3D Output Capability + DTS-HD Master Bitstreaming? Does anyone have yet?

PowerDVD 10 Mark II + GeForce GTX 460 or later (GTS 450, GT 440, GT 430 etc.) + NVIDIA 3D Vision Kit will suppport 3D + HD audio bitstreaming when CyberLink releases a patch for HD audio bitstreaming (3D should be ready now).

PowerDVD 10 Mark II + HD 5xxx + DLP-Link glasses: No, PowerDVD does not work with DLP-Link glasses. It may support it in future, however.

AFAIK when Nvidia releases their 3DTV player software(currently being tested by cyberlink) then what type of glases are used by the TV will be entirely under the control of the TV and not under the control of PowerDVD10 [MarkII]

"3DTV Play" is a driver patch that supports HDMI 1.4a 3D video signals. This has nothing to do with Mitsubishi WD-73738 DLP 3D display (Texas Instrument's 3D video technology), that works in a totally different way (checkerboard).

The new ASRock 3D Vision nettop system has both.

because of GeForce GT 425M. No need of changing the entire system (add a cheap, good GT 430 < $100 is enough)...

Yeah, the price is a serious concern for me as well... but it does do what the OP asked, so I figured I'd let him know.

Also, the latest info indicates that it's due to ship in the next few weeks...

Your DLP TV should be able to do 3D w/ your current video card as you can pass checkerboard through HDMI 1.3, on of the reasons I'm now glad I went w/ the DLP instead of the Plasma and LCD I was also looking at, I don't need to replace my AVR or add splitters, my Xonar and current Nvidia video cards should still work (well the GTX 260 side the onboard 8 series can't handle BD.

I never actually tested it since I haven't even see any 3D BDs in the stores whenever I thought about looking nor have I bothered to order my glasses yet.

I did however look into the whole 3D thing awhile ago and while trying to find glasses for my DLP some of them came w/ software and you could do 3D w/ non HDMI 1.4 and after further research for 3D BD playback it should just be a setting in the player for checkerboard output. IRRC I believe that I aslo read that the Nvidia 3D vision glass wouldn't work for movies on the DLP but would for games.

I have a feeling they might be releasing a 3d version of Avatar(although I already have the 2D BD) since they just showed it again in theaters or is it just Oscar season again, so I might pick up a set of DLP shutter glasses and give it a shot.

On other types displays that use a different format it's another story.

The Mits 2010 xx738 and xx838 models support both 3D checkerboard and HDMI 1.4a 3D SbS formats.

Quote from the following Link:

http://www.mitsubishi-tv.com/pdf/specsheet-738.pdf

"
Mitsubishi 3DTVs (738 and 838 series) currently support the side-by-side 3D signal format. For support of other 3D formats, such as top-bottom and frame packing (3D Blu Ray standard), Mitsubishi 3DTVs will require the use of a 3D source device that outputs the 3D checkerboard format
"

The advantage of Nvidia 3DTV player is that it will support the sending of HDMI 1.4a SbS format wheras as the current Nvidia 3D player does not.

The display is not compliant to HDMI 1.4a 3D; you will need the Mitsubishi 3D Adapter if you insists on HDMI 1.4a.


The supported input formats are:

- Side-by-Side (960+960) x 1080i=1980 x 1080i for 3D broadcast
- Checkerboard for everything else (Blu-ray 3D, 2D-3D converted DVD/BD, 3D games)

So it supports only one of the HDMI 1.4a 3D mandatory formats. In particular it does not support BR 3D (Frame Packing, 1920x2160). Basically the display's HDMI is HDMI 1.3.

There are two ways to get 3D movies from this display.

NVIDIA framework

PowerDVD 10 Mark II converts every 3D video signals (from BR 3D [frame packing], 2D-3D converted DVD/BD) to checkerboard, then the display converts it to 120Hz frame sequential and that works with a GeForce card and NVIDIA 3D Vision Kit.

HDMI 1.4a framework

Mitsubishi 3D Starter Pack ($400) includes:

- 3D Adapter (converts HDMI 1.4a 3D video signals to checkerboard [HDMI 1.3])
- 2 pair of 3D eyewear and matching emitter

PowerDVD 10 Mark II (with a future patch) outputs frame packing 3D video formats (1920x2160), the 3D Adapter converts it to checkerboard, then the display converts it to 120Hz frame sequential. The emitter and the glasses should work. As there is no graphics card that supports frame packing (1920x2160) right now, you will have to wait for a driver update. (NVIDIA 3DTV Play driver patch, ATI's driver patch etc.)

3D broadcast in SbS is basically HDMI 1.3 (1920x1080i). You don't need NVIDIA 3DTV Play (btw, it's "Play", not "player").

It appears that you and I are incomplete agreement on what the xx738 and xx838 Mits models currently support.
However, AFAIK if you want to send HDMI 1.4a SbS format to a xx738 or xx838 model you have to use 3DTV play since 3Dplay does not support it.

There is still no news on the schedule for the full HDMI 1.4a 3D format support upgrade discussed in the following link:

http://hdguru.com/mitsubishis-2010-hdtv-line/2001/

Why "incomplete"? The supported formats are clearly stated in the pdf file you linked:

- Side-by-Side
- Checkerboard

Side-by-Side: no further explanation, but it is almost clear that this is one of the four HDMI 1.4a 3D mandatory formats, that is:

- Side-by-Side: (960+960) x 1080i = 1980 x 1080i @59.95/60Hz (for NTSC countries)

from "High-Definition Multimedia Interface: Specification Version 1.4a".

According to 738 Series 838 Series: BASIC OWNER’S GUIDE, "Side-by-Side" includes not only the Primary 3D Video Format Timings stated in the previous post, but also some Secondary 3D Video Format Timings.


OK, no 1080i??

maybe "in complete"?

Ah, I see! Thanks for the clarification.

Absolutly my typo as you pointed out.