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post #21631 of 23164
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Originally Posted by SoundofMind View Post

What value did autosetup assign to the sub ch trim in the AVR? Did you reset any/all "Large" speakers to Small?
Hi the auto setup gave a value of -6db for the sub and i changed all speakers to small

Audyssey does some stupid things some times, it will detect my rear effects as small but assign 40hz to them
post #21632 of 23164
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Originally Posted by batpig View Post

One thing you didn't mention is your bass management. A very likely cause of low bass output after Audyssey is that your main speakers were either set to "large" or were set with a very low crossover. Make sure all speakers are "Small" with at minimum an 80Hz crossover so you know the bass is being redirected to the sub.

Hi Batpig

The first thing i do after running audyssey is change all speakers to small and crossover points to 80Hz, i mentioned in an earlier post that Audyssey does silly things from time to time and detects my rear effects as small but assigns 40Hz to them:eek:
Edited by davesendor - 4/28/13 at 5:26pm
post #21633 of 23164
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Originally Posted by davesendor View Post

Hi Batpig

The first thing i do after running audyssey is change all speakers to large and crossover points to 80Hz, i mentioned in an earlier post that Audyssey does silly things from time to time and detects my rear effects as small but assigns 40Hz to them:eek:

You should change the Mains to small if they are set to large, not the other way around. Unless you don't have a sub.
post #21634 of 23164
Agreed. Make sure all speakers are "small" and bump up the crossover so more bass is sent to the sub. Also, despite all the back and forth, don't be afraid to adjust your sub gain. Audyssey is a good starting point, but sometimes needs tweaking, whether at the AVR side or the sub side. Do whatever you need to do to make it sound good TO YOU. Think of the initial settings as guidelines. In the end, you have to enjoy the sound because you're the one listening to it.
post #21635 of 23164
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Originally Posted by davesendor View Post

Hi Batpig

The first thing i do after running audyssey is change all speakers to large and crossover points to 80Hz, i mentioned in an earlier post that Audyssey does silly things from time to time and detects my rear effects as small but assigns 40Hz to them:eek:

Note that setting a speaker to LARGE will disable the bass management such that nothing gets sent to the sub, rather the speaker plays the full range signal. So as already suggested, if the AVR sets a speaker to LARGE, reset it to SMALL/80Hz and raise any other SMALL speakers up to 80Hz, leaving those set > 80Hz alone. Review the Audyssey 101/FAQ Guide linked in my sig for a better understanding of this process.
post #21636 of 23164
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Originally Posted by davesendor View Post

Hi the auto setup gave a value of -6db for the sub and i changed all speakers to small .

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Originally Posted by davesendor View Post

Hi Batpig

The first thing i do after running audyssey is change all speakers to large and crossover points to 80Hz, i mentioned in an earlier post that Audyssey does silly things from time to time and detects my rear effects as small but assigns 40Hz to them:eek:
So Large is a typo in your answer to batpig?
post #21637 of 23164
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Originally Posted by blipszyc View Post

Agreed. Make sure all speakers are "small" and bump up the crossover so more bass is sent to the sub. Also, despite all the back and forth, don't be afraid to adjust your sub gain. Audyssey is a good starting point, but sometimes needs tweaking, whether at the AVR side or the sub side. Do whatever you need to do to make it sound good TO YOU. Think of the initial settings as guidelines. In the end, you have to enjoy the sound because you're the one listening to it.
Geeze, give it a rest on the sub vol control knob, man.smile.gif
The OP has batpig and jd helping him sort it out. First we need to get his bass mgmt facts straight.
post #21638 of 23164
smile.gif
Edited by Glenn Baumann - 4/27/13 at 6:08pm
post #21639 of 23164
My 4311 was working perfectly Thursday night. Today I turn it on and no signal--no video to the TV and no audio either. I cycled power a few times and was able to get video from the cable and PS3 about half the time but no audio regardless of source. Additionally, neither the volume on the remote or on the 4311 itself works. The volume is set to come on at -25.0 and that's where it stays. Any ideas as to what the problem may be?
post #21640 of 23164
^Hoping it's random computer craziness, voltage surge, etc...I'd reset the microprocessor.
post #21641 of 23164
I disconnected the power cord for a bit and when I powered up again it worked. Sorry, I should have tried that before posting a question. Thankfully a reset wasn't required.
post #21642 of 23164
^^
A soft reset (ie. unplugging power cable) should generally always be the first troubleshooting step. smile.gif
post #21643 of 23164
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Originally Posted by SoundofMind View Post

Geeze, give it a rest on the sub vol control knob, man.smile.gif
The OP has batpig and jd helping him sort it out. First we need to get his bass mgmt facts straight.
Boy, I guess since I don't have the AVS Club logo under my name I can't share my opinion.
post #21644 of 23164
I just got a new 4311 from my 7005 and when I hooked everything up I am getting a hum out of my sub. I have opened up a discussion as well on Seaton Forum too, but thought I would post here as well.

When I moved my sub about 5 feet along a side wall I must have accidentialy ripped the power cable connections from the blue plug on the sub. I rewired that according to a schematic online and it looks to be fine. But when I plugged the sub in I get this hum only when the unit is off. When on no hum and all seems to be good. I plugged the avr into my panamax and I also use the pre out with my emotiva xpa 5, but that is only running the 5.0 speakers and no hum from them. I did not have this hum with my Marantz.

So not sure where this could have come about. Any suggestions? I really want to run Audyssey and get listening and the fact that the hum is not there when on, I am sure I am ok, but when the house is quite, I don't want to hear this low hum.

Thoughts?

Thanks
post #21645 of 23164
Ground hum...
post #21646 of 23164
I figure ground hum, but even where to start or possible 'typical' culprits?
post #21647 of 23164
Ensure that the 4311 and sub are grounded to the same ground point if possible. The sub cable is sometimes not enough to 'bond' the 2 together...
post #21648 of 23164
As a last resort put the sub on a power saver type strip so that it only gets power when the 4311 is on.

Edit: andd count yourself lucky that it is not the other way around. smile.gif
post #21649 of 23164
Not looking to get into a price discussion, but rather; does anyone have experience with 4311s from A4Less (the refurbished units)?

I am growing weary of trying to optimize multiple subs via the single output from my Marantz 7002 (and a Velodyne SMS-1).
The Marantz has been great, however; I also have a serious upgradeitis bug chewing at me smile.gif
post #21650 of 23164
Can't say about A4L...but I got a refurb as a warranty replacement and it has been flawless, I seriously could not be more pleased with this unit. cool.gifbiggrin.gif
post #21651 of 23164
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Originally Posted by cuzed2 View Post

Not looking to get into a price discussion, but rather; does anyone have experience with 4311s from A4Less (the refurbished units)?

I am growing weary of trying to optimize multiple subs via the single output from my Marantz 7002 (and a Velodyne SMS-1).
The Marantz has been great, however; I also have a serious upgradeitis bug chewing at me smile.gif

 

 

I bought a refurb 4311 from them. It has two very small marks on the right front corner and one on left front corner about the size of a grain of rice. The manual was obviously used and had a stain on the front cover. Both remotes looked like new. I used a black marker on the marks. I decided to keep it instead of playing Russian roulette and possibly getting one that had a function that didn't work. It has worked flawlessly. A4Less has no idea what's in the box. It could be a brick for all they know. They just sell what they get from Denon.

post #21652 of 23164
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Originally Posted by cuzed2 View Post

Not looking to get into a price discussion, but rather; does anyone have experience with 4311s from A4Less (the refurbished units)?

I am growing weary of trying to optimize multiple subs via the single output from my Marantz 7002 (and a Velodyne SMS-1).
The Marantz has been great, however; I also have a serious upgradeitis bug chewing at me smile.gif

I just had one delivered on Friday from A4less. Waiting on some subwoofer cables that are to be delivered tomorrow to setup the unit next weekend. I'm upgrading from a Yamaha RX-V1800 to the 4311.
post #21653 of 23164
Thanks Gang, appreciate your inputs!
post #21654 of 23164
Quick question:

Can someone recommend me an app to stream music from my android phone to the 4311?

I tried Twonky Beam and Skifta, but none of them are able to see the Denon. Or, is some an additional setup required at 4311?

Yes, Android phone (GS2 Skyrocket) and Denon are hooked to the same network.

TIA!
post #21655 of 23164

My son used to use imediashare with his S2 but after seeing what my iPod does he gave in and got an iPod. He still uses imediashare for movies only. I've never used it.


Edited by XStanleyX - 4/28/13 at 11:40am
post #21656 of 23164
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Originally Posted by hometheatergeek View Post

I just had one delivered on Friday from A4less. Waiting on some subwoofer cables that are to be delivered tomorrow to setup the unit next weekend. I'm upgrading from a Yamaha RX-V1800 to the 4311.

Congrats! You are going to love the 4311 running two subs. 4311 is pretty amazing. Decided to skip the 4520 because I simply love the 4311 and did not need the few extra features on the 4520. Show us some pics when you are up and running.
post #21657 of 23164
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Originally Posted by batpig View Post

Well, if you need to goose your subs 12-14dB (!!!!) from where Audyssey sets them, then I would suggest there is some deeper issue. I don't think that's a particularly instructive case for other folks as it clearly falls outside of the bounds of "normal" operation and doesn't really argue against the "best practice" of making the changes in the receiver. Obviously, if you want/need THAT much room for upward adjustment then it's hard to do it in the receiver.

+1 on Batpig's advice. Thank you, Batpig, for hanging in there with us on the 4311!!!!
post #21658 of 23164
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Originally Posted by Rhetor View Post

Congrats! You are going to love the 4311 running two subs. 4311 is pretty amazing. Decided to skip the 4520 because I simply love the 4311 and did not need the few extra features on the 4520. Show us some pics when you are up and running.

Thanks Rhetor,

Correction, I have 3 HSU ULS-15s and a old Velodyne used more like a transducer between my recliners for a Quad subwoofer system. biggrin.gif I looked at the 4520 and the Marantz 8801 but it was way beyond my meager budget. See my signature for my system configuration or click here.
post #21659 of 23164
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Originally Posted by jconjason View Post

You should change the Mains to small if they are set to large, not the other way around. Unless you don't have a sub.

Sorry that was a mistake, all speakers are set to small

Thats what happens when you get lazy and cut and paste answer:mad:s
post #21660 of 23164
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Originally Posted by SoundofMind View Post


So Large is a typo in your answer to batpig?

Yes large was a typo sorry about that
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