The "Official" Denon AVR-4311CI/AVR-A100 thread [NO PRICE TALK] - Page 99

JD,

I will follow your instructions. Also, where is it located in the 4311 manual? I would think the procedure would be the same.


Willie

It's the same for all Denon AVRs .... p. 99.

Streaming from a WHS Media Server using The supplied ( HP WHS Server) PV Connect Software. It's silly easy. Just go to Media Server, see if you can see your server, search however you like; artist, album, whatever and off ya go. I can see a ton of other devices on the network as well. You do need to authorize on Vista and Win 7 for the Denon to access but that too is easy. I'm probably over answering your question.

I have xp64 so I don't have that WHS stuff, and I'm leaving for a conference for the next week so can't test this out in the meantime - how on the denon are you doing it? Do you go into the network menu, or is it from the windows box you say stream to the denon?

Don't have the replacement yet... and don't know if I will even try it out..

I have another brand new model AVR in my system at this moment that I am very happy with... might sell the new 4311...

Select the net/usb source or the MEDIA SERVER icon on the SOURCE SELECT page. It will display any DLNA/UPnP servers it can find. I find this a bit easier via the web interface where you'd click on NET AUDIO/USB.

Which one?

The reason not everybody has the scaling bug is becourse it happen only with some Satboxes.

I have several boxes and there is no problem with Dreambox HD800
but Vu+ Duo does not work with AVR-A100 ( it works with all other denon, marantz and onkyo receivers )

Its more than sat boxes. I am seeing the issue with bluray players (ps3 Sony es1000).

I have a 7 channel external amp (I) will probably use most of the time. Is there a way to use the internal amps and then quickly switch to the external for instance when you wanna turn up the volume for music or movie night. I dont think my wife would care if the bigger amp was on ..she probably does not need it.

Not possible (you would have to re-wire all the speakers each time!) and besides, that plan makes zero sense. using external amps doesn't force you to make things loud.... just turn down the volume.

yeah..guess I just 12v trigger everything and program the harmony...thanks

I checked a few different sources, switched out inputs, and I do see the blue rain in certain circumstances. It almost seems like the avr does not have the proper black levels set. I have now seen it while playing a BD (1080p24) on my PS 3 and on my 722k outputting 1080i. The weird thing is I do not see it playing PS 3 video games or Xbox 360 games, even games that are very dark. I do not have any audio drop-out issues or any other video issues, but based on switching inputs, it really seems like it has something to do with the reference level for black as it almost looked in some scenes like the dark parts were missing detail.

Had the A100 for a few days now. 2 Questions:

1. How can I make it wi-fi? Is there a USB 11g adapter or a RJ45 11g adapter I can use?
2. When accessing MP3's on the lan (wired win 7 PC), why does it time out, or eventually load, but then take 5s to change song titles? I can barely browse 10 songs of my 2500 songs, as every single navigation takes ~5s...

I believe some have mentioned no issues on the Game Input? Maybe others could confirm...set to get mine tomorrow and will report on this as well.

There are several Ethernet wifi adaptors out there. They are also known as Ethernet or game bridges/adaptors. I use a 5N whnde111 net gear product which works well and can also serve as a accesspoint. It has wired connectivity as well as wireless can work as a bridge or access point. Look on amazon for Ethernet wireless and you'll find bunch. You could also use one of the power line adaptors. They work a bit better as far as connection throughput speed but have been sketchy in reliability. I don't believe the USB port on the denon allows access to net connectivity. I believe only network option is via the Ethernet port, so you will def need some form of rj45 device.

As for your second issue more data about your setup is needed. Are you wired direct to router or are you using the pc as some sort of network bridge? The connection to the network browsing will only be as fast as the slowest link on your system. For example if your wired trying to connect or browse to music stored on a network device connected wirelessly than 5 sec seems about right.

I am getting better response to network functions than the 4311, in regards to scrolling, switching GUI pages and the like. 5 seconds seems pretty long and concur, you may have a network speed problem. Having said that, I am still a bit underwhelmed by network connectivity issues. It's like Denon has Soviet engineers working on network abilities. I have had some issues here already and will follow up with these problems later.

Mine gets delivered today. Hopefully without most of the issues. I am a sys admin actually, so will laugh if there are network issues and tech support attempts to tell me it is my home network.

For the blue rain issues, am i understanding it right that this happens when using the video conversion, but with it off you don't see the issue?

On my system this is what I observed. Off doesn't show this blue rain

I have had good luck with the network connection but don't forget a couple of important points:

--be certain you set network standby mode to ON
--assign the receiver a static IP address

My network problem...

First and foremost, I am a movie/TV watching kind of guy. Most of my life with the 4810 and ditto the 4311 is spent watching this material. My source is either an HTPC, Blu Ray Player, or Tivo.

I do bother to set up network functions and can zip around most of the screens. I don't use an I-Pod with the 4311 and probably will never use with my I-Pad. To me the 4311 just won't ever be the main source for net services. I have a Sonos for most of this stuff that, other than FLAC is just way better and easier to get spousal support. (as opposed to the spousal support I would have to pay if I made her get detailed with the 4311 net functions). seriously anyone tried to play back a photo on this thing. What it does to my daughters picture is a crime.

I have had one glitch so far with the network function. Everything worked, as far as having an IP address and being recognized on my network. I could get in to the Web based GUI but when I went to Net/USB and went to "media server", I received what I call a "Green Screen of Death). I could back out and the GUI would right itself at Net/USB but going to media server, or for that matter, Pandora, Rhapsody, etc... Brought up nothing but green again. I set the Standby feature to off and tried soft powering down the 4311, went back in tried it again with the same green screen end result. Finally, I had to unplug the thing and hard restart it. That fixed the bug and I was able to get in to all net features. Has anyone else witnessed this?

As stated above, the net features appear quite a bit faster than the 4810. scrolling is quicker and jumping between the different net sources is faster too. I can't say about navigating Pandora yet, as I haven't set it up all the way. We'll see just for kicks.

So to my one big rant. It seems that everyone wants to own our face time for what we pick to listen to and or watch at the hardware level. You can find tons o crap on Blu Ray Players, TV's, and yes, now AVR's. Personally, I would like the AVR to stick to what it is suppose to do; switch sources and process audio/video. It also could actually power your speakers and keep itself updated. As others have noted, why add the Airplay feature for $50 when you can get an Audio/Video streaming device for $100 or less? I have a WD-TV Live at work that has a far slicker GUI than the net junk on the 4311. heck, a Roku is about the same and, although I haven't got a clue about those Dune boxes, they look intriguing. A good old work horse HTPC can handle a ton of content.

It's interesting that not all source quality is the same and these differences open up a much bigger world of AVS Forum analysis, but I just wish Denon would offload some of these Net Functions to another unit. They could just license something like a Roku, fancy it up to match their line of receivers, integrate a family related GUI feature and really make a receiver dedicated to great switching/ upscaling/decoding/amplifying. You want a great high quality video streaming device - here ya go!!! the Denon/WD TV Live megastreamer3011. It has the ability to do Netflix 5.1 DD, AnyDVD HD with External NAS support and some type of movie library system. Or something like that. denon could then sell a matching silent NAS as well. Isn't this what separates are all about? Media center by way of Lego building, I like it!

Again, I said it's a rant. I am happy with the 4311 so far but just wish better network integration and design.

With Video Conversion set to off, you definitely do not see it for that source. I will have to try the Game mode to see if that helps my situation. With Video Conversion on, it depends on the source material on whether I see the blue rain. With my PS3, even the black background on the home screen does not show the blue rain (tv detects input of 1080p60), but when I was watching one Blu-Ray, part of the dark areas showed the "blue rain" with a 1080p24 source. My Xbox 360 has not shown the "blue rain" on games or Netflix yet, but I still need to try DVDs on it and the PS3.

Unlike other sources net/usb forces a colorspace change to 422. There may be a way around this or I may simply not understand some Denon thing but for now I consider it, like the PS3 behavior, a bug. This is a case where auto colorspace selection is a win.

If your display is doing 444 the screen will be green while RGB is red. Of course your issue is probably unrelated.

SeattleHTGuy, I liked your rant!!! I do agree that it's better to use a dedicated network box, much easier for streaming all content to where ever you want with very little problems.

Everything is wired. A100 to router, router to Win 7 PC. It takes 5s to click down ONE MP3. There is no way that is intended. I give up after spending 2 mins just to go down 20 songs... Even using the search button to change letters, takes a min just to go from A to B.

Something is very wrong. I am just a simple home network guy. I do have multiple switches from the main router to the 4311 and what you describe, I am not confirming. Some conflict exists somewhere. Perhaps you could try fixing the IP address on the A100 and see if this helps. If not, I don't know what to try.

You could also try unplugging everything from your network other than the Win 7 PC and router and see what happens.

to add to above: I run the ethernet connection from the receiver direct to a port on the router: so it does not have to go through any switches

be sure you reboot any routers or switches after changing connections

also be sure you set network standby to ON: intuitively you might think it should be set to off: this cost me a couple hours of troubleshooting

Amen brother! I dream of a day that will never come. The day I can buy something like a Denon AR 4311 with top end room correction technology and nothing but the ability to pass an untouched video connection through the device. The Audio Receiver should manage and provide the best possible audio playback. Let me buy a Video Receiver if I really want one. And stop fighting for our streaming media attention with massively inferior implementations. Let me buy a Denon/WD TV Live megastreamer3011 if I want it. But, if you can't get close to what Sonos or Roku or iTV or SageTV or Windows Media Center provides, stop trying.

I just got off the phone with Denon support regarding the blue rain issue. The woman I spoke to said she had never heard of this problem. After putting me on hold for quite a while, she told me to reset my processor, and if that didn't solve the problem, return the unit for a replacement, or send it in for service.

Has anyone with the blue rain issue tried resetting the processor? Just wondering if this is a complete waste of time, or worth trying before I pack it up and return it to Abt.

Is it Denon US ?

Denon "Skandinavia" knows about this and I'm awaiting an answer ..

Anyone who has been talking to REAL Denon ? and got any response ?

Not only the replacement service ..

The Japanese are losing there faces
They will look very funny

A big shame to ship "TESTED" AVR-A100 around the world with a bug
it took 5 minutes to find out