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post #331 of 3723
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Originally Posted by mcallister View Post

Thanks vigga!!

One more question. I think the ethernet port on my 80.2 is not working. When I first hooked everything up the network settings were grayed out so I coulndn't get to them. I tried a different cable and was then able to get to the network setting, internet radio, check firmware etc.

Today the network is grayed out again and I tried a different cable again which didn't work this time. Am I missing something?

I had the same problem - see below --

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post #332 of 3723
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Originally Posted by vigga View Post


Set the Oppo to "Source Direct", 1080p24 "On". This basically turns the Oppo into a transport - it'll send out exactly what's on the disc. You'll need then set-up the 80.2 to do the de-interlacing and scaling.

Except the Oppo has the better deinterlacing and scaling chip. I'd set the Oppo to deinterlacr and scale and set the 80.2 to through. I'v made the comparison between the Oppo and my DHC-9.9, and prefer the Oppo to deinterlace and scale.
post #333 of 3723
Anybody have a review in this yet? I was kind of dead set on this unit but it seems a little buggy. I'd love to hear some peoples positive experiences with the 80.2.
post #334 of 3723
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Originally Posted by mcallister View Post

Thanks vigga!!

One more question. I think the ethernet port on my 80.2 is not working. When I first hooked everything up the network settings were grayed out so I coulndn't get to them. I tried a different cable and was then able to get to the network setting, internet radio, check firmware etc.

Today the network is grayed out again and I tried a different cable again which didn't work this time. Am I missing something?

When I first unboxed I was having the same problem and no amount of reboots, clears, power cycles helped. But after setting it up I looked and network was available. I work great until tonight and in the middle of streaming pandora, the network dropped out and was no longer available in setup.

I tried different cables and network switches without success. Also clearing the settings. No joy.

So I started thinking about what I messed with when I was setting up and realized I messed with monitor out: HDMI. HDMI 1.4 has ethernet. So on a whim, I set my monitor outputs to 'analog', hopped back over to hardware and network is AVAILABLE AGAIN. I then set monitor out back to HDMI and ethernet stayed available. I bet there is a bug with their internal ethernet switch.

Let me know if this works for you.
post #335 of 3723
I received my 80.2 last Monday. After owning it for a week I am ready to put my 9.8 back in service. I never had syncing issues with the 9.8. I am getting fed up with this thing and my direcTv DVR. Trying to watch tv is like playing roulette. Not sure if you are going to get a picture or not, just roll the dice and see what happens. If you don't get a picture, it can take a long time to get it back. The worst part, for some reason, every time you skip forward or back on the DVR, I hear a click from the 80.2. I have even lost the picture a couple of times just QS through a commercial. Lately, we have been letting it run through commercials just so we don't lose the picture. I still have not found a way to consistently get it back. Turning everything off and then back on works sometime, pulling out the HDMI cable and plugging it back in the DVD sometimes works, but the trick I found last night which may end up being the root of all evil here. I found that if I set the resolution on the DVR to 720p it brought the picture back and we did not lose it all night. I think the 80.2 has a problem with 1080p. I have tried changing just about every setting in the 80.2 except "resolution = through" as this will net me a black screen every time. Auto seems to be the only one that works the most often.

I have tried replacing all of the cables once again with new 1.4 HDMI cables and the problem still exist. I must say that it looks like I am one of the lucky ones as my Ethernet works great. This is the only thing that is keeping this unit in my rack. I love being able to access my iTunes library on my mac. This alone is worth working through the problems here.

BTW, I see a lot of people bashing XLR connections. I decided to try some this time around. The only thing I can say is WOW. Unfortunately, I did not AB the old cables, but I can tell you there is a significant sound difference between the 9.8 and 80.2 and the only thing that changed was the cables. I am not aware that there were many changes made to the sound quality of this unit over the 9.8. I went from MTI Terminator 2 cables to cheap Monoprice Premium XLR (3ft cables.) I can't believe how much better this 80.2 sounds over my old 9.8.

Hopefully, Integra will fix these issues fast and upgrade the firmware.
post #336 of 3723
Are these issues being forwarded to Integra?
Do they monitor these forum sites for feedback?
I just picked up my 80.2 and I'm afraid to open the box...
post #337 of 3723
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Originally Posted by jmschnur View Post

Were you using video processing while this was going on or straight thru? What surge protector do you use?

I think there are sequencing issues that may be important- i.e. Try having the tv on prior to doing the hard reset.

Joel

I didn't get a chance to watch a movie yesterday, but did spend a fair amount of time watching TV while I worked on my remote. No signals loss or interuptions, things worked fine. I don't have a video processor in the mix, can't remember if I have the HDMI out set to source or auto at the moment. And my surge protector is a pretty basic Belkin.
post #338 of 3723
My unit seems to be working fine without any sync issues. I am using Verizon FiOS. No VP in the chain. Seems like most issues are with some VP's & sat boxes.
post #339 of 3723
My unit so far has been fine. I am extreemly pleased with the quality of the sound. I won't miss my Denon AVP/POA combo at all.
post #340 of 3723
I must same I am more than impressed with the sound coming out of my speakers since the upgrade. Very pleased in that regards. I have not had any network problems with the limiting testing I've done there either.

The only trouble I've had so far is the one bad experience watching a movie. I need to spend some more time with it obviously.
post #341 of 3723
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Originally Posted by wrk24wheel View Post

I received my 80.2 last Monday. After owning it for a week I am ready to put my 9.8 back in service. I never had syncing issues with the 9.8. I am getting fed up with this thing and my direcTv DVR. Trying to watch tv is like playing roulette. Not sure if you are going to get a picture or not, just roll the dice and see what happens. If you don't get a picture, it can take a long time to get it back. The worst part, for some reason, every time you skip forward or back on the DVR, I hear a click from the 80.2. I have even lost the picture a couple of times just QS through a commercial. Lately, we have been letting it run through commercials just so we don't lose the picture. I still have not found a way to consistently get it back. Turning everything off and then back on works sometime, pulling out the HDMI cable and plugging it back in the DVD sometimes works, but the trick I found last night which may end up being the root of all evil here. I found that if I set the resolution on the DVR to 720p it brought the picture back and we did not lose it all night. I think the 80.2 has a problem with 1080p. I have tried changing just about every setting in the 80.2 except "resolution = through" as this will net me a black screen every time. Auto seems to be the only one that works the most often.

I have tried replacing all of the cables once again with new 1.4 HDMI cables and the problem still exist. I must say that it looks like I am one of the lucky ones as my Ethernet works great. This is the only thing that is keeping this unit in my rack. I love being able to access my iTunes library on my mac. This alone is worth working through the problems here.

BTW, I see a lot of people bashing XLR connections. I decided to try some this time around. The only thing I can say is WOW. Unfortunately, I did not AB the old cables, but I can tell you there is a significant sound difference between the 9.8 and 80.2 and the only thing that changed was the cables. I am not aware that there were many changes made to the sound quality of this unit over the 9.8. I went from MTI Terminator 2 cables to cheap Monoprice Premium XLR (3ft cables.) I can't believe how much better this 80.2 sounds over my old 9.8.

Hopefully, Integra will fix these issues fast and upgrade the firmware.

Have you set the DVR to auto out when you see your problems?

If you set your DVR to 720p out for everything all works and there are no problems?



What is the resolution being sent to the TV from the 80.2? Are you doing any video processing- 720p to 1080i ...?
What is the Direct TV DVR? Do you have latest firmware. Is this problem only for recordings but also for live? HD channels versus SD same kind of issues?

Do you have lip sync issues when it is working?

I have an HR20-100 and the latest firmware did fix some issues for me-but on my 885p I have seen nothing like you are reporting. The 80.2 I have ordered has not yet arrived-due on Wednesday PM.

Any other Direct TV users with an 80.2 seeing this?

Have you contacted technical support about this?

Joel
post #342 of 3723
So I sent an email to integra today regarding my ethernet issue. They replied within an hour or so asking for more info. I sent them another email explaining my issue and pointing them to this thread mentioning I'm not the only one having problems. Hopefully this will get a new firmware release on the move.
post #343 of 3723
Well less than 15 minutes after emailing Integra for the second time and posting above I received this reply:

"Mike,
We are aware of the issue and are currently working on getting this resolved. Once we have a resolution I will let you know. Should you need to contact us regarding this matter refer to ticket ####"

So looks like they are working on more firmware updates
post #344 of 3723
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Originally Posted by mcallister View Post

Well less than 15 minutes after emailing Integra for the second time...

Mike I'm glad you contacted them and thanks for the update. Hopefully they'll have a fix soon.

Does anybody have a sense of how quickly they turn around fixes?
post #345 of 3723
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Originally Posted by mcallister View Post

So I sent an email to integra today regarding my ethernet issue. They replied within an hour or so asking for more info. I sent them another email explaining my issue and pointing them to this thread mentioning I'm not the only one having problems. Hopefully this will get a new firmware release on the move.

If your or anyone else is having issues with the ethernet a good idea would be to capture the ethernet traffic on your network and forward to Integra. You can use wireshark for this. Glad to hear you got such a quick response from Integra. Quite the opposite during the 9.8 release.

(I see now they have acknowledged the problem.... again, I am pleasantly surprised with their quick response)
post #346 of 3723
I have an 80.2 in route. Now I will need to get rid of it for personal reasons. PM me if interested in it for less than I paid.
post #347 of 3723
Seems like Integra has learned their lesson from 9.8 debacle. They seem to be addressing problems with periodic firmware upgrades with the newer models.
post #348 of 3723
My 80.2 arrived today around 5:30pm. Took me longer than I expected to get it all wired up.

First, even as an engineer and someone who loves figuring technology out, the manual SUCKS.

I haven't run speaker setup or Audyssey yet, family needed to watch TV.

I have a new Sony NX810 TV and all audio passes from the TV to the 80.2 with no issues. I get the audio from the TV tuner, Netflix, YouTube, etc...nice. The TV power also powers up the receiver and visa versa. Oddly, when I have this enabled, the Sony TV volume OSD shows the TV volume moving and the 80.2 vol moving even though the TV has it's internal speakers enabled. When I don't have the control over HDMI enabled, this doesn't happen.

So far all works, network, HDMI with the OPPO BDP83, the DirectTV HR22. I DO NOT like the relays that click every time I skip forward with the direct TV DVR. Maybe I'll stop noticing, but it sounds like 10 relays clicking every time the audio stream is disrupted. My old Proceed didn't do this.

With my old Proceed AVP I could define volume presets and call them with the remote. I can't find a way to do that with the 80.2. Is there any way to have each input start with a custom volume level?

From reading the marginal manual, it seems you can have each input have custom video processing but I can't seem to make that work. I'd like to send native resolution from the direct TV DVR to the 80.2 and try the scaling in the 80.2 to compare to the Sony TV.

So far no issues other than the clicking relays.
post #349 of 3723
Hi guys

Was trying to get a price on the DTR 80.2 unit and a local dealer quoted me 2800. Thought this was way too high. Anyone have a MSRP on this unit? Pm's welcome

Thanks in advance
post #350 of 3723
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Originally Posted by guju69 View Post

Hi guys

Was trying to get a price on the DTR 80.2 unit and a local dealer quoted me 2800. Thought this was way too high. Anyone have a MSRP on this unit? Pm's welcome

Thanks in advance

Msrp has been mentioned a number of times in this thread. It is $2300 US and $3200 in Canada.
post #351 of 3723
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Originally Posted by roar View Post

Msrp has been mentioned a number of times in this thread. It is $2300 US and $3200 in Canada.

He is actually in the wrong thread he was quoted the correct price for the DTR-80.2 (receiver).

This thread is for the DHC-80.2. $2800 is MSRP for the DTR but you should be able to get it under MSRP
post #352 of 3723
Dtr is a receiver. Dhc is the pre pro. Dtr's cost more
post #353 of 3723
Does anyone have any experience with the HDMI Audio Sync feature? Should this generally be used?
post #354 of 3723
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Originally Posted by vigga View Post

Does anyone have any experience with the HDMI Audio Sync feature? Should this generally be used?

I have used this with varying success with my onkyo 885 and my direct tv. Usually issues were at the DTV end.

Are you having issues with lip syc with your dvd/blu ray player?

Recently this issue has gotten better without intervention from me for DTV. I have never noticed an audio sync with my Oppo. I guess the automatic audio handshakes take care of this.



Joel
post #355 of 3723
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Originally Posted by Joe Jensen View Post

My 80.2 arrived today around 5:30pm. Took me longer than I expected to get it all wired up.

First, even as an engineer and someone who loves figuring technology out, the manual SUCKS.

I haven't run speaker setup or Audyssey yet, family needed to watch TV.

I have a new Sony NX810 TV and all audio passes from the TV to the 80.2 with no issues. I get the audio from the TV tuner, Netflix, YouTube, etc...nice. The TV power also powers up the receiver and visa versa. Oddly, when I have this enabled, the Sony TV volume OSD shows the TV volume moving and the 80.2 vol moving even though the TV has it's internal speakers enabled. When I don't have the control over HDMI enabled, this doesn't happen.

So far all works, network, HDMI with the OPPO BDP83, the DirectTV HR22. I DO NOT like the relays that click every time I skip forward with the direct TV DVR. Maybe I'll stop noticing, but it sounds like 10 relays clicking every time the audio stream is disrupted. My old Proceed didn't do this.

With my old Proceed AVP I could define volume presets and call them with the remote. I can't find a way to do that with the 80.2. Is there any way to have each input start with a custom volume level?

From reading the marginal manual, it seems you can have each input have custom video processing but I can't seem to make that work. I'd like to send native resolution from the direct TV DVR to the 80.2 and try the scaling in the 80.2 to compare to the Sony TV.

So far no issues other than the clicking relays.

All of the above can be done fairly easy in the setup menu. You are able to set up custom volumes levels as well as video resolutions per input. One other nice feature I found was being able to temporarily adjust audio settings per input. They will be removed as soon as the preamp goes into standby mode.

For the Video setup, click on the input you want to adjust and then click on the setup button and go to Source Setup. Scroll down to resolution and you can set the pass through or resolution for that input. Repeat this for each input you want to change.

As for the audio, I believe that you will have to set a default volume across the board. Then in Source Setup, you can vary the volume +-12db (intellivolume) per input using the same steps as above.
post #356 of 3723
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Originally Posted by mcallister View Post

He is actually in the wrong thread he was quoted the correct price for the DTR-80.2 (receiver).

This thread is for the DHC-80.2. $2800 is MSRP for the DTR but you should be able to get it under MSRP

Ah yes... good eye!
post #357 of 3723
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Originally Posted by jmschnur View Post


Are you having issues with lip syc with your dvd/blu ray player?

Joel

Lip sync was an issue that I never had to think about with my previous Denon - but yes, I'm having sync issues with my BDP-83 and SD-DVD's.
post #358 of 3723
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Originally Posted by vigga View Post

Lip sync was an issue that I never had to think about with my previous Denon - but yes, I'm having sync issues with my BDP-83 and SD-DVD's.

Two places to adjust- I would start with the Oppo with its latest beta firmware. Go to extremes so you know you are making a difference then work down. Problem may be that different DVDs give you differerent timings. Joe Kanes DVE in SD might be useful here- it has a sequence to adjust the timings. There is a blu ray version of this but given your comment the problem is with SD not blu ray.


You may also want to check the audio setting for SD in the Integra. See if there is a problem with set to stereo and then move on the other settings for a given phrase.

I have same set up for DVDs so when I set I will check this out on my setup later on this week.

Good luck



Joel
post #359 of 3723
I have JK SD DVE disc - i'll give that a try.
post #360 of 3723
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Originally Posted by Joe Jensen View Post

So far all works, network, HDMI with the OPPO BDP83, the DirectTV HR22. I DO NOT like the relays that click every time I skip forward with the direct TV DVR. Maybe I'll stop noticing, but it sounds like 10 relays clicking every time the audio stream is disrupted. My old Proceed didn't do this.

With my old Proceed AVP I could define volume presets and call them with the remote. I can't find a way to do that with the 80.2. Is there any way to have each input start with a custom volume level?

From reading the marginal manual, it seems you can have each input have custom video processing but I can't seem to make that work. I'd like to send native resolution from the direct TV DVR to the 80.2 and try the scaling in the 80.2 to compare to the Sony TV.

So far no issues other than the clicking relays.

Have you tried mapping your audio sources to default listening modes? Meaning selecting the Direct TV input and mapping all audio sources to specific listening modes (e.g Doby PLII, etc.). That used to take care of the clicking issues with older Integra/Onkyo models but it seems that some users could not fix the clicking problem with their 80.1.
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