 8ohms. I had the same speakers hooked to my 3311 for well over a year at 8ohms, and I never had a single problem with shutoffs. I think the problem is now corrected. Something went wrong with the first Audyssey auto setup IMO. One of the speaker levels was way too high.
post #20968 of 21928
Hi there,

I have a Denon 4311CI, and have run Audyssey a couple of months back, but i guess some settings have changed by mistake.. i am not sure, although i was going through the avr's menu option today and and saw this.

Under Manual Setup > Speaker Setup > Speaker config these were the values.
Front - Small - 80Hz
Center - Small - 90Hz
Surround - Small - 120Hz
Surround Back - Small - 120Hz

And in the Audyssey Auto Setup > Parameter check > Speaker Config check it shows
Front - Large - Full band
Center - Small - 80Hz
Surround - Small 80Hz
Surround Back - Small - 90Hz

I am not sure what this means, and actually whats been read by the avr? I have set the MultEQ to MultEQ XT32 all the time.
Whats happening?

The speakers i have is a
Def Tech Mythos ST fronts
Mythos 10 center (will be upgrading this to cs-8080)
Gem XL rear
Promonitor 1000 for surround back.
post #20969 of 21928
Sounds like you changed the audyssey settings. That's up to you obviously. Nothing wrong with raising the crossovers after audyssey if you prefer it.
post #20970 of 21928
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Originally Posted by Sdiver2489 View Post

Sounds like you changed the audyssey settings. That's up to you obviously. Nothing wrong with raising the crossovers after audyssey if you prefer it.

Out of these two above, which are the ones that are working in effect right now? I am confused.
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