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post #31 of 487
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Originally Posted by Matt_Stevens View Post

Yup. Not even worth debating with a guy who hates both Dark Knight and Inception.

I like the Dark Knight as a movie, but hate it as a Batman film
post #32 of 487
Let's hope it gets the transfer it deserves. The cinematography was pure genius. And I hope they don't pull another IMAX DNR master mess-up like with the Dark Knight. (I know it wasn't shot on IMAX, they still made a separate IMAX transfer to showcase the 65mm scenes.)
post #33 of 487
I am very worried that Warner puts this rather long movie + additional HD special features on one single disc. Disc 2 + 3 are DVD and Digital Copy.

Dark Knight was a dual Blu-Ray edition with most special features on a seperate disc.

Low Bitrate VC-1 encoding...here we come.
post #34 of 487
I enjoyed this movie more than the Matrix, and that says a lot. Day 1 purchase for me.
post #35 of 487
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Originally Posted by dvdmike007 View Post

I sat there in 1999 and watched the Matrix, and I thought it was the LEAST original film I had ever seen, that was cod intelligent.

Mike, my feeling was quite the opposite, when I first viewed The Matrix in a theater I thought it was a very original (especially from a visual standpoint) film. On exiting the theater I remarked to my family that I felt it was a sci-fi classic - the sequels not so much.
post #36 of 487
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Originally Posted by dvdmike007 View Post

Transformers as a big dumb action movie, this was the only big smart blockbuster action movie in recent memory.
Your comparison is flawed

I actually prefer TF2 over Inception. Yes, Inception was more intelligent and better made...but it was far less enjoyable, to me. I couldn't care less about anyone in it. They might as well have made it with robots.
post #37 of 487
There was someone you cared about in TF2?

Inception felt a bit impersonal, like some cinematic puzzle box, but I thought it was pretty good. Definitely not third best movie of all time as per IMDB users
post #38 of 487
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There was someone you cared about in TF2?

Yeah. Call me crazy. I find Shia charming. I also think Josh Duhamel is hot as hell.
post #39 of 487
I enjoyed Inception but I do admit that the characters were rather lifeless.
post #40 of 487
I have to agree with some here. Other than Cobb, the characters were underdeveloped and boring. I had no empathy for any of them. Additionally, using Page's character (don't remember her name, kind of the main problem) as the audience's guide didn't seem to work. As a piece of fiction, it didn't entertain. As a puzzle, it was interesting. Hopefully Nolan puts a bit more warmth into his characters in Batman 3.
post #41 of 487
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Originally Posted by dvdmike007 View Post

Transformers as a big dumb action movie, this was the only big smart blockbuster action movie in recent memory.
Your comparison is flawed

I would call Inception clever rather than smart. Its a nice little puzzle, but once you solve it, theres really not much that it has to say. Not that there is a problem with this, since at the end its still just blockbuster entertainment. Albeit damn well made blockbuster entertainment.

Its definitely better than the dark knight however. Geez, that movie is the epitome of a film that gets worse on subsequent viewings for me.
post #42 of 487
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Originally Posted by Amon View Post

I have to agree with some here. Other than Cobb, the characters were underdeveloped and boring. I had no empathy for any of them. Additionally, using Page's character (don't remember her name, kind of the main problem) as the audience's guide didn't seem to work. As a piece of fiction, it didn't entertain. As a puzzle, it was interesting. Hopefully Nolan puts a bit more warmth into his characters in Batman 3.

AMEN. Great summation.
post #43 of 487
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I will never understand why people come into a thread for a film they dislike and slag it off, really what is the point?
post #44 of 487
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Originally Posted by Rumbo View Post

I would call Inception clever rather than smart. Its a nice little puzzle, but once you solve it, theres really not much that it has to say.

Oh, I disagree. The film has plenty to say about how we choose to see the world. The theme of choice runs deeply through it.
post #45 of 487
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Originally Posted by Chad R View Post

Oh, I disagree. The film has plenty to say about how we choose to see the world. The theme of choice runs deeply through it.

Personally I thought Eternal Sunshing explored similar themes to Inception, and did it in a much more intelligent, emotional, as well as relevant manner.

Thematically, everything that Inception tries to say has been said before and in a much better and much more effective manner, but more importantly (since normally it wouldn't matter to me if a movie is just reusing themes, thats to be expected) what it does try to say, I find that it does it in a way that makes its own themes almost irrelevant.

So yeah, Inception as a blockbuster where you just turn off your brain? Great flick. Inception as a movie that makes you think? Not so much.

So, I'll definitely be buying Inception for its impressive visuals, as well as for Hans Zimmer's music.
post #46 of 487
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Originally Posted by benes View Post

I'm glad to not be a part of tens of millions around the world. The same people who like movies like Transformers. Its nice to think for myself.

Odd to even come to a thread that talks about the home video release date. I wish I had that kind of disposable time on my hands to talk about movies , I'm NOT interested in buying LOL.
post #47 of 487
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Originally Posted by Rumbo View Post

Personally I thought Eternal Sunshing explored similar themes to Inception, and did it in a much more intelligent, emotional, as well as relevant manner.

Thematically, everything that Inception tries to say has been said before and in a much better and much more effective manner, but more importantly (since normally it wouldn't matter to me if a movie is just reusing themes, thats to be expected) what it does try to say, I find that it does it in a way that makes its own themes almost irrelevant.

Yeah, but don't you think it's a little demanding of your entertainment to expect that if another film does the same themes, and you like that film more, that if another film doesn't live up to that standard that it's no longer smart?

Although it sounds like INCEPTION didn't engage you emotionally, that doesn't mean that the film isn't intelligent. Regardless of the plot's mechanics, the film still poses some very poignant questions about choosing your reality, and by effect your happiness; how guilt can stunt your happiness; and which is more satisfying, imagination or reality. There's a lot to the film beyond it's puzzle box story which some people mean when they refer to it being "smart", but it is far more than that. The very fact that it rasies deeper questions about our existence is what makes it smart, and that has nothing to do with how well it engages you.

And nothing a story does ever makes its themes irrelevant, nor can a story's resolution in any way invalidate a theme. If a charcter is struggling with an issue, that's what sets the thoughts off in the audience's minds. How that character chooses to resolve the issue isn't the only way the issue can be resolved. If you disagree with that character's solution that's okay because the very fact that you're contemplating the different resolutions makes it thematically successful. And so long as the character's choice is consistent with his/her prior choices, it's successful on that level as well.

Like I said, you may not be engaged by the story or the themes, but that doesn't mean they aren't there and that the film isn't intelligent.
post #48 of 487
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Originally Posted by rezzy View Post

The Matrix borrows from Metropolis, Virtuosity, Dark City, a western or two, and Johnny Nmemonic (which ironically starred Keanu Reeves). But it was all masterfully blended. I do think Inception is better, but not by much.

Aww, if you're gonna make that kind of a list, pick the one the directors specifically pointed out as a heavy influence, Ghost in the Shell.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y3tF7TL0Qh4

1:20 - 2:40 in particular

What is real, what is virtual... the whole downloading and uploading your brain like a computer, that's pulled right out of Shell's pages. (Since it was a comic first back in 1989)
post #49 of 487
It really wasn't meant to be all-inclusive, but here's more food for thought (some of the pics have since been taken down):

http://archive2.avsforum.com/avs-vb/...&&#post4796812
post #50 of 487
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Originally Posted by TheLion View Post

I am very worried that Warner puts this rather long movie + additional HD special features on one single disc. Disc 2 + 3 are DVD and Digital Copy.

Dark Knight was a dual Blu-Ray edition with most special features on a seperate disc.

Low Bitrate VC-1 encoding...here we come.

You can get most dvds and digital copy's on the same disc now, have they confirmed the discs?
post #51 of 487
I think we can all agree that Inception is just a rip-off of a Duck Tales comic.

http://www.cinemablend.com/new/Incep...rst-19957.html

It will still be a day one purchase for me though.
post #52 of 487
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Originally Posted by dvdmike007 View Post

I will never understand why people come into a thread for a film they dislike and slag it off, really what is the point?

Apparently, some people just like to shout "look at me, I'm cool!" by hating on anything popular. Or maybe they just like baiting people to make themselves feel important and the center of attention? I just try to stay out of threads for the movies I'm not interested in... As they say, one man's trash is another man's treasure!

I enjoyed Inception quite a bit, and it actually is pretty rare for me to enjoy blockbusters. A fun contrast for me was to watch Inception one weekend, and then the next at home I watched Christopher Nolan's first film "Following," which I'd never seen before. One thing's for sure, Nolan doesn't need millions of dollars to make an entertaining movie!

I'll absolutely be picking up Inception on Blu-ray. I'm looking forward to combing through all the extras.
post #53 of 487
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Originally Posted by dvdmike007 View Post

I will never understand why people come into a thread for a film they dislike and slag it off, really what is the point?

Haters gotta hate.

I'm glad that 99.9999999999999999999999999999999999999999999% of internet forum users are destined to only watch movies and not make them. I sleep safer in my bed at night with that knowledge.
post #54 of 487
Has there been any confirmation if the US is getting that LE briefcase package?
post #55 of 487
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Originally Posted by Favelle View Post

Odd to even come to a thread that talks about the home video release date. I wish I had that kind of disposable time on my hands to talk about movies , I'm NOT interested in buying LOL.

Odder still is coming into, reading, then responding to a thread that you aren't interested in.

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post #56 of 487
This movie will definitely get the Oscar for best picture and is a must buy for me.
post #57 of 487
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Originally Posted by Araxen View Post

This movie will definitely get the Oscar for best picture and is a must buy for me.

Nomination? sure. Not hard with 10 films.

Win? I *HOPE* better movies come out this fall.
post #58 of 487
I thought this film was very poorly made and pseudo-intellectual. Christopher Nolan has gained this untouchable status among film geeks and critics alike, but it's not warranted. Dark Knight's 3rd act was atrocious, and most of this film was too. I only post because I hope this film gets the backlash it deserves and will hopefully receive in the near future.
post #59 of 487
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Originally Posted by DigitalfreakNYC View Post

Nomination? sure. Not hard with 10 films.

Win? I *HOPE* better movies come out this fall.

I would be very surprised with a best picture on this one. It's also out fairly early in the season isn't it?

I mean, I enjoyed it, but definitely not best picture material. Then again, they pick a lot of bad pictures for that prize. Forrest Gump won best picture, mind you, one of the worst films ever outside of Transformers 2 which one can hardly characterize as a movie...
post #60 of 487
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Originally Posted by ChrisWiggles View Post

I mean, I enjoyed it, but definitely not best picture material. Then again, they pick a lot of bad pictures for that prize.

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Forrest Gump won best picture, mind you, one of the worst films ever outside of Transformers 2 which one can hardly characterize as a movie...

Aaaaaaand, you've lost me.
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