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December 6th UK

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Maximum Movie Mode: Christopher Nolan and Leonardo DiCaprio extract information about the world of Inception and learn about all things you may have missed in the film. Questions, answers, surprises and intrigue are all there for the taking!

Prologue (Motion Comics): Inception: The Cobol Job: Online comic that details how Cobb, Arthur and Nash came to be enlisted by Cobol Engineering to perform an extraction on Saito.

Inception: The Big Under: The story that reveals how Cobb and company get to Saito to put him under for the dream featured in the beginning of the film. Dream of Consciousness: Taking some of the most fascination and cutting-edge dream research to date on lucid dreaming, leading scientist to make the case that the dream world is not an altered state of consciousness, but a fully functional parallel reality.

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Extraction Mode: infiltrate the dreamscape of Inception – with this in-movie experience – to learn how Christopher Nolan, Leonardo DiCaprio and the rest of the cast and crew designed and achieved the movies signature moments.
Dreams: Cinema of the Subconscious: taking some of the most fascinating and cutting-edge dream research to-date on lucid dreaming, top scientists make the case that the dream world is not an altered state of consciousness, but a fully functional parallel reality.
Inception: The Cobol Job: now in full animation and motion, check out this comic prologue to see how Cobb, Arthur, and Nash came to be enlisted by Cobol Engineering and perform an extraction on Saito.
5.1 Soundtrack selections from Hans Zimmer's score
Conceptual art gallery
Promotional art archive
Trailers
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Project Somnacin: Confidential Files: get access to the highly secure files that reveal the inception of the dream-share technology.

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Best film of the year for me by far, closely followed by Scott Pilgrim
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Awesome! My favorite new movie this year.

As much as I liked it, I wouldn't mind a rifftrack for it. Hell, how bout ANY rifftrack in general? All they release is a bunch of shorts anymore. Agh!
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IMAX shots???
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the movie wasn't shot with IMAX cameras so it won't matter...I wish Nolan had shot a few scenes with the IMAX cameras like he was originally planning to do so we could get the shifting aspect ratio on the Blu-ray like in 'The Dark Knight'
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Originally Posted by TitusTroy View Post

the movie wasn't shot with IMAX cameras so it won't matter...I wish Nolan had shot a few scenes with the IMAX cameras like he was originally planning to do so we could get the shifting aspect ratio on the Blu-ray like in 'The Dark Knight'

Bummer, I thought he had. I haven't seen the movie, yet.
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Some parts were shot on regular 65mm, but that format has a 2.2 : 1 aspect ratio, only a bit taller than anamorphic.
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Originally Posted by TitusTroy View Post

the movie wasn't shot with IMAX cameras so it won't matter...I wish Nolan had shot a few scenes with the IMAX cameras like he was originally planning to do so we could get the shifting aspect ratio on the Blu-ray like in 'The Dark Knight'

I don't mind that as an option... but I really wish there was a version without the shifting aspect ratios and I'm glad that's not being foisted off on us again.
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Bummer, I thought he had. I haven't seen the movie, yet.

Inception played on IMAX screens but it wasn't shot with IMAX...so all they did was stretch the image...not real IMAX in my opinion...only 2 movies so far have been filmed with IMAX cameras, The Dark Knight and Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen...rumors are circulating that Chris Nolan wants to shoot the next Batman flick entirely with IMAX cameras
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Interesting factoid, Ellen Page is actually standing right along side Dicaprio...
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Originally Posted by TitusTroy View Post

Inception played on IMAX screens but it wasn't shot with IMAX...so all they did was stretch the image...not real IMAX in my opinion...only 2 movies so far have been filmed with IMAX cameras, The Dark Knight and Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen...rumors are circulating that Chris Nolan wants to shoot the next Batman flick entirely with IMAX cameras

I understand all of that. All I was saying is that I thought I had read that he had shot some scenes with an IMAX camera, like Dark Knight.
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Interesting factoid, Ellen Page is actually standing right along side Dicaprio...

Time for me to bow out of this thread before I start reading spoilers
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I don't mind that as an option... but I really wish there was a version without the shifting aspect ratios and I'm glad that's not being foisted off on us again.

I actually loved the IMAX scenes on the Blu-ray...the shifting aspect ratio didn't bother me because they looked amazing...plus for the most part they were long continuous scenes unlike in Revenge of the Fallen where the aspect ratio would switch every few seconds
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I actually loved the IMAX scenes on the Blu-ray...the shifting aspect ratio didn't bother me because they looked amazing...plus for the most part they were long continuous scenes unlike in Revenge of the Fallen where the aspect ratio would switch every few seconds

Again, there's nothing wrong with that version existing. I actually do think it's kinda cool. But I'd like the straight theatrical presentation (without the IMAX DMR process ****ing up the 35mm footage) as an option as well.
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I understand all of that. All I was saying is that I thought I had read that he had shot some scenes with an IMAX camera, like Dark Knight.

He did shoot 70mm but it was framed for the scope ratio, so some reports came out that is was shot IMAX as most don't know the difference
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Originally Posted by dvdmike007 View Post

He did shoot 70mm but it was framed for the scope ratio, so some reports came out that is was shot IMAX as most don't know the difference

That makes sense, thanks.
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Time for me to bow out of this thread before I start reading spoilers

I think that was a height gag
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I understand all of that. All I was saying is that I thought I had read that he had shot some scenes with an IMAX camera, like Dark Knight.

He shot some portions of it (not sure which) in 65mm.

IMAX uses 65mm run sideways in a 4:3 format, so it's the same film basically, but IMAX is using a much much larger film area per-frame in a very different AR for the IMAX format.

Standard 65mm is still very rarely used historically, only a handful of films are shot in 65mm, and the advantages over 35mm are still very very impressive.

There are exceedingly few 65mm-capable theaters out there, unfortunately.

I am not entirely clear what occurred in the IMAX process because IMAX usually takes 35mm film and digitally cleans it to reduce grain, and also adds a touch of edge enhancement, before printing it out to IMAX 65/15perf stock for display in an IMAX film theater. I don't know if they ran the 65mm film through the same step as the 35mm, but my hunch is that they may have because I didn't see much of a switch between 35mm and 65mm portions. And Inception was very heavily de-noised, and look quite mediocre in my opinion, during the IMAX presentation I saw. It was definitely a festival of DNR waxy-faces. Very unfortuante, and disappointing. It probably would have looked better in a standard 35mm print that hadn't gone through IMAX's DMR step.
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Originally Posted by TitusTroy View Post

I actually loved the IMAX scenes on the Blu-ray...the shifting aspect ratio didn't bother me because they looked amazing...plus for the most part they were long continuous scenes unlike in Revenge of the Fallen where the aspect ratio would switch every few seconds

That and the fact that Revenge of the Fallen was the most hideously terrible movie in the history of film-making...
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Originally Posted by ChrisWiggles View Post

He shot some portions of it (not sure which) in 65mm.

IMAX uses 65mm run sideways in a 4:3 format, so it's the same film basically, but IMAX is using a much much larger film area per-frame in a very different AR for the IMAX format.

Standard 65mm is still very rarely used historically, only a handful of films are shot in 65mm, and the advantages over 35mm are still very very impressive.

There are exceedingly few 65mm-capable theaters out there, unfortunately.

I am not entirely clear what occurred in the IMAX process because IMAX usually takes 35mm film and digitally cleans it to reduce grain, and also adds a touch of edge enhancement, before printing it out to IMAX 65/15perf stock for display in an IMAX film theater. I don't know if they ran the 65mm film through the same step as the 35mm, but my hunch is that they may have because I didn't see much of a switch between 35mm and 65mm portions. And Inception was very heavily de-noised, and look quite mediocre in my opinion, during the IMAX presentation I saw. It was definitely a festival of DNR waxy-faces. Very unfortuante, and disappointing. It probably would have looked better in a standard 35mm print that hadn't gone through IMAX's DMR step.

The 35mm prints were done photochemically, but the digital master for IMAX (and presumably digital cinema) was created from a 4K scan of the 35mm interpositive, as per the ASC article about it. So you wouldn't really be seeing the full potential of the 65mm photography.
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The 35mm prints were done photochemically, but the digital master for IMAX (and presumably digital cinema) was created from a 4K scan of the 35mm interpositive, as per the ASC article about it. So you wouldn't really be seeing the full potential of the 65mm photography.

I actually hadn't seen that article, thanks for pointing that out. I'd done a couple searches before right after I saw it, but didn't find the ASC writeup. It's a very brief statement at the end, but it does sound pretty unequivocal that they drew the IMAX from 35mm which is unfortunate. Makes sense why I couldn't for the life of me pick out 65mm portions while watching the film. Given what I saw in Imax, I think I would have preferred the undamaged 35mm print in a regular screening to the pasty mess in IMAX. OH well.
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Good movie , but borrowed from "The Matrix"

Not very original.
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Good movie , but borrowed from "The Matrix"

Not very original.

Borrowed from a whole lot more than just The Matrix...
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I found Inception to be a whole lot more involving than any of The Matrix films as well as Batman Begins and The Dark Knight. I really enjoyed Nolan's Memento as well as The Prestige.

Unless Warner filters it or does something crazy to the video, I'll be buying it week of release so my family can watch it.
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Good movie , but borrowed from "The Matrix"

Not very original.

I sat there in 1999 and watched the Matrix, and I thought it was the LEAST original film I had ever seen, that was cod intelligent.
Inception was actually intelligent imho
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The Matrix borrows from Metropolis, Virtuosity, Dark City, a western or two, and Johnny Nmemonic (which ironically starred Keanu Reeves). But it was all masterfully blended. I do think Inception is better, but not by much.
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This movie was even more disappointing than Dork Knight. They better do a Rifftrax cause that's the only way I'll ever watch this turd again.

And clearly your opinion of both films is held my tens of millions around the world.

Best film of the year (well, after Girl With The Dragon Tattoo, which I saw just after the new year).
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I'm glad to not be a part of tens of millions around the world. The same people who like movies like Transformers. Its nice to think for myself.

Transformers as a big dumb action movie, this was the only big smart blockbuster action movie in recent memory.
Your comparison is flawed
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Yup. Not even worth debating with a guy who hates both Dark Knight and Inception.
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I didn't like The Dark Knight either. And I also thought this movie was a rip-off of many other movies. But I still thoroughly enjoyed it, it was better than I expected. It had many interesting things going for it, and I thought while gimmicky, the multiple dream layers was a wonderfully effective action tool to in essence stack simultaneous storylines together in a unique way to add a great deal of suspense and tension to the film.

It's not a great film. But I think it certainly was much much better than mediocre.
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