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post #31 of 136
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Originally Posted by sigmaace01 View Post

Does the BD-C7900 stream mkv, avi, etc, from the home PC very well? I currently have the LG BD-570 & it streams like a champ. I often stream 720p & 1080p mkv files from the net and really need the BD-C7900 to be able to do so, too.

Is the 7900 that unpopular that no one knows this?
post #32 of 136
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Originally Posted by WillyJ View Post

Anyone had any issues getting DTS-MA to play correctly with the HELLBOY II BluRay? I have had 2 discs now from NetFlix with the same problem: The sound would play fine for a few minutes and then it would stop completely. Restarting the disc again and it would do this over and over and the sound would stop at different places on this disc. When it did put out sound, it was DTS-MA encoded and my Denon AVP surround processor lit up correctly. Then when the sound stopped, the Denon showed no incoming signal. The sound was never garbled or odd sounding when it played - It sounded fine when it played; It just would only play for a few minutes and then stop altogether.

I had the Samsung BD-C7900 in Bitstream(Audiophile) mode when this was happening. I switched the Samsung to PCM and it played fine as MultiChannel Direct on the Denon.

I suspect the Samsung may need another firmware update even though I just updated to the latest one before playing the 2nd disc. I guess it is possible that I got 2 bad discs but unlikely.

Anyone else experience anything like this? I have only played a few discs with my new BD-C7900 but the DARK KNIGHT played fine in Dolby HD.

Also, does anyone know a Samsung website link or email where we can report problems such as these directly to Samsung?

I am having exactly the same problem with Hellboy II.

I have my new Bd-c7900 connected from HDMI 1 (Samsung) to HDMI (Dvd) port on the Onkyo HT-S9100THX (HT-R960) and after couple of minutes I am having the audio drop out problem. After couple of minutes it might come back then it goes away again...I have not played more than 26 minutes....

I have already tried activating and deactivating all possible options on the Onkyo (Like the LIPSync, Through/Auto, etc) and Samsung (True Color, Dynamic Range, etc) but no luck, already switched HDMI cables, applied latest firmware on the player, etc, etc, etc....no luck

What I did notice that before I upgraded the firmware (after unpacking) it was happening right at the beginning (Right outside the house scene where Red is young and being told the story) and after the latest upgrade it now happening at introduction part.....

When it is working, I can see that I am receiving DTS-HD Master 7.1 from the player and that the Onkyo is processing it as DTS HD-Audio Master, however, when the audio dropout happens, I can not see the feed from the Samsung anymore (DTS-HD Master 7.1).....

PCM 7.1, DTS-HD 5.1 and 6.1, Dolby Digital, no problems at all.....in my case problem seems only with DTS-HD 7.1. Since I do not have any DolbyTrueHD 7.1 I can not verify whether the problem will replicated there....

Anybody pls ?

Thanks
post #33 of 136
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Originally Posted by rajarammx View Post

I am having exactly the same problem with Hellboy II.

I have my new Bd-c7900 connected from HDMI 1 (Samsung) to HDMI (Dvd) port on the Onkyo HT-S9100THX (HT-R960) and after couple of minutes I am having the audio drop out problem. After couple of minutes it might come back then it goes away again...I have not played more than 26 minutes....

I have already tried activating and deactivating all possible options on the Onkyo (Like the LIPSync, Through/Auto, etc) and Samsung (True Color, Dynamic Range, etc) but no luck, already switched HDMI cables, applied latest firmware on the player, etc, etc, etc....no luck

What I did notice that before I upgraded the firmware (after unpacking) it was happening right at the beginning (Right outside the house scene where Red is young and being told the story) and after the latest upgrade it now happening at introduction part.....

When it is working, I can see that I am receiving DTS-HD Master 7.1 from the player and that the Onkyo is processing it as DTS HD-Audio Master, however, when the audio dropout happens, I can not see the feed from the Samsung anymore (DTS-HD Master 7.1).....

PCM 7.1, DTS-HD 5.1 and 6.1, Dolby Digital, no problems at all.....in my case problem seems only with DTS-HD 7.1. Since I do not have any DolbyTrueHD 7.1 I can not verify whether the problem will replicated there....

Anybody pls ?

Thanks

Yes - My unit behaved the same way before and after the last firmware so I suspect it must be a firmware issue that the player has with the Hellboy II disc and the DTS-HD format. These players are constantly updating the firmware due to problems such as these with certain discs - One of the issues with Blu-Ray in my opinion. - Seems there should be some quality standard or compliance all discs should have before being released.

I reported the problem in a form I submitted to the Samsung support site. Doesn't do us any good right now but they will probably fix it in a future firmware.

In the meantine, try switching the player to PCM in the audio setup and you should get sound almost as good as the DTS-HD MA and 7.1 should work too (Your receiver should default to multi channel in when multichannel PCM is detected). I have used the PCM multi for several years now with an older Panasonic Blu-Ray player. It works fine. The only downside is you may have some issues with the volume mix from all the speakers - I found different discs had very low or very loud center speaker levels and/or non-existent surround levels with the PCM multi. I didn't find this with the Hellboy II disc however.
post #34 of 136
Hi,

Yes via PCM no problems at all....watched Hellboy II without problems...."kind of glad" to know somebody else is also having the same problem...so at least it is probably not a defective player or receiver. I have got response from both Samsung and Onkyo.

Samsung - They want me to call to troubleshoot online since they can not help via email.

Onkyo - Asked me to do a factory reset...done...no fix....but the funny thing is that they told me to take the receiver to the nearest service store to fix the problem...so it kind of suggest that this might me a "hidden" known problem.

For now I have just rented Ice Age: Dawn of the Dinosaurs which has the exactly same audio DTS-HD MA 7.1 24Bit....let see if the problem replicates...

I will update as soon as I have anything.....

Thanks
post #35 of 136
Well tested Ice Age 3 and no problem with DTS-HD 7.1 24bit so this sounds like a specific problem with Hellboy II and Samsung or Onkyo.

Let see what the testing with Samsung and/or Onkyo comes up...
post #36 of 136
Is it better to connect the player direct to the TV rather than go through an AVR even though the AVR can process the 3D image? I would tend to think that direct would be a better option so as not to have the video touched by any other processor.
post #37 of 136
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Originally Posted by grod777 View Post

Is it better to connect the player direct to the TV rather than go through an AVR even though the AVR can process the 3D image? I would tend to think that direct would be a better option so as not to have the video touched by any other processor.

I really have not noticed any difference and do not believe there should be. If you have a solid reciever which has pass-thru, you should not really have any problems using 1 cable for now via your reciever.

Definately, once I have 3D TV I will have to use 2 cables, since my reciever is only 1.3 version, reason why I primarily bought BD-C7900...trying to be as much future proof as possible.
post #38 of 136
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Originally Posted by grod777 View Post

Is it better to connect the player direct to the TV rather than go through an AVR even though the AVR can process the 3D image? I would tend to think that direct would be a better option so as not to have the video touched by any other processor.

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Originally Posted by rajarammx View Post

I really have not noticed any difference and do not believe there should be. If you have a solid reciever which has pass-thru, you should not really have any problems using 1 cable for now via your reciever.

Definately, once I have 3D TV I will have to use 2 cables, since my reciever is only 1.3 version, reason why I primarily bought BD-C7900...trying to be as much future proof as possible.

I am not that familiar with all the ins and outs of getting 3D to work correctly but you do not have to have 1.4 compliant devices to get 3D - they just have to be high speed HDMI. I have Comcast cable and I am passing their 3D signals just fine through a TiVo Premiere, Denon AVP-HD1AC1 (surround processor) through 45 feet of HDMI cable to a Samsung PN58C8000 tv. The only HDMI 1.4 component in the chain is the Samsung PN58C800 - all the other components are HDMI 1.3. Yes - both the TiVo and the Denon are only HDMI 1.3. It works fine.

I haven't tried a 3D disc with my BD-C7900 Samsung player yet but will post when I do. I too bought the player for its dual HDMI outputs thinking I might need to use them both to pass 3D. I may not need it if I have the same results as I did with the Comcast/TiVO/Denon signal. You may not need it either. I think you may just have to experiment with your devices and the 3D signal you are getting. In my case, Comcast may be doing something different to the 3D signal to get it to pass through correctly - I don't know. 3D is fairly new and I don't understand all the workings yet and I don't think the so called experts in industry, the forums and magazines understand it either because there apparently is a lot of misinformation out there.
post #39 of 136
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Originally Posted by rajarammx View Post

Well tested Ice Age 3 and no problem with DTS-HD 7.1 24bit so this sounds like a specific problem with Hellboy II and Samsung or Onkyo.

Let see what the testing with Samsung and/or Onkyo comes up...

I doubt it is your Onkyo receiver since it does the same thing with my Denon surround processor. It is probably the player and will likely be fixed with another firmware upgrade by Samsung shortly. The BD-C7900 is a fairly new product and there will be a lot of firmware updates in the first year or so as they address these issues.
post #40 of 136
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Originally Posted by WillyJ View Post

I am not that familiar with all the ins and outs of getting 3D to work correctly but you do not have to have 1.4 compliant devices to get 3D - they just have to be high speed HDMI. I have Comcast cable and I am passing their 3D signals just fine through a TiVo Premiere, Denon AVP-HD1AC1 (surround processor) through 45 feet of HDMI cable to a Samsung PN58C8000 tv. The only HDMI 1.4 component in the chain is the Samsung PN58C800 - all the other components are HDMI 1.3. Yes - both the TiVo and the Denon are only HDMI 1.3. It works fine.

I haven't tried a 3D disc with my BD-C7900 Samsung player yet but will post when I do. I too bought the player for its dual HDMI outputs thinking I might need to use them both to pass 3D. I may not need it if I have the same results as I did with the Comcast/TiVO/Denon signal. You may not need it either. I think you may just have to experiment with your devices and the 3D signal you are getting. In my case, Comcast may be doing something different to the 3D signal to get it to pass through correctly - I don't know. 3D is fairly new and I don't understand all the workings yet and I don't think the so called experts in industry, the forums and magazines understand it either because there apparently is a lot of misinformation out there.

I have already confirmed that my AVR (Onkyo txsr705) will not pass the 3D signal from Onkyo themselves. I have read that the AVR must have a pass-through feature in order for the 3D to pass through. I don't think any receiver that has settings to adjust the picture will have that. My question really relates to whether or not the picture quality will be better bypassing the AVR using the 7900 BD player. I am considering upgrading my AVR but mostly for the new features like DNLA. But am undecided on whether or not to fork over $50 more for the 7900 over the 6900.
You are right though on the 1.3 vs 1.4. On the HDMI.org site it states in an FAQ section that HDMI 1.4 is not needed in order for 3D to work. If you are using the ethernet channel then all devices need HDMI 1.4 and also to use the ARC feature.
post #41 of 136
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Originally Posted by WillyJ View Post

I doubt it is your Onkyo receiver since it does the same thing with my Denon surround processor. It is probably the player and will likely be fixed with another firmware upgrade by Samsung shortly. The BD-C7900 is a fairly new product and there will be a lot of firmware updates in the first year or so as they address these issues.

Great to know that the same problem occurs with another receiver...practically rules out the Onkyo...Now I will just wait for a firmware update for Samsung.....
post #42 of 136
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Originally Posted by grod777 View Post

I have already confirmed that my AVR (Onkyo txsr705) will not pass the 3D signal from Onkyo themselves. I have read that the AVR must have a pass-through feature in order for the 3D to pass through. I don't think any receiver that has settings to adjust the picture will have that. My question really relates to whether or not the picture quality will be better bypassing the AVR using the 7900 BD player. I am considering upgrading my AVR but mostly for the new features like DNLA. But am undecided on whether or not to fork over $50 more for the 7900 over the 6900.
You are right though on the 1.3 vs 1.4. On the HDMI.org site it states in an FAQ section that HDMI 1.4 is not needed in order for 3D to work. If you are using the ethernet channel then all devices need HDMI 1.4 and also to use the ARC feature.

I tried the picture quality via the receiver and "directly" to the TV since I had the same doubt, considering my receiver is not 1.4 compliance....Me nor my girlfriend notice any picture quality difference at all.....My Onkyo does have the the pass-thru so I am passing video/audio thru my Onkyo.
post #43 of 136
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Originally Posted by grod777 View Post

I have already confirmed that my AVR (Onkyo txsr705) will not pass the 3D signal from Onkyo themselves. I have read that the AVR must have a pass-through feature in order for the 3D to pass through. I don't think any receiver that has settings to adjust the picture will have that. My question really relates to whether or not the picture quality will be better bypassing the AVR using the 7900 BD player. I am considering upgrading my AVR but mostly for the new features like DNLA. But am undecided on whether or not to fork over $50 more for the 7900 over the 6900.
You are right though on the 1.3 vs 1.4. On the HDMI.org site it states in an FAQ section that HDMI 1.4 is not needed in order for 3D to work. If you are using the ethernet channel then all devices need HDMI 1.4 and also to use the ARC feature.

2 part answer:
1. Bypassing
It sort of depends on your source player and your TV. It also depends on the quality of your video processor in your receiver. Strictly talking about the Samsung 6900/7900, I would say leave the signal alone from the player. The Samsung player will be sending the native signal of the disc and if you want to upconvert regular DVD's, you can setup the Samsung player to do this. The video adjustments on the receiver are redundant. You wouldn't want 2 sources messing with the video picture. But I am curious as to why you have to physically by-pass the receiver - Can you not just turn off video conversion within the setup menu of your receiver? Most modern receivers have a setting where you can turn off any video processing which in essence leaves the signal alone and passes it through untouched. In my Denon equipment, it is called CONVERSION or CONVERT in the menus. It may be called something different on your Onkyo. In the 7 years I have had a home theater, I have turned off video processing on all my receivers/pre-pros and the option (on/off) has been there on 3 pieces of Harman Kardon gear and 2 pieces of Denon gear. I would be surprised if this wasn't included on your Onkyo.

2 3D
I only mentioned the 3D because one of the other posters had mentioned 3D signal and the subjects are sort of related since they are based on video signal throughput from the receiver/pre-pro. My Denon, is HDMI 1.3 and should not be able to pass 3D signals but it does.
When you say "pass through" do you mean the "HDMI pass through" (CEC control) feature or do you mean pass through without video conversion? As I mentioned above, if you can turn off your video conversion/processing on the Onkyo you might find you will pass 3D - Worth a shot.
post #44 of 136
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Originally Posted by WillyJ View Post

2 part answer:
1. Bypassing
It sort of depends on your source player and your TV. It also depends on the quality of your video processor in your receiver. Strictly talking about the Samsung 6900/7900, I would say leave the signal alone from the player. The Samsung player will be sending the native signal of the disc and if you want to upconvert regular DVD's, you can setup the Samsung player to do this. The video adjustments on the receiver are redundant. You wouldn't want 2 sources messing with the video picture. But I am curious as to why you have to physically by-pass the receiver - Can you not just turn off video conversion within the setup menu of your receiver? Most modern receivers have a setting where you can turn off any video processing which in essence leaves the signal alone and passes it through untouched. In my Denon equipment, it is called CONVERSION or CONVERT in the menus. It may be called something different on your Onkyo. In the 7 years I have had a home theater, I have turned off video processing on all my receivers/pre-pros and the option (on/off) has been there on 3 pieces of Harman Kardon gear and 2 pieces of Denon gear. I would be surprised if this wasn't included on your Onkyo.

2 3D
I only mentioned the 3D because one of the other posters had mentioned 3D signal and the subjects are sort of related since they are based on video signal throughput from the receiver/pre-pro. My Denon, is HDMI 1.3 and should not be able to pass 3D signals but it does.
When you say "pass through" do you mean the "HDMI pass through" (CEC control) feature or do you mean pass through without video conversion? As I mentioned above, if you can turn off your video conversion/processing on the Onkyo you might find you will pass 3D - Worth a shot.

In reading the manual upconversion only happens when I connect HDMI to the TV and turn HDMI Monitor setting to yes. So I guess I can turn it off, but as per Onkyo "You would need to upgrade the receiver as the 705 is unable to pass a 3D signal". I don't know if this is a ploy to get people to buy a new receiver or what.
As far as CEC Control, yes I do have that but the manual states this only controls power and TV.
Either way I will be upgrading my AVR. I guess maybe I will fork over the extra $50 or so for the 7900 that way I can judge the video quality difference myself.
Thank for the input though.
post #45 of 136
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Originally Posted by rajarammx View Post

I tried the picture quality via the receiver and "directly" to the TV since I had the same doubt, considering my receiver is not 1.4 compliance....Me nor my girlfriend notice any picture quality difference at all.....My Onkyo does have the the pass-thru so I am passing video/audio thru my Onkyo.

What Onkyo do you have? Just curious, are you viewing 3D when you do this?
Thanks for the input.
post #46 of 136
You have to ask yourself If you care about having your 3D stream produce 1080P in each eye, with active shutter glasses, or if 720P is fine. Sony claims that they can do full spectrum (1080P) on HDMI 1.3 spec, but no one can test what they claim. I have Sony 3D HDMI 1.4 capable TV, and I want to ensure I have a 1.4 feed going to it. For this reason, I returned my Sony 3D BR player, only capable of 1.3, and I am considering this Samsung 7900 or 6900. If you put a 1.3 device in between two 1.4 devices, then you run the risk of downgrading the resolution of your 3D stream. The previous poster doesn't notice any difference or doesn't realize that this might be occurring. It would be great if he would plug the samsung 7900 directly into his TV to see if he sees the difference. I am not sure if the 8k is capable of 1.4, but if it is, then I am sure he would see a difference.

You are correct about the HDMI Ethernet Channel only being on HDMI spec 1.4, but this is a technology today that allows you to consolidate your ethernet connections to one, and share it amongst all devices. You have a good receiver, but the two things that would push you to move towards a HDMI 1.4 ready AVR would be the ability to push through the 1.4 stream without degradation and Audio Return Channel. ARC also helps with your cabling since you only have to run one cable to the TV. If you have any internet applications on your TV, then you can return the audio stream over the same HDMI that you connects your AVR to the TV.

The last thing you have to ask yourself is, what type of speakers do you have? If you have a good quality set up that allows you to distinguish well and accurately between all sounds, then it makes sense to go with the Samsung 7900. You then can split the 1.4 steam from the 1.3 steam and take advantage of full spectrum 3D stream and also allow yourself the ability to take advantage of the DD & DTS HD Audio streams. If you don't have a HDMI 1.4 capable TV, then get the 6900 and save yourself the money. Oh, in regards to DNLA, don't upgrade your receiver for just that feature since you will be able to do this with the either the Samsung 6900 or 7900.




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Originally Posted by grod777 View Post


I have already confirmed that my AVR (Onkyo txsr705) will not pass the 3D signal from Onkyo themselves. I have read that the AVR must have a pass-through feature in order for the 3D to pass through. I don't think any receiver that has settings to adjust the picture will have that. My question really relates to whether or not the picture quality will be better bypassing the AVR using the 7900 BD player. I am considering upgrading my AVR but mostly for the new features like DNLA. But am undecided on whether or not to fork over $50 more for the 7900 over the 6900.
You are right though on the 1.3 vs 1.4. On the HDMI.org site it states in an FAQ section that HDMI 1.4 is not needed in order for 3D to work. If you are using the ethernet channel then all devices need HDMI 1.4 and also to use the ARC feature.
post #47 of 136
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Originally Posted by Lupismaximus View Post

You have to ask yourself If you care about having your 3D stream produce 1080P in each eye, with active shutter glasses, or if 720P is fine. Sony claims that they can do full spectrum (1080P) on HDMI 1.3 spec, but no one can test what they claim. I have Sony 3D HDMI 1.4 capable TV, and I want to ensure I have a 1.4 feed going to it. For this reason, I returned my Sony 3D BR player, only capable of 1.3, and I am considering this Samsung 7900 or 6900. If you put a 1.3 device in between two 1.4 devices, then you run the risk of downgrading the resolution of your 3D stream. The previous poster doesn't notice any difference or doesn't realize that this might be occurring. It would be great if he would plug the samsung 7900 directly into his TV to see if he sees the difference. I am not sure if the 8k is capable of 1.4, but if it is, then I am sure he would see a difference.

You are correct about the HDMI Ethernet Channel only being on HDMI spec 1.4, but this is a technology today that allows you to consolidate your ethernet connections to one, and share it amongst all devices. You have a good receiver, but the two things that would push you to move towards a HDMI 1.4 ready AVR would be the ability to push through the 1.4 stream without degradation and Audio Return Channel. ARC also helps with your cabling since you only have to run one cable to the TV. If you have any internet applications on your TV, then you can return the audio stream over the same HDMI that you connects your AVR to the TV.

The last thing you have to ask yourself is, what type of speakers do you have? If you have a good quality set up that allows you to distinguish well and accurately between all sounds, then it makes sense to go with the Samsung 7900. You then can split the 1.4 steam from the 1.3 steam and take advantage of full spectrum 3D stream and also allow yourself the ability to take advantage of the DD & DTS HD Audio streams. If you don't have a HDMI 1.4 capable TV, then get the 6900 and save yourself the money. Oh, in regards to DNLA, don't upgrade your receiver for just that feature since you will be able to do this with the either the Samsung 6900 or 7900.

Thanks for your opinions, they will help in making my decision.
I currently do not have a 1.4 capable TV but I am considering upgrading to a new TV soon that will have 1.4 and 3D.
I am aware that the 6900,7900 and the Samsung 7000,8000 all do DLNA as I am sure there are other devices that do it too, but I would like to keep my options open to see which device does it better. Besides if I am streaming audio I would prefer not to turn on my BD player when I can do it through my AVR. Eventually I will upgrade everything one by one.
I have read up on ARC on I don't think I will use it but you never know, it's good to have it just in case.
What puzzles me is that the Onkyo (TXNR708) that I am looking to upgrade to, according to Onkyo does not support the Ethernet Channel. As far as I can tell if I have HDMI 1.4 on all my devices and I connect only 1 device via ethernet (I only use ethernet except the Wii) then they should all share the connection.
As far as the previous poster that is what I am looking for, to see if they notice any difference connected direct to the TV rather than going through an AVR that may modify the video signal in some way. By the 8K I am assuming you mean the Samsung 8k-correct?
post #48 of 136
I pulled the trigger on one of these 7900 units this past weekend.
Supposed to arrive this Friday. I didn't even know this unit existed and was just about to buy the Panasonic Bt300
I thought since I have a Samsung TV...and I needed a unit with 2 HDMI outputs..this would be a better bet

any direct comparos to the Panny BT300?
I know the Samsung unit does not have analog outs...which I don;t need

But I certainly think the apps are much better..generally speaking on Samsung blu ray players vs Panasonics



Warren
post #49 of 136
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Originally Posted by grod777 View Post

Thanks for your opinions, they will help in making my decision.
I currently do not have a 1.4 capable TV but I am considering upgrading to a new TV soon that will have 1.4 and 3D.
I am aware that the 6900,7900 and the Samsung 7000,8000 all do DLNA as I am sure there are other devices that do it too, but I would like to keep my options open to see which device does it better. Besides if I am streaming audio I would prefer not to turn on my BD player when I can do it through my AVR. Eventually I will upgrade everything one by one.
I have read up on ARC on I don't think I will use it but you never know, it's good to have it just in case.
What puzzles me is that the Onkyo (TXNR708) that I am looking to upgrade to, according to Onkyo does not support the Ethernet Channel. As far as I can tell if I have HDMI 1.4 on all my devices and I connect only 1 device via ethernet (I only use ethernet except the Wii) then they should all share the connection.
As far as the previous poster that is what I am looking for, to see if they notice any difference connected direct to the TV rather than going through an AVR that may modify the video signal in some way. By the 8K I am assuming you mean the Samsung 8k-correct?

To me
The other question you have to ask yourself is..."is it really worth it to buy a 1.4 capable receiver"
My thinking is..you can buy 1.3 capable receivers these days for 50% of retail...the Denon 4310 comes to mind...there are several of the higher end Onkyos that are subject to the same discount
With the money you save( going 1.3 instead of 1.4) you can buy a more higher end receiver than would have been in the budget before
Buy a blu ray player with the 2 HDMI outputs ...run one cable to the Tv and another one for audio...as I am going to do.
Enjoy the higher quality sound of the upgraded AVR

To me...the ethernet and ARC are not worth the extra 30-40% you will pay to go from 1.3 to 1.4 capability

Warren
post #50 of 136
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To me
The other question you have to ask yourself is..."is it really worth it to buy a 1.4 capable receiver"
My thinking is..you can buy 1.3 capable receivers these days for 50% of retail...the Denon 4310 comes to mind...there are several of the higher end Onkyos that are subject to the same discount
With the money you save( going 1.3 instead of 1.4) you can buy a more higher end receiver than would have been in the budget before
Buy a blu ray player with the 2 HDMI outputs ...run one cable to the Tv and another one for audio...as I am going to do.
Enjoy the higher quality sound of the upgraded AVR

To me...the ethernet and ARC are not worth the extra 30-40% you will pay to go from 1.3 to 1.4 capability

Warren
You make a good point. I have thoght of that but I cannot fit a larger AVR in my cabinet otherwise I would definately go with a better AVR.
post #51 of 136
Ok..understood

But I have to ask the question why are you..or why did you purchase the 7900 Blu ray player...or have you done it yet?



Warren
post #52 of 136
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Originally Posted by turnne1 View Post

Ok..understood

But I have to ask the question why are you..or why did you purchase the 7900 Blu ray player...or have you done it yet?



Warren

Not sure if this is directed at me but here it goes:

I have not yet purchased the 7900 yet. I try and do research first before I "pull the trigger". I am considering the 7900 because of it's dual HDMI ports and a slew of other features (that I probably won't use but better to have it and have options than not to).
post #53 of 136
Can someone please confirm this-
The 6900 manual states:
Check the size of the remaining memory.
The memory device must have at least 1GB
of free space to accommodate the BD-LIVE
services.

But the 7900 manual states:
Attach a USB memory stick to the USB jack
on the front of the player, and then check
its remaining memory. The memory device
must have at least 1GB of free space to
accommodate the BD-LIVE services.

Does the 7900 have 1GB Internal storage or not?
post #54 of 136
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Originally Posted by grod777 View Post

Not sure if this is directed at me but here it goes:

I have not yet purchased the 7900 yet. I try and do research first before I "pull the trigger". I am considering the 7900 because of it's dual HDMI ports and a slew of other features (that I probably won't use but better to have it and have options than not to).

It was...I should have asked the question using a quote from your comment...sorry about that

As I mentioned before..$$ can be saved or upgrades made for the same price using an HDMI capable 1.3 unit vs a 1.4
However I think you mentioned it was a space issue with you on certain receivers
That being said finding the 7900 will be a lot harder than the 6900...and due to the lack of competition it might be more expensive..as the only people that are likely going to by it will really need the two HDMI outputs

If you are looking for video to two displays there are several receivers that have two HDMI outputs....those have been a round a few years now


Warren
post #55 of 136
Quote:
Originally Posted by turnne1 View Post

It was...I should have asked the question using a quote from your comment...sorry about that

As I mentioned before..$$ can be saved or upgrades made for the same price using an HDMI capable 1.3 unit vs a 1.4
However I think you mentioned it was a space issue with you on certain receivers
That being said finding the 7900 will be a lot harder than the 6900...and due to the lack of competition it might be more expensive..as the only people that are likely going to by it will really need the two HDMI outputs

If you are looking for video to two displays there are several receivers that have two HDMI outputs....those have been a round a few years now


Warren

I am not looking for a unit with to output to 2 displays, just trying to get the best picture quality out of the BD player. I am in no rush so I have time to look around.
post #56 of 136
7900 has 1GB memory


Quote:
Originally Posted by grod777 View Post

Can someone please confirm this-
The 6900 manual states:
Check the size of the remaining memory.
The memory device must have at least 1GB
of free space to accommodate the BD-LIVE
services.

But the 7900 manual states:
Attach a USB memory stick to the USB jack
on the front of the player, and then check
its remaining memory. The memory device
must have at least 1GB of free space to
accommodate the BD-LIVE services.

Does the 7900 have 1GB Internal storage or not?
post #57 of 136
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Originally Posted by Lupismaximus View Post

7900 has 1GB memory

thx
post #58 of 136
A Small dilemma here: I have the Samsung Un46c7000 led tv, and it has normally been paired with a PS3... All seems fine, apart from the fact that in 3d, the PS3 does not do lossless sound, which is why I got myself a new Samsung bd-c7900. I have the option of pairing this bd player with the c7000 or with a Panasonic GT series 3d tv. My question is whether there is any special advantage in pairing the Samsung Tv and BD player together? I have been considering pairing the Samsung bd player with the panasonic only because it seems to me that the combination of the two will give me more internet apps in one place (i.e. Panasonic Apps + Samsung Apps), than if I were to pair the Samsung tv and bd player together (my logic being that the combination of Samsung apps from both tv and player will simply lead to a Samsung app redundancy). That said, I place pq considerations, and the overall quality of viewing experience above the question concerning the number of apps. So if there is any reason at all to believe that the Samsung Tv + Bd player combo will deliver a more overall satisfying visual and sonic experience than a Panasonic tv + Samsung Bd player combo I would like to know it, so that I can do the right thing. Any help would be welcome.
post #59 of 136
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Originally Posted by sahmen View Post

A Small dilemma here: I have the Samsung Un46c7000 led tv, and it has normally been paired with a PS3... All seems fine, apart from the fact that in 3d, the PS3 does not do lossless sound, which is why I got myself a new Samsung bd-c7900. I have the option of pairing this bd player with the c7000 or with a Panasonic GT series 3d tv. My question is whether there is any special advantage in pairing the Samsung Tv and BD player together? I have been considering pairing the Samsung bd player with the panasonic only because it seems to me that the combination of the two will give me more internet apps in one place (i.e. Panasonic Apps + Samsung Apps), than if I were to pair the Samsung tv and bd player together (my logic being that the combination of Samsung apps from both tv and player will simply lead to a Samsung app redundancy). That said, I place pq considerations, and the overall quality of viewing experience above the question concerning the number of apps. So if there is any reason at all to believe that the Samsung Tv + Bd player combo will deliver a more overall satisfying visual and sonic experience than a Panasonic tv + Samsung Bd player combo I would like to know it, so that I can do the right thing. Any help would be welcome.

I was facing somewhat of the same issue recently
I went with the Samsung 7900 as I needed the 2 HDMI outputs as I only have a HDMI capable 1.3 system
AS for the Apps...I think Samsung has more apps than anyone else..inclusive of Panasonic
I can't think of an app I have seen with Panasonic that Samsung does not have


Warren
post #60 of 136
Liking this box so far. Has a nice controls, looks very cool. Having the second HDMI to do audio is huge, as is having the builtin wifi.

Netflix streaming over WiFi has been rock solid. Will check the HellBoyII issue on mine and report back. (Yeah, same here. HellboyII goes silent from HD at about half-way through the title sequence following the intro story...)
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