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post #3241 of 3723
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Originally Posted by tomefs View Post

Yes I do get a lot of relay clicking on my 80.2 ,no big deal compared to the thumps coming out the left and right speakers when the relay clicks hapen. This probelm only hapens on one of my amps it is Dc coupled, a B&K ex 442 2 chanel power amp. If I swap this amp out with somyhing else The speaker thumps go away. It seems to be a compatibility issue between the 80.2 and the B&K ex 442.The thumps do not get louder as the volume is increaced,but every time I get a relay click I get a thump out of the two speakers hooked up to this amp . I measured dc voltage out of the main out rca and found that by turning the bass up or down for instance, I would get a 1.5 mv jump on my voltmeter,then it would go back down to zero, volume set at minimum, I think this dc voltage is going into my amp and my amp is reacting to it . This did not hapen when this amp was hooked up to my lexicon dc-1.Anyone else have this problem, or measurment, Thanks

Only a very few others in this thread have reported similar problems. Actually, only an Odyssey Khartago amp comes to mind with hum problems. Most do not experience this mismatxch issue with amps. You have a choice: replace the amp, replace the Integra or put up with it. If I were to assign "blame", I would put it on the amp.
post #3242 of 3723
More Q from a 80.2 newbie: Oppo BDP-93 or -95? I now the 95 model should have superior/better analogue ouput. Then I wonder, what quality have the analogue cd and 5.1 bypass input on the 80.2 unit? Are that any technical/electrical difference between cd and 5.1 analouge input?

Or is it better to stick with the 93 model and use the digital connection?
post #3243 of 3723
I have access to SPOTIFY on my notebook computer. Is there a way for me to stream music from my notebook to the DHC-80.2? Wireless HDMI, WD TV, HDMI cable from my notebook to the DHC-80.2... etc.

I am looking for a way to do this that will provide quality audio play back. and allow me to view and play playlists, album art... etc. Any idea as to how to reasonably do this?

Thanks in advance.
post #3244 of 3723
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Originally Posted by LJN View Post

More Q from a 80.2 newbie: Oppo BDP-93 or -95? I now the 95 model should have superior/better analogue ouput...Or is it better to stick with the 93 model and use the digital connection?

Yes, that's the usual advice on the Oppo threads for someone who owns such an up-to-date and capable unit as the 80.2: get a 93, connect via HDMI and fugettaboudit.

I have done some tests with the Oppo 83 and 83SE comparing analog and digital and I'd basically agree with that advice. Especially if you use Audyssey, you are unlikely to hear much difference and it does not make much sense to do a DAC conversion in the player, then ADC and DAC in the pre/pro. But feel free to pose your question on the Oppo 93 or 95 thread.
post #3245 of 3723
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Originally Posted by SoundofMind View Post

and it does not make much sense to do a DAC conversion in the player, then ADC and DAC in the pre/pro. But feel free to pose your question on the Oppo 93 or 95 thread.

Thanks SoundofMind for repaly, so the analouge input (7.1 or CD/TV) on the 80.2 unit are not "pure" analouge to the output?
On my old TAG AV32R bp-192 the analogue bypass/input was pure with a well designed lineamp and electric controlled volume.
I was beliving the 80.2 unit was build by same way?
post #3246 of 3723
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Originally Posted by LJN View Post

More Q from a 80.2 newbie: Oppo BDP-93 or -95? I now the 95 model should have superior/better analogue ouput. Then I wonder, what quality have the analogue cd and 5.1 bypass input on the 80.2 unit? Are that any technical/electrical difference between cd and 5.1 analouge input?

Or is it better to stick with the 93 model and use the digital connection?

Why would you get a disc transport in this day and age... rip all of your media to a hard drive and get a good quality digital streamer that would feed into your pre/pro via an hdmi input.

Your original media would only then be used as a backup (no wear and tear), no changing discs and you can easily catalog your files with metadata for quick retrieval and navigation with fewer D/A conversions.

I sold my oppo player about 6 months ago after I started ripping my SACDs.
post #3247 of 3723
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Originally Posted by pepar View Post

How many here are bi-amping and having problems getting Audyssey set up because the channels do not sequentially test?

Jeff

I saw this brought up on the 80.3 thread as an issue and was wondering the same thing for the 80.2.

I am looking for a processor to bi-amp using XLR cables out of the processor. The 80.2 or 80.3 look like a good choice, but would like to have the option to run Audyssey with a bi-amp setup.

Thanks,
Max
post #3248 of 3723
You do realize, don't you, that this is not really bi-amping and there is quite a controversy over whether it improves performance.
post #3249 of 3723
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Originally Posted by LJN View Post

Thanks SoundofMind for repaly, so the analouge input (7.1 or CD/TV) on the 80.2 unit are not "pure" analouge to the output?

They are but he is questioning why you would do this, not whether you can. If you want to use Audyssey and the player's analog outputs, you would then have to redigitize/undigitize those signals.

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On my old TAG AV32R bp-192 the analogue bypass/input was pure with a well designed lineamp and electric controlled volume.
I was beliving the 80.2 unit was build by same way?

AFAIK, yes.
post #3250 of 3723
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Originally Posted by pepar View Post

You do realize, don't you, that this is not really bi-amping and there is quite a controversy over whether it improves performance.

I understand and may choose not to use Audyssey with my 2 CH setup. I would like to have the option to compare Audyssey with non-Audyssey and choose what I think is best.

Max
post #3251 of 3723
Audyssey will operate correctly with your planned configuration ... when Onkyo/Integra releases the bug fix.
post #3252 of 3723
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Originally Posted by maxfli View Post

I understand and may choose not to use Audyssey with my 2 CH setup. I would like to have the option to compare Audyssey with non-Audyssey and choose what I think is best.

Max

You can do that quickly in the setup menu, or you can switch from the normal sound mode to Direct. You can even set up so that Direct converts DSD from SACD's directly to analog. To me, it's no contest. Audyssey wins every time - 2 channel or multichannel. But, it's your choice.
post #3253 of 3723
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Originally Posted by LJN View Post

Thanks SoundofMind for repaly, so the analouge input (7.1 or CD/TV) on the 80.2 unit are not "pure" analouge to the output?
On my old TAG AV32R bp-192 the analogue bypass/input was pure with a well designed lineamp and electric controlled volume.
I was beliving the 80.2 unit was build by same way?

The 80.2 will not digitize the Mch analog inputs. So, yes it will be pure analog to the outputs. It will digitize 2-channel analog inputs, unless you select the Direct listening mode. I have found no sonic advantage to pure analog in either case. I stick with digital inputs and Audyssey processing in all cases. It sounds way better that way to me.

The Integras are digital processors. Using them as analog preamps and analog volume controls is not playing to their strength, IMHO, even though it is possible to do that. There are better solutions, even at reasonable prices, if analog is what floats your boat.
post #3254 of 3723
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Originally Posted by fitzcaraldo215 View Post

You can do that quickly in the setup menu, or you can switch from the normal sound mode to Direct. You can even set up so that Direct converts DSD from SACD's directly to analog. To me, it's no contest. Audyssey wins every time - 2 channel or multichannel. But, it's your choice.

Thanks Fitzc. Sounds like a lot of options. I think I'll be ordering tomorrow.

Max
post #3255 of 3723
^Well put, Fitz. And exactly consistent with my experience. I even tried a few dedicated HT bypass analog preamps to maintain a pure analog path. I've done all I can with curtains and rugs but it seems my room, like many other family room/HTs, needs considerable acoustic treatments including bass traps if I am to forego Audyssey. So rather than getting a player with super DACs, I invested in an XT32-equipped Denon A100 and even got an Audyssey Pro kit for state-of-the-art DSP.

Congrats to Audyssey for MultEQXT32 winning "Accessory of the year 2011" from Stereophile Mag. And hats off again to Kal Rubinson, who remains on the cutting edge in evaluating HT products.
post #3256 of 3723
Well mind is now at the repair center. Here are the issues I experienced.

1. Volume control knob wouldn't respond.
2. Sometimes when I powered up the unit I had sound with no picture.

Then it started to get ugly.

3. The unit was randomly changing input sources by itself, flicking between cable and game and also started flicking Monitor Out settings from main to sub to both.
4. Unit would turn on but not respond to any inputs on the front panel or the remote.
5. Unit would randomly reset itself and I would loose all settings.

Does anyone know if the warranty for this unit has been extended worldwide? I am in Australia and wanted to know if I am covered by the extended warranty as well?
post #3257 of 3723
The 80.2 has a three year warranty in the US. It only came out last October . When did you get yours?
post #3258 of 3723
Got mine in May this year.
post #3259 of 3723
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Originally Posted by Jmouse007 View Post

I have access to SPOTIFY on my notebook computer. Is there a way for me to stream music from my notebook to the DHC-80.2? Wireless HDMI, WD TV, HDMI cable from my notebook to the DHC-80.2... etc.

I am looking for a way to do this that will provide quality audio play back. and allow me to view and play playlists, album art... etc. Any idea as to how to reasonably do this?

Thanks in advance.

I have a sonos zp90 connected to my 80.1 and use the iPad ap. There is a small albumn art window on the ipad
post #3260 of 3723
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Originally Posted by g_bartman View Post

I have a sonos zp90 connected to my 80.1 and use the iPad ap. There is a small albumn art window on the ipad

Thanks, while I do not own an Ipad I do own a 2nd generation Ipod touch. I will check out the sonos zp90.
post #3261 of 3723
Well, I made it over a year, but my unit has finally stopped replying to remote codes - I fear input switching and total non-functionality aren't far behind. What has the turn around time people have been experiencing for the ribbon repair?
post #3262 of 3723
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Originally Posted by vigga View Post

Well, I made it over a year, but my unit has finally stopped replying to remote codes - I fear input switching and total non-functionality aren't far behind. What has the turn around time people have been experiencing for the ribbon repair?

Stupid question but

Have u heed the battery in remote?
post #3263 of 3723
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Originally Posted by vigga View Post

Well, I made it over a year, but my unit has finally stopped replying to remote codes - I fear input switching and total non-functionality aren't far behind. What has the turn around time people have been experiencing for the ribbon repair?

It was two weeks for me and yours would go to the same place mine went ... if it's not the battery.
post #3264 of 3723
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Originally Posted by jmschnur View Post

Stupid question but

Have u heed the battery in remote?

The answer is sort of "Not Applicable": Codes originate from IR blasters controlled by a URC MRF-350 (no batteries there), which is controlled by a charging cradle living (when not in use) URC MX-980 - and when the batteries in that guy die (like it was left of the cradle for a long while) it is dead - no halfway with there. I can, incidentally, also see the IR blasters flashing.

So pretty sure something screwy with the 80.2 vs the remote
post #3265 of 3723
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Originally Posted by vigga View Post


The answer is sort of "Not Applicable": Codes originate from IR blasters controlled by a URC MRF-350 (no batteries there), which is controlled by a charging cradle living (when not in use) URC MX-980 - and when the batteries in that guy die (like it was left of the cradle for a long while) it is dead - no halfway with there. I can, incidentally, also see the IR blasters flashing.

So pretty sure something screwy with the 80.2 vs the remote

Too bad ; let us know. I have an 80.2 built in July 2010 and was hoping there was no clock ticking.

Joel
post #3266 of 3723
I looked on the back of my unit briefly and didn't see a build date - if its on the back of the box that's in storage... but as you can see on page 8 of this thread, I was among the first people (if not the first) to post on this thread with one in the U.S, so it was a pretty early build.
post #3267 of 3723
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Originally Posted by vigga View Post

I looked on the back of my unit briefly and didn't see a build date - if its on the back of the box that's in storage... but as you can see on page 8 of this thread, I was among the first people (if not the first) to post on this thread with one in the U.S, so it was a pretty early build.

Your serial number will tell you . I believe the 7,8, 9 digits. It is explained somewhere in the breakdown thread.
post #3268 of 3723
Quick question that I need help with:

My 80.2 has been working flawlessly and I'm enjoying it a lot. One recent issue is that I recently moved all my music to a Buffalo NAS and the 80.2 can see it and see the folders but does not see anything in any of the folders ???

Any suggestions for me please? Thx.
post #3269 of 3723
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Originally Posted by Solon-HD Install View Post

Quick question that I need help with:

My 80.2 has been working flawlessly and I'm enjoying it a lot. One recent issue is that I recently moved all my music to a Buffalo NAS and the 80.2 can see it and see the folders but does not see anything in any of the folders ???

Any suggestions for me please? Thx.

What file format are you using?
post #3270 of 3723
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Originally Posted by LJN View Post

More Q from a 80.2 newbie: Oppo BDP-93 or -95? I now the 95 model should have superior/better analogue ouput. Then I wonder, what quality have the analogue cd and 5.1 bypass input on the 80.2 unit? Are that any technical/electrical difference between cd and 5.1 analouge input?

Or is it better to stick with the 93 model and use the digital connection?

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Originally Posted by SoundofMind View Post

Yes, that's the usual advice on the Oppo threads for someone who owns such an up-to-date and capable unit as the 80.2: get a 93, connect via HDMI and fugettaboudit.

I have done some tests with the Oppo 83 and 83SE comparing analog and digital and I'd basically agree with that advice. Especially if you use Audyssey, you are unlikely to hear much difference and it does not make much sense to do a DAC conversion in the player, then ADC and DAC in the pre/pro. But feel free to pose your question on the Oppo 93 or 95 thread.

I agree with SoundofMind. I have both the Integra 80.2 and the Oppo 93. The Oppo is hooked up to the Integra using HDMI and the PQ and SQ absolutely rock. As I posted in the Calibrator's forum a few days ago, both the PQ and SQ improved night and day after I had both professionally calibrated. Even though I used Audyssey to calibrate the SQ, the professional calibration did wonders and even my family members commented on the improvement after the calibration.

Bottom line as SoundofMind put it, connect the two units using HDMI and "fugettaboudit"!

Cal68
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