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post #21421 of 23159
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Originally Posted by jtokach View Post

Just an FYI for documentation's sake if anyone else has this issue. It's uncanny the similarities in our equipment (Onkyo 809 moving to Denon 4311, Epson 8100, Samsung DLP, 24' Monoprice HDMI). I had the exact same issue. I moved the projector close to the 4311, connected a 6' HDMI cable and all worked fine, so the large gauge Monoprice cables are at fault. I then moved the projector back and put the Monoprice 402E HDMI Matrix switch in between the 6' and 24' HDMI cables and that also solved the problem.

I purchase a 30' Monoprice Redmere cable, and connected it from the 4311 direct to the 8100 and it now works fine without a switch.
I know that folks here love Monoprice cables, but I've had nothing but problems with them for anything over 10 feet. I stopped buying them years ago. Instead, I've found a low-cost alternative in Bluerigger cables. I've got several 30 and 50 ft. cables in use and all of them work great. I get them at Amazon, but not sure if they can be purchased anywhere else. (http://goo.gl/ofHh6)
post #21422 of 23159
Over the past 7 years I have bought numerous Monoprice cables of all types including a 35' HDMI and a 40' fiber cable. So far no problems or failures. smile.gif I do always buy the best of any they have which is still far less then anywhere else. Just my experience.
post #21423 of 23159
I run 100% monoprice cables in complete confidence. In all fairness, the cable in question worked flawlessly with my Onkyo 809, so something else is at play. The OP I quoted had nearly identical equipment, and when we inserted the 4311, things went sour. Either way, there's not enough information to blame either the 4311,the 809 or the cable. My statement above reads as though the cable is the problem, when in fact, swapping the cable may have simply overcame the barrier to success.
post #21424 of 23159
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Originally Posted by jtokach View Post

I purchase a 30' Monoprice Redmere cable, and connected it from the 4311

I'm also using a Redmere (60') between my 4311 and PJ--works great.
post #21425 of 23159
MultEQ XT32...WOW!!! eek.gif

4311CI vs. 4310CI...WOW!!! eek.gif

How grateful I am Denon did what was right...WOW!!! eek.gif

Denon cust for life...You betcha!!! biggrin.gif

THANKYOU DENON for making it [finally] alright!!! Flawless in every way, volume control, no picture flashing, all the HDMI inputs work...I am so ecstatic to be able to view Ten Commandments this weekend! cool.gif
post #21426 of 23159
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Originally Posted by jtokach View Post


My basement getaway! I did all of the cabinetry myself ~10 years ago, when my wife was weeks away from delivering our first born. I was never satisfied with it due to the rush, so I'm ripping it all out this summer. Here's some sketchup shots. This time I'm around, wiser, I'm going to try something new. Like pulling permits and building to code. rolleyes.gif

Looks awesome, but if you are ripping up and building a man cave from scratch, make sure to think about room acoustics. For example, decorative acoustics panels on the rock walls behind the speakers, and some more panels on the side walls and/or ceiling. Also potentially bass traps in the corners.

The luxury of the basement man cave is that you don't have to make as many compromises as in the living room biggrin.gif
post #21427 of 23159
As I see all these wonderful HT photos and dream rooms, I get the feeling that no one out there in HT land has cats.
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post #21428 of 23159
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Originally Posted by blipszyc View Post

I know that folks here love Monoprice cables, but I've had nothing but problems with them for anything over 10 feet. I stopped buying them years ago. Instead, I've found a low-cost alternative in Bluerigger cables. I've got several 30 and 50 ft. cables in use and all of them work great. I get them at Amazon, but not sure if they can be purchased anywhere else. (http://goo.gl/ofHh6)
Fwiw, that brand is less expensive than monoprice. You may be onto something!
post #21429 of 23159
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Originally Posted by jtokach View Post

Fwiw, that brand is less expensive than monoprice. You may be onto something!
Careful on comparisons - the Redmere cables are active cables and therefore more expensive than normal Monoprice HDMI cables. Those BlueRigger cables use 30AWG (very thin) wire and don't appear to be active cables. The closest Monoprice option to the BlueRigger cables would probably be their Metallic Series High Speed HDMI Male to Male Cables with Ethernet which use 28AWG wire. In that comparison, Monoprice is $8.93 for 10 feet and BlueRigger is $8.49 for 10 feet, so pretty much a wash.
post #21430 of 23159
Ah, good point. I didn't catch that.
post #21431 of 23159
Well, I'm officially a proud owner of a Denon 4311CI........biggrin.gif


post #21432 of 23159
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Originally Posted by cr136124 View Post

Well, I'm officially a proud owner of a Denon 4311CI........biggrin.gif


 

 

Only a silly person would buy one of those things. Congrats buddy.

post #21433 of 23159
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Originally Posted by XStanleyX View Post

Only a silly person would buy one of those things. Congrats buddy.

LOL.

Thanks Stanley!

I'm currently upgrading the firmware on the receiver and right after that............Audyssey.

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post #21434 of 23159
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Originally Posted by gsr View Post

Careful on comparisons - the Redmere cables are active cables and therefore more expensive than normal Monoprice HDMI cables. Those BlueRigger cables use 30AWG (very thin) wire and don't appear to be active cables. The closest Monoprice option to the BlueRigger cables would probably be their Metallic Series High Speed HDMI Male to Male Cables with Ethernet which use 28AWG wire. In that comparison, Monoprice is $8.93 for 10 feet and BlueRigger is $8.49 for 10 feet, so pretty much a wash.
Totally off topic, but newegg has had 6' 10' and 15' redmere cables for free after MIR. They have been running the deals frequently for the last month or two with different rebate offers so you can get more than one. So far, I have accumulated six 6' six 10' and six 15' and all that I have tested have worked great. I reallllllllly like the fact that they are super light weight and not super heavy like my old ones..
post #21435 of 23159
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Originally Posted by cr136124 View Post

LOL.

Thanks Stanley!

I'm currently upgrading the firmware on the receiver and right after that............Audyssey.

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At home...........finally!



post #21436 of 23159
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Originally Posted by cr136124 View Post

At home...........finally!




Saw your gallery, very clean looing setup!!!
post #21437 of 23159
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Originally Posted by cavchameleon View Post

Saw your gallery, very clean looing setup!!!

Thanks!!!
post #21438 of 23159
I like to see all my stuff too. I understand why people rack it or go for a more stealthy/austere look in the cabinetry, but I just like to see the soft glow of untamed power.
post #21439 of 23159

Yep, that's a beautiful setup. Really something to be proud of. Except for that silly receiver. biggrin.gif

post #21440 of 23159
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Originally Posted by batpig View Post

Looks awesome, but if you are ripping up and building a man cave from scratch, make sure to think about room acoustics. For example, decorative acoustics panels on the rock walls behind the speakers, and some more panels on the side walls and/or ceiling. Also potentially bass traps in the corners.

The luxury of the basement man cave is that you don't have to make as many compromises as in the living room biggrin.gif

Yes, everybody preaches the benefits of room treatments. Getting my mains back a few inches should move the first reflection to a treatable wall space. Now, the stone behind the mains, that I have questions and reservations. I'd hate to cover nice stone especially when I shine a light down it for a really nice effect. While it may be OT, you opened the can of worms: biggrin.gif

1. Would not a rough and highly irregular surface such as raw stacked stone wall act as a mild diffuser?
2. My mains are bipolar. Wouldn't putting an absorbtive panel behind them work against what the benefits the bipoles are trying to achieve?
3. How do you calculate the second reflection of the rear speakers in a bipole? I don't think I want that treated, per question 2.

Like I said above, XT32 "fixed" something to make these mains image much better, or perhaps just increased the size of the sweet spot. Whatever it is, it's glorious.
post #21441 of 23159
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Originally Posted by Splicer010 View Post

MultEQ XT32...WOW!!! eek.gif

4311CI vs. 4310CI...WOW!!! eek.gif

How grateful I am Denon did what was right...WOW!!! eek.gif

Denon cust for life...You betcha!!! biggrin.gif

THANKYOU DENON for making it [finally] alright!!! Flawless in every way, volume control, no picture flashing, all the HDMI inputs work...I am so ecstatic to be able to view Ten Commandments this weekend! cool.gif

Isn't XT32 amazing?! Love, love, love it. (BTW, we just made to the intermission of Ben Hur. 'Tis the season!)
post #21442 of 23159
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Originally Posted by Darin View Post

Does anyone have a solution to the issue where net radio gets "stuck" playing? Sometimes (fairly often) it will continue streaming even after I turn it off. I've had cases where hitting stop doesn't stop it. I have to switch to another station, then stop it.

Alright, I've had my fill of butt slappin' and high-fives for today, so down to work. Is there a fix for this? I completely powered off only to discover 2.5 hours later when I went to start a new streaming session that the old stream was still running. For the record or those keeping score at home, this is undesirable. rolleyes.gif
post #21443 of 23159
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Originally Posted by jtokach View Post

Alright, I've had my fill of butt slappin' and high-fives for today, so down to work. Is there a fix for this? I completely powered off only to discover 2.5 hours later when I went to start a new streaming session that the old stream was still running. For the record or those keeping score at home, this is undesirable. rolleyes.gif


You have to press the stop button and completely back out of the streaming/server connection.
post #21444 of 23159
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Originally Posted by jtokach View Post

I like to see all my stuff too. I understand why people rack it or go for a more stealthy/austere look in the cabinetry, but I just like to see the soft glow of untamed power.

Glad to hear I'm not the only one.....wink.gif

I can easy put everything on a rack on the other side of the wall (storage area at my basement). But as you, I do really enjoy looking at the AV gear in my room.
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Originally Posted by XStanleyX View Post

Yep, that's a beautiful setup. Really something to be proud of. Except for that silly receiver. biggrin.gif

C'mon man.........don't be mean with the rookie (new receiver)......tongue.gif
post #21445 of 23159
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Originally Posted by cr136124 View Post

Glad to hear I'm not the only one.....wink.gif

I can easy put everything on a rack on the other side of the wall (storage area at my basement). But as you, I do really enjoy looking at the AV gear in my room.
When listening to music or watching TV with the lights on in the room, I'd agree that it's kind of nice to see the gear and lights. But when watching movies with the room lights off, I don't want to be distracted by all the various indicators on all the gear.
post #21446 of 23159
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Originally Posted by gsr View Post

When listening to music or watching TV with the lights on in the room, I'd agree that it's kind of nice to see the gear and lights. But when watching movies with the room lights off, I don't want to be distracted by all the various indicators on all the gear.

Totally valid point!

I guess the reason is not distracting for me is that all the amps are at the bottom of the A/V console and I do have a coffee table that blocks those lights while we are sit at the couch. Yes, I know........I need to get rid of that table to avoid reflections. But man, that is part of the compromise that I have to make in order to keep the wife happy.....................while I'm adding more gear to the room.........wink.gif
post #21447 of 23159
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Originally Posted by jtokach View Post

I like to see all my stuff too. I understand why people rack it or go for a more stealthy/austere look in the cabinetry, but I just like to see the soft glow of untamed power.
Looks better in person but yes, I want to see my $$ also... wink.gif Can't see but the very top t the left is the gigabit switch and to the right is a ROKU2 XS.
post #21448 of 23159
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Originally Posted by gsr View Post

When listening to music or watching TV with the lights on in the room, I'd agree that it's kind of nice to see the gear and lights. But when watching movies with the room lights off, I don't want to be distracted by all the various indicators on all the gear.

Ya, I guess it depends on your gear, the lighting level and the proximity to the display. The Belkin PF60's I have don't dim completely and that bright blue that's in vogue right now seems especially apt at catching your eye. (Marketing 1, Consumers 0, Engineers -1) I've been meaning to buy some automotive window tint for those and my BD player which doesn't dim at all. On a related note, I used a red gel filter and a hole punch to turn the bright green LEDs on my Carvers to a better matching and much toned down shade of orange. (...which my kids immediately found and peeled off.)
post #21449 of 23159
eek.gif OMG!!! eek.gif

This thing is soooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo friggen greaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaattttttttt!!!! biggrin.gifcool.gif

The Pandora app just sounds leaps and bounds better than my LG BD streamer and Roku2 XS!!! BAMM!!! The web interface is so damn snappy/responsive compared to the 4310 sluggish/slow web interface! cool.gif Looks a helluvalot nicer as well...

The dual sub EQ, to me, is worth the price of admission in and of itself...just fabulously smooth, powerfully deep bass now...and I thought it was outstanding (and it was wink.gif ) with the 4310...Make no mistake, the 4310 is no slouch by any means as long as it is working...but this 4311 is not just taken the bar to the next level, rather 4 or 5 levels! Just an an amazing piece of equipment that I now understand all the hype built up around it...

Watched 'Skyfall' last nite (1st time) and the 4311 just didn't miss a beat! Ten Commandments tonite! cool.gif
post #21450 of 23159
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Originally Posted by jtokach View Post


Ya, I guess it depends on your gear, the lighting level and the proximity to the display. The Belkin PF60's I have don't dim completely and that bright blue that's in vogue right now seems especially apt at catching your eye. (Marketing 1, Consumers 0, Engineers -1) I've been meaning to buy some automotive window tint for those and my BD player which doesn't dim at all. On a related note, I used a red gel filter and a hole punch to turn the bright green LEDs on my Carvers to a better matching and much toned down shade of orange. (...which my kids immediately found and peeled off.)

 

This is what you need:  http://www.lightdims.com/store.htm

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