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post #3421 of 3823
I solved the issue.. It was a grounding problem. I called Integra and got a hold of someone knowledgeable. He told me it was a grounding issue and to attach a single stranded wire from ground loop on the Integra to my amp. I bought a single stranded wire 14awg from lowes, along with a couple spade lugs attached to each end. Hooked it up and no pop!!
post #3422 of 3823
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Originally Posted by jslaw81 View Post

I solved the issue.. It was a grounding problem. I called Integra and got a hold of someone knowledgeable. He told me it was a grounding issue and to attach a single stranded wire from ground loop on the Integra to my amp. I bought a single stranded wire 14awg from lowes, along with a couple spade lugs attached to each end. Hooked it up and no pop!!

How did you find someone knowledgeable to talk to a Integra.
post #3423 of 3823
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How did you find someone knowledgeable to talk to a Integra.

I got lucky.. I called around 10am.. Usually I call in the afternoon or early evening and get people that don't know much and right away say it needs to be serviced.
post #3424 of 3823
Hey Guys, I am looking into possibly getting this Pre/Pro or the DHC-80.3. What are the main differences between the 2?

They look pretty much the same to me.

Thanks.
post #3425 of 3823
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Originally Posted by 04rex View Post

Hey Guys, I am looking into possibly getting this Pre/Pro or the DHC-80.3. What are the main differences between the 2?

They look pretty much the same to me.

Thanks.

Video processing to 4k.
post #3426 of 3823
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Originally Posted by jslaw81 View Post

I got lucky.. I called around 10am.. Usually I call in the afternoon or early evening and get people that don't know much and right away say it needs to be serviced.

Got a phone number?
post #3427 of 3823
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Got a phone number?

Just called the 1800 number that's on the website. The person I got was the luck of the draw.
post #3428 of 3823
I just got a B-stock 80.2 and im having an issue. The picture looks way better when I bypass the 80.2 and go hdmi strait to the TV and use optical for audio, but then I loose out on some of the DTS-HD bitstreaming. I set the picture mode to through and pressed the VCR & return button to set the 80.2 video processing to skip yet there is still a substantial difference. It is most noticable on movies where the crop line cycles up and down a pixel. Is there any way to get arround the video processing in the 80.2 or increase the quality? I might have to return the unit if this is an unavoidable effect.

Thanks for the help!
post #3429 of 3823
When I turn video processing off (vcr/dvr and return) I can no longer see on screen things like the volume changing etc. Am I doing something wrong as I can not understand why that would happen.
post #3430 of 3823
OSD is "video processing."
post #3431 of 3823
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OSD is "video processing."

Is that ALL it is?
post #3432 of 3823
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Is that ALL it is?

If you turn off the video processing in your AVR, then there is no video processing output at all to the screen - it is all bypassed completely and the picture from the source is sent direct to the screen. So you can't see the on-screen display for that reason.
post #3433 of 3823
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If you turn off the video processing in your AVR, then there is no video processing output at all to the screen - it is all bypassed completely and the picture from the source is sent direct to the screen. So you can't see the on-screen display for that reason.

Has anyone done a careful check to see if turning it off actually improves the picture over leaving it on?
post #3434 of 3823
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Has anyone done a careful check to see if turning it off actually improves the picture over leaving it on?

My calibrator told me that black levels/noise might improve a bit. My PJ was calibrated with it simply not active. I do still have the OSD though. It's a simple enough process to turn it off, but I just haven't taken the time.

Jeff
post #3435 of 3823
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Is that ALL it is?

Er, no, it can apply a full blown video calibration and do upscaling. But it is also how the OSD is overlayed onto the image.
post #3436 of 3823
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Has anyone done a careful check to see if turning it off actually improves the picture over leaving it on?

I believe Kris Deering did measurements that showed Chroma errors if it wasnt bypassed, but he said they were undetectable to the eye.
post #3437 of 3823
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I believe Kris Deering did measurements that showed Chroma errors if it wasnt bypassed, but he said they were undetectable to the eye.

Thanks.
post #3438 of 3823
Anyone here a former 80.1 owner? I have an 80.1 and recently bought to a 3d display. I don't need hdmi 1.4, my br player has 2 hdmi outs. It would be nice to have 1.4 and I have heard x32 is far superior to the audyssey in the 80.1. So I guess I'm asking if it's worth the upgrade.
post #3439 of 3823
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I believe Kris Deering did measurements that showed Chroma errors if it wasnt bypassed, but he said they were undetectable to the eye.

Chris Heinonen's review of the Onkyo at Secrets documents the specifics of the problem:
http://www.hometheaterhifi.com/surro...-receiver.html

The manual suggests that you turn off the video processing for optimal performance. You will lose any overlays, but you can still get the on-screen menu's for set-up, etc.
post #3440 of 3823
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Originally Posted by g_bartman View Post

Anyone here a former 80.1 owner? I have an 80.1 and recently bought to a 3d display. I don't need hdmi 1.4, my br player has 2 hdmi outs. It would be nice to have 1.4 and I have heard x32 is far superior to the audyssey in the 80.1. So I guess I'm asking if it's worth the upgrade.

I didn't own the 80.1, but XT32 is really pretty great.
post #3441 of 3823
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Originally Posted by vigga View Post

I didn't own the 80.1, but XT32 is really pretty great.

That's what I have heard but I'm pretty happy with the sound I have now. What will 32 do to improve that?
post #3442 of 3823
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Originally Posted by g_bartman View Post

That's what I have heard but I'm pretty happy with the sound I have now. What will 32 do to improve that?


I suggest you ask this question in the dedicated Audyssey thread.

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=795421
post #3443 of 3823
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That's what I have heard but I'm pretty happy with the sound I have now. What will 32 do to improve that?

Depends how tough your room is. But honestly, if you are happy, why consider the upgrade? XT32 and HDMI 1.4 were the main differences as far as I recall - so if you're not upgrading for either or both of those...what's the point?

Johnla is right - check out the dedicated Audyssey thread.

For me, it was XT32. I had previously used a Audyssey SubEQ to deal with the bass in my room, which was particularly challenging. XT32 essentially incorporates the SubEQ functionality into the processor, so I could get rid of a box - always a good thing. I now have dual subs - another thing XT32 is capable of dealing with better than XT.
post #3444 of 3823
The big thing, is the increase in the number of filters that XT32 brings.
As per the Audyssey webpage. http://www.audyssey.com/audio-technology/multeq



"Audyssey room correction technology comes in four solutions: MultEQ XT32, MultEQ XT, MultEQ and 2EQ. While they are all built on the same core science, each is designed to operate within the constraints of the available DSP processing power.

MultEQ XT32
Our newest and most accurate room correction solution with more than ten thousand individual control points allowing finer details of the room's problems to be captured and corrected. The ultra high resolution filters are applied to all channels including the subwoofers, with the most obvious benefit being heard in the low frequency range where correction is needed the most.
MultEQ XT
Our advanced resolution room correction solution with high resolution equalization filters for satellites and subwoofers. Most products with MultEQ XT are installer-ready and can be calibrated by an Audyssey Registered Installer to provide even higher performance for even the most demanding large or odd-shaped rooms.
MultEQ
Our standard resolution room correction solution that uses mid-level resolution filters for satellites and subwoofers."



Filter resolution (satellites)

MultEQ XT32 has 512x

MultEQXT has 16x

MultEQ has 2x

Filter resolution (subwoofer)

MultEQ XT32 has 512x

MultEQXT has 128x

MultEQ has 128x
post #3445 of 3823
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Originally Posted by g_bartman View Post

That's what I have heard but I'm pretty happy with the sound I have now. What will 32 do to improve that?

I have owned a 9.8, 80.1 and 80.2. The sonic improvement was quite noticeable at each step. Most of my listening is done via SACD or Blu-rays to classical music, and I attend a lot of live classical concerts.

I use Audyssey Pro, which provides graphs of before and after response. They show considerable improvement in frequency linearity in the 80-500 Hz range, which is the range of most musical fundamentals. Response was improved from about a 3 dB variation with XT to under 1 dB in this range by XT/32. The rest of the response curves are pretty much spot on the target curve with either. I can only say that the results are more true to life now with even better focus and imaging. The adjective I use for the sonic improvement is that it is noticeably more beautiful now than ever before. The upgrade was more than worth it. XT was good, but 32 is really, really good.

There may possibly be more to the improvement than just XT/32. I now use lower sub xovers than before, since there is no longer an advantage of increased filter resolution in the sub channel. XT/32's filter resolution is much higher across all channels.
post #3446 of 3823
Thanks guys. My display is 3d so 1.4 switching would be a benefit as well. I'm always in pursuit of the best sound from my system as possible so the x32 would be a worthwhile investment for me. Time to make a decision
post #3447 of 3823
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Originally Posted by g_bartman View Post

thanks guys. My display is 3d so 1.4 switching would be a benefit as well. I'm always in pursuit of the best sound from my system as possible so the x32 would be a worthwhile investment for me.

+1
post #3448 of 3823
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+1

+2
post #3449 of 3823
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Originally Posted by g_bartman View Post

Anyone here a former 80.1 owner? I have an 80.1 and recently bought to a 3d display. I don't need hdmi 1.4, my br player has 2 hdmi outs. It would be nice to have 1.4 and I have heard x32 is far superior to the audyssey in the 80.1. So I guess I'm asking if it's worth the upgrade.

No
post #3450 of 3823
Yes
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