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Why not make the score in a soundtrack mutable?

post #1 of 17
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Many times I find myself annoyed by the loudness of the music during key scenes with whispered dialogues or action scenes, where the sound effects already push a lot of pressure and the music just becomes more noise than anything else.
The Star Wars flicks, The Dark Knight, Watchmen have the most painful soundtracks ever because of their too loud or unnecessary scores.
With the advent of Blu-Rays I thought the studios would give me the possibility to cut off the music from a track, like I can do with videogames (thank goodness!).
But no. I have to stick with all those yelling opera instruments or stupid MTV songs at 80-f**king-dB!
You would be amazed at how much more detailed we could hear the sound effects if the music could be muted!
post #2 of 17
Maybe it is possible to lower the volume if you rip the Blu-ray over to Matroska? Or is it called mkv...?
post #3 of 17
While we're at it, why don't we recast the actors and cut out key sequences.
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post #5 of 17
The only way this would be possible is if the audio was mixed in real-time during playback (like in a video game), which will thankfully never happen. Try enabling dynamic range compression if you have trouble making out the dialogue.
post #6 of 17
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Originally Posted by luca_frontino View Post

Many times I find myself annoyed by the loudness of the music during key scenes with whispered dialogues or action scenes, where the sound effects already push a lot of pressure and the music just becomes more noise than anything else.
The Star Wars flicks, The Dark Knight, Watchmen have the most painful soundtracks ever because of their too loud or unnecessary scores.
With the advent of Blu-Rays I thought the studios would give me the possibility to cut off the music from a track, like I can do with videogames (thank goodness!).
But no. I have to stick with all those yelling opera instruments or stupid MTV songs at 80-f**king-dB!
You would be amazed at how much more detailed we could hear the sound effects if the music could be muted!

..er...no offence mate but are you for real?
STAR WARS without the music??!! Whats next..getting rid of that annoying shark music during JAWS or those pesky violins in the PSYCHO shower scene!!!
post #7 of 17
I am convinced that the original poster is not for real. If he is, there is no hope for him and any replies/advice are wasted.

It is as useless to argue with those who have renounced the use of reason as to administer medication to the dead----Thomas Jefferson
post #8 of 17
The OP is demanding the audio equivalent of changing the aspect ratio or colorization or killing grain.

I can't figure out why people bother to watch a movie when they have such fundamental objections to how it was made.
post #9 of 17
With a hearing-impaired person in our household, one who has difficulty picking dialog out of music & effects, I understand the OP's interest, though AFAIK it's not easily doable i.e. the studios would have to go-back to the original tapes and re-mix soundtracks from scratch. Ain't gonna happen.

A better bet, if you're already willing to forego the entire music track, is to instead pipe-in to your speakers only the Center channel where most-if-not-all of the dialog resides. Another idea is to start ripping your BDs and re-doing the audiotracks yourself (yes this is possible).

Two asides: I've noticed in some broadcast TV shows that dialog is strictly Center (no dialog, even "leakage", in L-R or surrounds at all). In a few cases a movie has been pressed to disc (talking DVD & Laserdisc, dunno about BD) with an isolated music track.
post #10 of 17
I suspect that even if a studio were of a mind to do such a thing (unlikely as it may seem for the reasons already mentioned), it would not be cost effective. In other words, for the money they'd have to spend to do it, who would care besides one or two people?

John
post #11 of 17
Dumbest. Thread. Ever.
post #12 of 17
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Originally Posted by Laserfan View Post

With a hearing-impaired person in our household, one who has difficulty picking dialog out of music & effects, I understand the OP's interest, though AFAIK it's not easily doable.

The OP does not seem to be approaching from a hearing impaired perspective, IMO, but rather from a video game perspective.

If the problem really was due to hearing impairment, there are two good suggestions: 1.) set the player to its "dialog enhance" mode. 2.) turn on subtitles.

I keep mine on dialog enhance because many actors today mumble their lines. Also, my wife does not hear as well as I do.
post #13 of 17
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Originally Posted by 18 Brumaire View Post

The OP does not seem to be approaching from a hearing impaired perspective, IMO, but rather from a video game perspective.

No. He wanted to do for movies "like I can do with videogames".

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If the problem really was due to hearing impairment, there are two good suggestions: 1.) set the player to its "dialog enhance" mode. 2.) turn on subtitles.

I like DE myself, but it's inadequate to help my wife. And subtitles are a "last resort" at best; not a solution she likes and distracting to everyone else.

Guess the points are moot--the OP is nowhere to be found.
post #14 of 17
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Originally Posted by ChrisWiggles View Post

Dumbest. Thread. Ever.

Most. Useless. Least. Constructive. Post. Ever.

I'll have to look--are most of your 20,000 posts this helpful/engaging?
post #15 of 17
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Originally Posted by Laserfan View Post

Most. Useless. Least. Constructive. Post. Ever.

I'll have to look--are most of your 20,000 posts this helpful/engaging?

Proudly yes!
post #16 of 17
btw, if dialogue intelligibility is a problem, then the issue is always: 1) room acoustics, 2) lack of calibration, and 3) center channel quality.

A proper HT never has an issue with dialogue intelligibility or excessive dynamic range except occasionally for the odd film like 'Brick.'
post #17 of 17
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Most. Useless. Least. Constructive. Post. Ever.

I must say that my YouTube video post is a contender for that award. I'll be happy with the silver medal.
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