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post #3601 of 6194
Bahahahaha! You idiots think the shooting scene is believeable... ? Next thing you'll say are filing cabinets are bullet proof... Wow...
post #3602 of 6194
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Originally Posted by Vipfreak View Post

Bahahahaha! You idiots think the shooting scene is believeable... ? Next thing you'll say are filing cabinets are bullet proof... Wow...

Yea that was one of the worst shooting scenes I have ever seen on T.V, great episode though and set up some good plot lines to push rest of the season, such as is Merle a mole, is Rick done being crazy or atleast somewhat, what exactly does Gov got planned, is Glenn poised to take a more leadership role especially if Rick can't get his ish together. Going to be a fun end to the season IMO!
post #3603 of 6194
For crissake, it WAS NOT Andrea in the bread van! ...and about the clean truck....RAM must be a show sponsor, as is Hyundai....if you notice, the Hyundai SUV is always clean...must be a condition of sponsorship.
post #3604 of 6194
We have NO IDEA who was in the bread van, so please enlighten us on how it couldn't be her.
post #3605 of 6194
Why would the woman driving the van be Andrea? That doesn't make any sense at all. We've seen that there are women fighters on the governor's crew. The governor probably picked the fastest runner to drive the van.

I can ignore the unrealistic firefight. It makes for good drama. Stupid plots are something else. Merle being a deep cover mole? Andrea trying to kill her friends just to win the governor's trust? I don't think the writers would go that way. This isn't "24".
post #3606 of 6194
As ex-miliary with combat experience, if you honestly think that while you are under heavy fire, from a surprise attack, and other than Rick have no real weapons training that I know of and can maintain your composure, stay calm, aim, breath steady, etc you are mistaken ..it's some women, an old man, and a kid

That's my defense of Ricks crew .. the Govs people had no excuse .. they took Axel out with one head shot and went downhill from there .. in fact, it looked to me like the Gov himself was playing at being Rambo and was not even trying to hit anything .. ..

I was going to let this topic alone, but when I saw somebody post something about idiots and the shooting scene ...
post #3607 of 6194
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Originally Posted by mgkdragn View Post

As ex-miliary with combat experience, if you honestly think that while you are under heavy fire, from a surprise attack, and other than Rick have no real weapons training that I know of and can maintain your composure, stay calm, aim, breath steady, etc you are mistaken ..it's some women, an old man, and a kid

That's my defense of Ricks crew .. the Govs people had no excuse .. they took Axel out with one head shot and went downhill from there .. in fact, it looked to me like the Gov himself was playing at being Rambo and was not even trying to hit anything .. ..

I was going to let this topic alone, but when I saw somebody post something about idiots and the shooting scene ...
I'm with you with everyone but the kid.

He's been potrayed multiple times as having gun skills, right from the very first episode of this season where he helps his father clear a house of zombies and later when he rescues the people that seek shelter in the prison while his father is away.

If there's any complaint with his portrayal is that he shoots one handed too much, a bad trait he apparently picked up from his father, who does as well.
post #3608 of 6194
^^^ .. yeah, I can see that .. I was looking at it as being more long range when the Gov attacked, where some of the parts you mention were more short range .. Carl, for his age, does seem to be pretty good with a side arm .. it was Shane, I think, that introduced him to weaponry .. ???
post #3609 of 6194
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Originally Posted by slowbiscuit View Post

We have NO IDEA who was in the bread van, so please enlighten us on how it couldn't be her.

First of all she was still in town and didn't know where the Governor was while told he was "out on a run"....so you figure she lined up a van, then rounded up a bunch of zombies, and donned some riot gear and drove out to the prison in hopes the governor was there - just in time to really help the attack?

Second, if you saw the previews for the next ep at the end of the show, it's pretty clear (at least to me)
post #3610 of 6194
^^^ Like I said earlier .. I'll lay money on Andrea not being the driver ..
post #3611 of 6194
I think the Van driver was "Karen", although it could be Andrea.... It sure looked like a female ..
The Governor and his group apparently have ammo to burn, and it sounds like Rick's group is running low..
post #3612 of 6194
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Originally Posted by fhall1 View Post

First of all she was still in town and didn't know where the Governor was while told he was "out on a run"....so you figure she lined up a van, then rounded up a bunch of zombies, and donned some riot gear and drove out to the prison in hopes the governor was there - just in time to really help the attack?

Second, if you saw the previews for the next ep at the end of the show, it's pretty clear (at least to me)

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Originally Posted by mgkdragn View Post

^^^ Like I said earlier .. I'll lay money on Andrea not being the driver ..


Agree 100%


Djoel
post #3613 of 6194
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Originally Posted by mgkdragn View Post

As ex-miliary with combat experience, if you honestly think that while you are under heavy fire, from a surprise attack, and other than Rick have no real weapons training that I know of and can maintain your composure, stay calm, aim, breath steady, etc you are mistaken ..it's some women, an old man, and a kid

Right .... I had enough trouble qualifying on the "pop-up" ranges ... it's probably a good thing I never had to test my "skills."
post #3614 of 6194
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Originally Posted by HDTVChallenged View Post

Right .... I had enough trouble qualifying on the "pop-up" ranges ... it's probably a good thing I never had to test my "skills."

At least we know we can rely on you when the real zombie apocalypse occurs. smile.gif
post #3615 of 6194
Here is a video of the gunfight if you guys want to disect it some more: Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)

Edited by RemoWilliams84 - 2/20/13 at 2:06pm
post #3616 of 6194
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Originally Posted by RemoWilliams84 View Post

Here is a video of the gunfight if you guys want to disect it some more:
Awesome.
post #3617 of 6194
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Originally Posted by fhall1 View Post

First of all she was still in town and didn't know where the Governor was while told he was "out on a run"....so you figure she lined up a van, then rounded up a bunch of zombies, and donned some riot gear and drove out to the prison in hopes the governor was there - just in time to really help the attack?

Second, if you saw the previews for the next ep at the end of the show, it's pretty clear (at least to me)

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Originally Posted by mgkdragn View Post

^^^ Like I said earlier .. I'll lay money on Andrea not being the driver ..

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Originally Posted by Djoel View Post


Agree 100%


Djoel

Agreed.

It was not Andrea, for the above mentioned reasons and also, the woman that was driving was petite. Andrea has a bigger frame than the driver.

Originally, I thought it was the dark haired woman that was on the wall, because she has the right build for it, but as mentioned with Andrea, she wouldn't have time to respond to Andrea and then jump in the bread truck and haul ass to the prison.

Another point to raise......Andrea doesn't even know where the prison is.
post #3618 of 6194
I really hope Tyreese's group shows back up next week. Would be a stupid move to just leave them out completely.
post #3619 of 6194
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Originally Posted by fhall1 View Post

First of all she was still in town and didn't know where the Governor was while told he was "out on a run"....so you figure she lined up a van, then rounded up a bunch of zombies, and donned some riot gear and drove out to the prison in hopes the governor was there - just in time to really help the attack?

Second, if you saw the previews for the next ep at the end of the show, it's pretty clear (at least to me)

My post was simply to point out that none of us know who was driving the van, not that I think it was Andrea. You can't say 'there's NO WAY' it was Andrea, because we don't know.

I don't think it was her, but it certainly looked like a woman's frame.
post #3620 of 6194
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Originally Posted by slowbiscuit View Post

My post was simply to point out that none of us know who was driving the van, not that I think it was Andrea. You can't say 'there's NO WAY' it was Andrea, because we don't know.

I don't think it was her, but it certainly looked like a woman's frame.

I'll say it: NO WAY was it Andrea. She's not going to be part of an attack, with dubious motives or chance of success, on the very group of which she was once a part. That makes no thematic sense, especially given that she's losing her faith & trust in the Governor. Forget that she doesn't even know where the prison is.

It's always fun to see what people get fixated on in show threads. tongue.gif
post #3621 of 6194
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Originally Posted by archiguy View Post

I'll say it: NO WAY was it Andrea. She's not going to be part of an attack, with dubious motives or chance of success, on the very group of which she was once a part. That makes no thematic sense, especially given that she's losing her faith & trust in the Governor. Forget that she doesn't even know where the prison is.

It's always fun to see what people get fixated on in show threads. tongue.gif

I don't know if it's Andrea or not, but I'd say that you can't really go by what makes thematic sense when talking about this show. Especially the female characters.
post #3622 of 6194
It seemed obvious to me that the Gov's attack was purely symbolic. He wanted to rattle Rick's team and show them they're not safe. He did not intend to kill them all. That will come later. I don't know what he thinks will happen next, but possibilities are:
1) Rick's team will attack Woodbury and be wiped out;
2) After giving some time for Rick's team to get really nervous, he'll plan a full-on attack of the prison;
3) Due to the aforementioned seed planted in Rick's team, they'll tear each other apart and the Gov won't have to do anything else.

I'm not saying these things can be reasonably expected to happen, but we know the Gov is slightly unhinged, and he might think they'll happen.
post #3623 of 6194
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Originally Posted by dougotte View Post

It seemed obvious to me that the Gov's attack was purely symbolic. He wanted to rattle Rick's team and show them they're not safe. He did not intend to kill them all. That will come later. I don't know what he thinks will happen next, but possibilities are:
1) Rick's team will attack Woodbury and be wiped out;
2) After giving some time for Rick's team to get really nervous, he'll plan a full-on attack of the prison;
3) Due to the aforementioned seed planted in Rick's team, they'll tear each other apart and the Gov won't have to do anything else.

I'm not saying these things can be reasonably expected to happen, but we know the Gov is slightly unhinged, and he might think they'll happen.

I'd call the guy more than slightly unhinged .. eek.gif

With the wooded area around Woodbury such as it is, it would not be difficult to carefully plan an attack .. the guards are on a raised platform .. put Merle and Daryl outside the main gate, coordinate another group from the rear, have Merle and Daryl pick off the guards, give it a few minutes and as the rest of the town converges on the main gate, have group two attack from the rear ..

Or do as Hershel wants and hit the road ..

Anyway you slice it, the prison location has been compromised and it's unlikely the Gov is going to let up .. so it's fight and defend, attack or move on ..
post #3624 of 6194
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Originally Posted by mgkdragn View Post

I'd call the guy more than slightly unhinged .. eek.gif

With the wooded area around Woodbury such as it is, it would not be difficult to carefully plan an attack .. the guards are on a raised platform .. put Merle and Daryl outside the main gate, coordinate another group from the rear, have Merle and Daryl pick off the guards, give it a few minutes and as the rest of the town converges on the main gate, have group two attack from the rear ..

Or do as Hershel wants and hit the road ..

Anyway you slice it, the prison location has been compromised and it's unlikely the Gov is going to let up .. so it's fight and defend, attack or move on ..
Quite frankly, the prison is too big for them. It's too much turf to defend well.

They're be better off finding a smaller school somewhere that has a good fence and barricading themselves off in it. Something out in suburbia would be easier to see an enemy coming by likely being surrounded by athletic fields. Or, go for an older (probably repurposed) school that was once named Kennedy High or something like that which would likely have plenty of places to set up panic rooms. For example, my elementary school had a bomb shelter in it from the 50's. It also had confined doorways and hallways that would provide choke points for threats and the place was a maze with levels that didn't connect to other areas directly. The frontage has a good view of the road and the rear was flanked by a fast moving river. That's where I would have headed.

Everyone get's their own classroom to live in - preferrably on the second floor.

Even a smaller county jail or community college campus situation would be more controllable.

A prison is only a good place to hole up if there's no breach. There are too many that they don't even know about and there's no way to detect when others occur in a place that size.
post #3625 of 6194
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Originally Posted by NetworkTV View Post

Quite frankly, the prison is too big for them. It's too much turf to defend well.

They're be better off finding a smaller school somewhere that has a good fence and barricading themselves off in it. Something out in suburbia would be easier to see an enemy coming by likely being surrounded by athletic fields. Or, go for an older (probably repurposed) school that was once named Kennedy High or something like that which would likely have plenty of places to set up panic rooms. For example, my elementary school had a bomb shelter in it from the 50's.

Everyone get's their own classroom to live in - preferrably on the second floor.

If it were me, I'd want to move on rather than take my chances at the prison .. although I would like to see Rick's crew take out the Gov's .. even take out the fighters and move into town ..

Otherwise, I would attempt to locate a National Guard armory which tend to be smaller facilities as well as being fenced / razor wired ..

Or an abandoned missile silo .. underground storage facility .. mine .. anything that would have a single entrance that could be easily defended and fortified ..
post #3626 of 6194
Good call on the NG armories - even if they were picked clean of guns and ammo they'd still be great places to defend because many of them aren't that big and you only have to guard the front door. You'll always have the problem of finding food and ammo though.
post #3627 of 6194
But there would be no showdown with a cycloptic villain and his stupidly shortsighted henchmen.
post #3628 of 6194
The group should find a Telephone company Central office to use as a base. Concrete or brick construction, no first floor windows. The windows that they do have also have metal hurricane shutters that come down. In addition, most are also fenced and gated. ( I actually happen to work in one, in GA that would do nicely!)
post #3629 of 6194
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Originally Posted by smddoc View Post

The group should find a Telephone company Central office to use as a base. Concrete or brick construction, no first floor windows. The windows that they do have also have metal hurricane shutters that come down. In addition, most are also fenced and gated. ( I actually happen to work in one, in GA that would do nicely!)

There's building like that here in town. Apparently it's also nuclear blast reinforced from what I've read as my hometown was some sort of telecommunications hub during the Cold War. Hardly any windows at all and only 2 visible entrances, as it's just a 4 story rectangle.
post #3630 of 6194
The b&w Walking Dead looks really good on my projector. Gives
you a whole new perspective seeing it this way.
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