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post #22141 of 23179
Ive been looking for an excuse to buy a OppO BDP-105
now i have one thx for the help i appreciate it
Edited by HAmmer32261 - 7/6/13 at 5:06pm
post #22142 of 23179
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Originally Posted by HAmmer32261 View Post

Ive been looking for an excuse to buy a OppO BDP-105
now i have one thx for the help i appreciate it

Not sure what you mean. You want to use 105's DACs just to feed 4311's ADCs, apply Audyssey, then go through 4311's DACs?.. Or you're skipping Audyssey altogether just to avoid having to downsample your FLACs once? Your downsampled FLACs will sound identical to the original ones. Moreover, a significant fraction of HDTracks 96/192 kHz content is just upsampled from 44.1kHz.
post #22143 of 23179
Here's a little guide to downsampling FLACs for playback on 4311. (Obviously, a better alternative is to just get 88.2kHz / 96kHz versions from HDTracks if available.)

Install latest foobar2000 from http://www.foobar2000.org/download
Install SoX mod2 resampler from http://www.hydrogenaudio.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=67373
Install FLAC 1.2.1 from http://xiph.org/flac/download.html

In foobar2000, open your FLACs, select them, right click, "Convert", "...". Now you're in the "Converter Setup".

Output format: Encoder - FLAC, Compression - Level 8 (or whatever you prefer), Output bit depth - Auto, Dither - Never.
Destination is personal preference, but this is what I use: Output path - Specify folder, If file already exists - Ask, Output style - Convert each track to an individual file, Name format - %tracknumber%. %title%
Processing: Additional decoding - checked, ReplayGain - None, Active DSPs - Resampler (SoX) mod2, Don't reset DSP between tracks - unchecked.
Configure DSP: Target samplerate - Downsample x2, Quality - Best, Resample ONLY frequencies: 176400;192000, Passband - 95%, Allow aliasing/imaging - unchecked (or checked, depends on your preference re: ringing vs. aliasing, but should be inaudible anyway), Phase response - 50%.
Other: Preview generation - unchecked, When done Show full status report - checked, ReplayGain scan - unchecked, Transfer attached pictures - checked.

Click "Save" to save the preset, name it "Downsample x2". Now every time you want to downsample some FLACs, just open them in foobar2000, select all, right click, "Convert", "Downsample x2". You should check the full status report that is shown after the conversion: some FLACs from HDTracks are poorly authored and will give errors.
Edited by Kisakuku - 7/7/13 at 9:17am
post #22144 of 23179
Hello everyone

I have a 1 year old Denon 4311ci receiver I use for my home theater via a projector.

A few days ago, I couldnt get any video to play on the projector, not the dvd, sat, or even the video from the denon menu screen.

I bypassed the receiver, ran plenty of tests with different wires, etc and it appears that the entire issue is that the (2 HDMI outputs on the back of the Denon 4311 simply stopped working) I can using component cables, etc, but both HDMI ports wont produce any video so basically they way my system is wired, I am without a theater until I can get the receiver either fixed or replaced.

Has anyone heard of this, had an issue with this, or have any solutions? I did a hard restart on the receiver, unplugged it overnight, etc and nothing seems to work.

Thanks

Mark
post #22145 of 23179
Same issue here, well almost. Mine won't switch the hdmi outputs when a signal is sent to them. It's stuck on one output, or the second is simply broken. Someone suggested a soft reset, which hasn't yielded any results. I hate to do a hard reset and lose all my settings. Why can't companies make a damn product that works properly? Sorry I can't answer your question, but let us know if you resolve the issue.
post #22146 of 23179
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Originally Posted by Daffypuck View Post

I hate to do a hard reset and lose all my settings.

Do a network save first.
post #22147 of 23179
I didn't know you can do that!
post #22148 of 23179
post #22149 of 23179
Could use help in rerunning xt32 for my 7.2 system...live 45 miles west of chicago(5 miles nw of randall rd/hwy 64)...if you have mastered your 4311 and are interested in sharing your knowledge in such please pm me...jpr
post #22150 of 23179
Thanx smoothie. I talked to a Denon tech today while I was at work. I think I figured out what may be wrong, plus he also told me how to save the settings to my PC. I'll give it a try when I get home from work.
post #22151 of 23179
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Originally Posted by Cobra5wood View Post

Could use help in rerunning xt32 for my 7.2 system...live 45 miles west of chicago(5 miles nw of randall rd/hwy 64)...if you have mastered your 4311 and are interested in sharing your knowledge in such please pm me...jpr


If you don't get any takers we'll do our best to help out remotely here on the thread. 

 

Usually a drawing with measurements and some pics of the room, along with any  specific questions, concerns, goals etc is a good start.

post #22152 of 23179
I have been trying to find an internet radio station that exist on my computer but I am unable to find the site on my 4311. Is there a way to manually enter a internet radio site instead of picking them from a limited list on the 4311?
post #22153 of 23179
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Originally Posted by nitebell View Post

I have been trying to find an internet radio station that exist on my computer but I am unable to find the site on my 4311. Is there a way to manually enter a internet radio site instead of picking them from a limited list on the 4311?

Check p.37 in the user manual. You can register your favorite radio stations at http:/www.radiodenon.com I have also used my iPad to select specific stations and playback through the Denon via the DaRemote app.
post #22154 of 23179
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Originally Posted by Kisakuku View Post

Here's a little guide to downsampling FLACs for playback on 4311. (Obviously, a better alternative is to just get 88.2kHz / 96kHz versions from HDTracks if available.)

Turned out my cheapo BDP (Sony BDP-S5100) provides another alternative for 176.4 / 192 kHz FLAC playback on 4311 (as well as multichannel FLAC playback) if downsampling is undesirable. Effectively, the BDP circumvents the limitations of 4311's media decoder chip and passes decoded LPCM to 4311 over HDMI. Audyssey is applied, no extra DAC-ACD steps are involved, no need for OPPO 105 (or 103 for that matter).
post #22155 of 23179
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Originally Posted by ggsantafe View Post

Check p.37 in the user manual. You can register your favorite radio stations at http:/www.radiodenon.com I have also used my iPad to select specific stations and playback through the Denon via the DaRemote app.

The question was "Is there a way to manually enter a internet radio site instead of picking them from a limited list on the 4311?"


Unless I am missing something, their are no more stations @ http:/www.radiodenon.com than what is offered on the 4311, same list. vTuner does not offer a way to manually enter a station/site such as http://superbluesradio.com/ and p37 mentions nothing about manually typing in a station address.
post #22156 of 23179
Originally Posted by ggsantafe View Post

Check p.37 in the user manual. You can register your favorite radio stations at http:/www.radiodenon.com I have also used my iPad to select specific stations and playback through the Denon via the DaRemote app.

The question was "Is there a way to manually enter a internet radio site instead of picking them from a limited list on the 4311?"


Unless I am missing something, their are no more stations @ http:/www.radiodenon.com than what is offered on the 4311, same list. vTuner does not offer a way to manually enter a station/site such as http://superbluesradio.com/ and p37 mentions nothing about manually typing in a station address.

Nitebell - It requires some effort - but you can manually add stations on the www.radiodenon.com site. Try the following:
1. In the 4311 menu go to Internet Radio - select "RadioDenon" and then find your "ID". Then go back to www.radiodenon.com on your computer and enter your Radio ID and complete registratiion (user ID/password)
2. Follow the instructions for adding a station not already listed in Radio Denon. You'll be prompted to provide Station Name, URL, location, Genre - Press Go, and then go back to your 4311 menu, Find the RadioDenon tab, and under Added Stations you'll find the new selection. I just added SuperBlues Radio using this procedure - pretty cool station by the way
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Edited by ggsantafe - 7/12/13 at 7:15am
post #22157 of 23179
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Originally Posted by ggsantafe View Post

Originally Posted by ggsantafe View Post

Check p.37 in the user manual. You can register your favorite radio stations at http:/www.radiodenon.com I have also used my iPad to select specific stations and playback through the Denon via the DaRemote app.

The question was "Is there a way to manually enter a internet radio site instead of picking them from a limited list on the 4311?"


Unless I am missing something, their are no more stations @ http:/www.radiodenon.com than what is offered on the 4311, same list. vTuner does not offer a way to manually enter a station/site such as http://superbluesradio.com/ and p37 mentions nothing about manually typing in a station address.

Nitebell - It requires some effort - but you can manually add stations on the www.radiodenon.com site. Try the following:
1. In the 4311 menu go to Internet Radio - select "RadioDenon" and then find your "ID". Then go back to www.radiodenon.com on your computer and enter your Radio ID and complete registratiion (user ID/password)
2. Follow the instructions for adding a station not already listed in Radio Denon. You'll be prompted to provide Station Name, URL, location, Genre - Press Go, and then go back to your 4311 menu, Find the RadioDenon tab, and under Added Stations you'll find the new selection. I just added SuperBlues Radio using this procedure - pretty cool station by the way
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Thank You for your guidance and patents. I have got as far as having the station appear on my 4311 but when I go to access the station I get a "File Format Error" . Glad you got yours to work and enjoy the station, IMHO it blows Bellyup4blues away! Have any idea what I'm doing wrong?
post #22158 of 23179
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Originally Posted by nitebell View Post

Thank You for your guidance and patents. I have got as far as having the station appear on my 4311 but when I go to access the station I get a "File Format Error" . Glad you got yours to work and enjoy the station, IMHO it blows Bellyup4blues away! Have any idea what I'm doing wrong?

It looks like there is a problem loading the URL for the station - the VTuner seems to need a dedicated URL in this format: http://62.168.116.98:8000/dsp1) while the SuperBlues URL looks like this: http://player.radioloyalty.com/station/4489.html. I've tried sending an email to the RadioLoyalty site but it doesn't look like it went through. I've been able to listen on my PC but get the same "File Format" error you get on the 4311 - bummer - let me know if you work out a solution.
post #22159 of 23179
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Originally Posted by ggsantafe View Post

It looks like there is a problem loading the URL for the station - the VTuner seems to need a dedicated URL in this format: http://62.168.116.98:8000/dsp1) while the SuperBlues URL looks like this: http://player.radioloyalty.com/station/4489.html. I've tried sending an email to the RadioLoyalty site but it doesn't look like it went through. I've been able to listen on my PC but get the same "File Format" error you get on the 4311 - bummer - let me know if you work out a solution.
Below is the reply from Radioloyalty support..frown.gif

Hello Paul,

Thank you for your inquiry to Radioloyalty support.mad.gif

Radioloyalty does not offer a stream outside of the player. Doing so drives traffic away from the UniversalPlayer and revenue from the broadcaster as well.

You are welcomed to listen via http://player.radioloyalty.com/station/4489.html and continue supporting Super Blues Radio.

You can also download our Radioloyalty mobile app.
The mobile app is available for IOS users, Android and BlackBerry Tablets as well for free.

Let me know if you have any questions.
Yeah! Why does SuperBluesRadio have to go through you and your player? LOL

Thank you,
Hector Gutierrez (Hablo Español)
Broadcaster Support Manager - www.RadioLoyalty.com

Hector@RadioLoyalty.com
805 308 9152 x 8171 | 1 800 706 1848 x 8171
F: 805 406 0405 | AIM: QaBlackSheep | Skype: Hector.Guti11
My Hours: 6am - 2pm Pacific Standard
Company Hours: 6am – 5pm Pacific Standard
post #22160 of 23179
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Originally Posted by nitebell View Post

Below is the reply from Radioloyalty support..frown.gif

Hello Paul,

Thank you for your inquiry to Radioloyalty support.mad.gif

Radioloyalty does not offer a stream outside of the player. Doing so drives traffic away from the UniversalPlayer and revenue from the broadcaster as well.

You are welcomed to listen via http://player.radioloyalty.com/station/4489.html and continue supporting Super Blues Radio.

You can also download our Radioloyalty mobile app.
The mobile app is available for IOS users, Android and BlackBerry Tablets as well for free.

Let me know if you have any questions.
Yeah! Why does SuperBluesRadio have to go through you and your player? LOL

Thank you,
Hector Gutierrez (Hablo Español)
Broadcaster Support Manager - www.RadioLoyalty.com

Hector@RadioLoyalty.com
805 308 9152 x 8171 | 1 800 706 1848 x 8171
F: 805 406 0405 | AIM: QaBlackSheep | Skype: Hector.Guti11
My Hours: 6am - 2pm Pacific Standard
Company Hours: 6am – 5pm Pacific Standard

Interesting - well there is a work around - you can load the mobile app onto an iPad and connect to the inputs on the front of 4311 and listen via the V.Aux input - not as elegant as listening through the Internet Radio connection - but should produce similar results. Thanks for following up on this issue!
post #22161 of 23179
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Originally Posted by ggsantafe View Post

Interesting - well there is a work around - you can load the mobile app onto an iPad and connect to the inputs on the front of 4311 and listen via the V.Aux input - not as elegant as listening through the Internet Radio connection - but should produce similar results. Thanks for following up on this issue!

Don't have an Iphone but my Motorola Razr has an HDMI output that I connected to one of the 4311's HDMI inputs. The sound was excellent through the 4311, however the cellphone after a while got hotter than a firecracker on the 4th of July, so hot, that the battery started to swell. I really like that station but It's not worth spontaneous combustion. Sure wish there were another way around. cool.gif
post #22162 of 23179

^Try listening to a cooler station.tongue.gif
 

 

Sorry couldn't resist-TGIF! redface.gif

post #22163 of 23179
Need help please!

I've had the 4311 for a couple years. I recently decided to use external amps (I got a good deal on a used Bryston 4BST). Using the Denon Pre Outs, I'm driving the FL&FR with the Bryston and the SL, SR, and C using ADCOM 555IIs. Everything seems to work OK while watching TV. However, when I play SACDs in my OPPO or hi def digital audio (24bit 96K or better) from my HTPC, the left channel drops out after a couple hours playing and it becomes very hot. The Bryston tech suggested I swap the amp's inputs and outputs. I did and had the same problem, but with the right channel. The Bryston tech believes this means left output of the Denon is passing some kind of "high frequency signal that I cannot hear but the amp can reproduce (but with difficulty hence the overheating /thermal outcome)."

Not sure what to do now and hope someone here can offer some advice?

Thanks,
Mike
post #22164 of 23179
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Originally Posted by elinter View Post

Need help please!

I've had the 4311 for a couple years. I recently decided to use external amps (I got a good deal on a used Bryston 4BST). Using the Denon Pre Outs, I'm driving the FL&FR with the Bryston and the SL, SR, and C using ADCOM 555IIs. Everything seems to work OK while watching TV. However, when I play SACDs in my OPPO or hi def digital audio (24bit 96K or better) from my HTPC, the left channel drops out after a couple hours playing and it becomes very hot. The Bryston tech suggested I swap the amp's inputs and outputs. I did and had the same problem, but with the right channel. The Bryston tech believes this means left output of the Denon is passing some kind of "high frequency signal that I cannot hear but the amp can reproduce (but with difficulty hence the overheating /thermal outcome)."

Not sure what to do now and hope someone here can offer some advice?

Thanks,
Mike

 

If you had measuring equipment like REW, you could measure the pre-out signal to see if there was anything unusual happening.

post #22165 of 23179
I do have a REW set up with a TASCAM US-144 MKII interface and Dayton EMM-6 mic. What are you thinking? Is the freq response of the mic good enough to measure freqs that high?
post #22166 of 23179
Quote:
Originally Posted by elinter View Post

Need help please!

I've had the 4311 for a couple years. I recently decided to use external amps (I got a good deal on a used Bryston 4BST). Using the Denon Pre Outs, I'm driving the FL&FR with the Bryston and the SL, SR, and C using ADCOM 555IIs. Everything seems to work OK while watching TV. However, when I play SACDs in my OPPO or hi def digital audio (24bit 96K or better) from my HTPC, the left channel drops out after a couple hours playing and it becomes very hot. The Bryston tech suggested I swap the amp's inputs and outputs. I did and had the same problem, but with the right channel. The Bryston tech believes this means left output of the Denon is passing some kind of "high frequency signal that I cannot hear but the amp can reproduce (but with difficulty hence the overheating /thermal outcome)."

Not sure what to do now and hope someone here can offer some advice?

Thanks,
Mike

Mike,

if I were you I wouldn't play any material as the Bryston could be amplifying whatever HiDef signal you are sending to the speakers and it could end up damaging the tweeters. Are you feeding the signal from the Oppo/HTPC via HDMI/digital audio or analog. Try it using analog only to see if everything is working fine. What type of signal are you sending (bitstream, LPCM, DSD) from the Oppo if using digital? At least that way you will be able to understand where in the Denon the problem lies.

I am using the 4311 in pre-amp mode with an Oppo BDP-105 and have had no issues with sending digital audio to the Denon as either Bitstream or PCM.

Cheers.
post #22167 of 23179
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Originally Posted by elinter View Post

I do have a REW set up with a TASCAM US-144 MKII interface and Dayton EMM-6 mic. What are you thinking? Is the freq response of the mic good enough to measure freqs that high?

 

Good point.  I checked, and the EMM-6 only extends to 20KHz.  I guess my suggestion won't work then, sorry.

post #22168 of 23179

^

This sounds quite odd.  Mike, have you tried a reset the microprocessor on the Denon?

 

As to REW, I assume there's no way to measure that preout signal directly into the laptop, eliminating the mic? 
 

post #22169 of 23179
I just picked up a factory Refurb 4311 and I can not seem to get the SW2 (subwoofer 2) preout working. I have enabled two speakers in the speaker config menu.

No sound comes out of my 2 subwoofer when it's plugged into SW2. When I plug in my second sub into the SW1 input it works find so I know it's not the cabling or the subwoofer itself.

Any Ideas? Did I miss a setting somewhere to enable it?

Thanks
Edited by loc4me - 7/13/13 at 4:41pm
post #22170 of 23179
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Originally Posted by loc4me View Post

I just picked up a factory Refurb 4311 and I can not seem to get the SW2 (subwoofer 2) preout working. I have enabled two speakers in the speaker config menu.

No sound comes out of my 2 subwoofer when it's plugged into SW2. When I plug in my second sub into the SW1 input it works find so I know it's not the cabling or the subwoofer itself.

Any Ideas? Did I miss a setting somewhere to enable it?

Thanks

As long as you have configured two subs in the speaker settings, you should be getting an output signal on sub2. May be a bad channel...
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