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Originally Posted by Selden Ball View Post

It wasn't mentioned in Talking Dead but my assumption was that he hit his head when he was knocked down by the bullet's impact.

Bullet impact with a vest on? It won't knock a man down. Cops get shot with vests on regularly - they don't just fall down and knock themselves out. That was a little weird to me to m too - but I guess it could be worse. It was at least better than the goofy stuff where somebody gets shot and goes flying backwards 3 feet.
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I guess that poor backpacker didn't get the memo that Morgan hasn't cleared that section of the state yet.

That was cold, but also a good hunch. This long into the apocalypse and the hiker can't take down a single zombie? Dead weight...smile.gif

I thought that was pretty cold too, and I was surprised at how calloused they were that they didn't even talk about it. A friend brought up a good point about encountering a solitary person at this point. It isn't a universal rule, but individuals likely cannot be trusted. The only reason someone would likely be surviving alone is that they can't keep friends, or worse, have malicious intent at this point in the Z.A. Your more trustworthy people are likely to be small groups of people that can function together. That hitchhiker may jump in the car and shoot everybody the second they fail to watch him and then take what he wants.
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Originally Posted by jakestir View Post

Great episode. Stupid "Previously On..." was a spoiler, I need to make sure to skip through that from now on.
When Carl and Michone went into the restaurant, it was the first time in a while I found it suspenseful.
Random things I really liked:
The poor hiker.
The sign on the road that said "Erin we tried for stone mountain" and then later you see a walker wearing a bracelet with the name Erin.
The chalk text on the walls.
The booby traps.
Rats on skateboards.
The colorful (paper mache?) cat.
Just an all around solid episode.
Stuff like that is cool. Thoughtful details.
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A friend brought up a good point about encountering a solitary person at this point. It isn't a universal rule, but individuals likely cannot be trusted.

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That hitchhiker may jump in the car and shoot everybody the second they fail to watch him and then take what he wants.

And it needed a fictional zombie apocalypse to make that apparent? That's a possibility with any hitchhiker, not just those in television fiction. Your friend needs to read the news more often and pay attention to those signs that say "do not stop for hitchhikers".

And the hitchhiker in Dead was a moron for drawing attention to himself. Hitchhikers are regularly assaulted in real life. In free-for-all apocalypse there was a good chance of being murdered by Rick just for his belongings. He should have hidden out of sight until he knew if they were the enemy or not.
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I've got to get me one of those SUVs with unlimited cargo space. They loaded countless bags of guns, ammo, the Pack n' Play, etc. and still had room for the hitchhiker's gear. rolleyes.gif Guess that's what product placement is all about.

Great episode - loved it!
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He should have hidden out of sight until he knew if they were the enemy or not.
Maybe he was just excited to get a glimpse of a brand new Hyundai Tuscon:)
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You'd think by now someone would have raided a sporting goods store. Get some football pads, maybe a hockey helmet. You know, a little extra protection.
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Originally Posted by d_m1010 View Post

I disagree. My wife and I both thought it was a dull 'filler' episode which didn't have much scare factor and the character development was meh.

Scare factor? Do any of the episodes have a scare factor? None of them are actually scary are they?
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Scare factor? Do any of the episodes have a scare factor? None of them are actually scary are they?
A while back I watched a movie on DVD that had been made for Syfy and FearNet. There was a commentary and ironically the director said he had some ideas for scarier scenes and Syfy gave thumbs up but FearNet said no. Maybe AMC doesn't want scary?
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Maybe the hitchhiker was trying to get help for his friend. He's the last survivor of his group and his arm stuck between two rocks. Now he has to wait for a zombie to chew it off instead because his friend won't be back. Or maybe his wife is pregnant and he needed some help. Or maybe he has a group of toddlers, from daycare, he's got them stuck in a bunker out of supplies and the group that was sent to get more hasn't come back. Now they just killed a bunch of toddlers.

Where do they get the gasoline to drive all over the state? They better start advertising some electric cars soon and solar panels, wind energy. Gasoline doesn't last forever.


I was thinking about this, when they showed the bodies in the cars that had been completely devoured. What happens if you've been bit and you're moments away from turning. Then a zombie comes and starts to chew on your leg, then you turn mid meal. Does the zombie keep eating you, or does your flesh suddenly turn into undead flesh and whatever makes them eat you turns off?


I don't remember if it was during the show or the preview of the next one, but I saw pallets stacked 2 high. They are really getting some use out of those pallets. I don't know why, because they can't stop bullets.

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A while back I watched a movie on DVD that had been made for Syfy and FearNet. There was a commentary and ironically the director said he had some ideas for scarier scenes and Syfy gave thumbs up but FearNet said no. Maybe AMC doesn't want scary?

I don't think WD is meant to be scary. Well, not jumpy scary. More scary when you look at how filthy a person becomes when they have no civilization.
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Originally Posted by d_m1010 View Post

I disagree. My wife and I both thought it was a dull 'filler' episode which didn't have much scare factor and the character development was meh.

‘Filler’ – maybe, not every episode can be zombie killing and Woodbury pillaging… but ‘meh’ on the character development? No way. Rick telling Morgan he had to come back… he was basically telling himself that. Michonne actually getting some speaking roles and bonding with Carl. Carl telling Rick she’s ‘one of us’ at the end of the episode. Geez, how much more do you need?
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Originally Posted by UGAd13 View Post

‘Filler’ – maybe, not every episode can be zombie killing and Woodbury pillaging… but ‘meh’ on the character development? No way. Rick telling Morgan he had to come back… he was basically telling himself that. Michonne actually getting some speaking roles and bonding with Carl. Carl telling Rick she’s ‘one of us’ at the end of the episode. Geez, how much more do you need?

Someone else said the show was great because there was no Andrea and no Gov. I quite agree with that sentiment.
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Imagine if Michonne and Morgan hook up, the ultimate killing machines! I wonder how I think they ever look at each other eyes..

Absolutely loved it how Michonne went all ninja including sword, and sneaked into the restaurant to fetch the photo and the cat (not to mention climbing onto a roof somehow)
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Originally Posted by aaronwt View Post

Scare factor? Do any of the episodes have a scare factor? None of them are actually scary are they?

Absolutely. They usually scare the daylights out of us!
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Someone else said the show was great because there was no Andrea and no Gov. I quite agree with that sentiment.

I agree with you there. Andrea is very bothersome.
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Originally Posted by UGAd13 View Post

‘Filler’ – maybe, not every episode can be zombie killing and Woodbury pillaging… but ‘meh’ on the character development? No way. Rick telling Morgan he had to come back… he was basically telling himself that. Michonne actually getting some speaking roles and bonding with Carl. Carl telling Rick she’s ‘one of us’ at the end of the episode. Geez, how much more do you need?

I suppose so, but we found that the episode was lacking and was not that compelling (story and character wise) unlike the majority of them. Speaking of Michonne, it was nice to see her not scowling at everyone with her wee beedy eyes for a change.
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I don't think WD is meant to be scary. Well, not jumpy scary. More scary when you look at how filthy a person becomes when they have no civilization.

I disagree. To me, the entire show has been predicated not just on the post apocalyptic situation, but a lot of 'jumpy scary' moments.
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Originally Posted by VisionOn View Post

Jeez, the pallet argument still going?

The pallets are for concealment not cover. There's a difference between the two (go look it up), but it's that simple.

First there was Parenting-gate... and Dale-gate... then there was Shane-gate and Farm-gate... now we have Andrea-gate and Pallet-gate...

I think Andrea is hiding in the pallets smile.gif
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Originally Posted by zeus33 View Post

He was wearing a helmet.

Not attempting to explain everything... but wearing a helmet doesn't prevent you from being knocked unconscious OR from getting a concussion. A concussion involves your brain moving inside your skull... no helmet currently in use can 100% prevent against that. A helmet will protect your skin from damage in a collision and likely prevent bones from breaking in your skull... but doesn't do much to prevent concussion or loss of consciousness.

Not saying that applies to Morgan in this episode... but just going the extra mile here to explain helmets...

...The more you know... *starburst*

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Not attempting to explain everything... but wearing a helmet doesn't prevent you from being knocked unconscious OR from getting a concussion. A concussion involves your brain moving inside your skull... no helmet currently in use can 100% prevent against that. A helmet will protect your skin from damage in a collision and likely prevent bones from breaking in your skull... but doesn't do much to prevent concussion or loss of consciousness

Considering nearly every use of a stun gun on television turns them into "knockout" guns, a guy who may have have been weakened by hunger and lack of sleep getting shot and falling unconscious is one of the least egregious moments of storytelling I've seen. Dead has had far dumber moments than that in this season alone.

Michonne magically finding a quick and easy way inside the bar to retrieve the photo being one.
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Considering nearly every use of a stun gun on television turns them into "knockout" guns, a guy who may have have been weakened by hunger and lack of sleep getting shot and falling unconscious is one of the least egregious moments of storytelling I've seen. Dead has had far dumber moments than that in this season alone.

Michonne magically finding a quick and easy way inside the bar to retrieve the photo being one.

You mean the back door? Which every stand alone establishment has.
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You mean the back door? Which every stand alone establishment has.

How do you know it was the back door? Did you see her stroll in the back door (which may or may not have been locked or barricaded), walk into the lounge the zombies were congregating in, pick up a photo they were probably standing on and then walk out?

Nope.

Just like last week when Rick got from outside the fence to inside the prison by teleportation. Magic plot-shortcut editing.

If the back door was a viable option, then why go in the front door? They could have just used the skateboards and left the doors open to lure all the zombies out.
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Originally Posted by aaronwt View Post

You mean the back door? Which every stand alone establishment has.

That's why she wanted Carl to stand there by the [evidently locked] front door -- to distract the walkers whilst she slipped in the back and stealthily retrieved the picture.

Anyway, that wasn't the moment of most belief-suspension for me this episode. The deep, up-to-the-hilt stab wound that Rick just shook off took that prize - a pocketknife might have been more believable, but not as startling. At any rate, the wound happened to be in that magical place where TV/film protagonists are always getting shot and stabbed - the invincible shoulder! As someone who recently broke both of them in a car wreck, I can testify they're not that invincible. wink.gif
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Anyway, that wasn't the moment of most belief-suspension for me this episode. The deep, up-to-the-hilt stab wound that Rick just shook off took that prize - a pocketknife might have been more believable, but not as startling. At any rate, the wound happened to be in that magical place where TV/film protagonists are always getting shot and stabbed - the invincible shoulder! As someone who recently broke both of them in a car wreck, I can testify they're not that invincible. wink.gif

TV-rules. Knives always miss major arteries unless they are in the neck! biggrin.gif
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How do you know it was the back door? Did you see her stroll in the back door (which may or may not have been locked or barricaded), walk into the lounge the zombies were congregating in, pick up a photo they were probably standing on and then walk out?

Nope.

Just like last week when Rick got from outside the fence to inside the prison by teleportation. Magic plot-shortcut editing.

If the back door was a viable option, then why go in the front door? They could have just used the skateboards and left the doors open to lure all the zombies out.

 

I'm guessing both of those events were simply edited for pacing and lack of time.    I have no problem with it.   I'd rather have quicker pacing then watch her go back into the bar (which we've already seen) simply to retrieve some items.    Sure, they could have just left that part out and just had Carl hold onto the picture, but then they lose part of the "gaining trust" angle they were going for between Carl and Michonne.   

 

As for the previous week with Rick outside the fence.   Who cares?   They had cars inside the protected part of the prison yard.   Can't we just assume they sent a car out to collect them?    They also didn't show Rick, Michonne and Carl departing for their road trip.   Can't we just assume they have a system down for getting through the single gate?   Is it really that much of a stretch in the grand scheme of things?

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About a decade or so ago a Mexican singer was shot in the arm and died by her fan club president , I recall lots of folks being shock by the death. Sure she was young, and beautiful, but what I continued to hear from people and their disbelief on getting mortally wounded on one of her limbs. I always attest to f TV fantasy ( Cop gets shot in the arm, continues shooting the bad guys, while shot arm swings aloof rolleyes.gif) and this real life case such as the Singers death, we're quite fragile and with major arteries.


Djoel
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About a decade or so ago a Mexican singer was shot in the arm and died by her fan club president , I recall lots of folks being shock by the death. Sure she was young, and beautiful, but what I continued to hear from people and their disbelief on getting mortally wounded on one of her limbs. I always attest to f TV fantasy ( Cop gets shot in the arm, continues shooting the bad guys, while shot arm swings aloof rolleyes.gif) and this real life case such as the Singers death, we're quite fragile and with major arteries.


Djoel

What always get me is when someone gets stabbed with something and they just pull it out. Sometime in the last year or so I read a news artilcle about someone doing that in real life because they saw it on TV. The person they were trying to help ended up bleeding out because they did not leave the item in the person. Which had been preventing major blood loss.

It's amazing what people think is true only because they see it in on TV or in a movie and must think it mirrors reality.

EDIT: what about the idiot that layed down on the highway, mimicking what happened in a Disney movie where the cars came by and went right over the person without getting hurt. Of course in real life the results were different. After that happened Disney removed it from the film so another idiot wouldn't try to copy it.
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EDIT: what about the idiot that layed down on the highway, mimicking what happened in a Disney movie where the cars came by and went right over the person without getting hurt. Of course in real life the results were different. After that happened Disney removed it from the film so another idiot wouldn't try to copy it.

Didn't that win a Darwin Award? tongue.gif
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Originally Posted by aaronwt View Post

What always get me is when someone gets stabbed with something and they just pull it out. Sometime in the last year or so I read a news artilcle about someone doing that in real life because they saw it on TV. The person they were trying to help ended up bleeding out because they did not leave the item in the person. Which had been preventing major blood loss..

Didn't the Discovery Channel animal dude, Steve something who was stung by a stingray did the same thing? I believe there were reports saying he pulled out what ever penetrated him.

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EDIT: what about the idiot that layed down on the highway, mimicking what happened in a Disney movie where the cars came by and went right over the person without getting hurt. Of course in real life the results were different. After that happened Disney removed it from the film so another idiot wouldn't try to copy it.

Rudie? I never saw the flick, but I remember the reports about it..

Djoel
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What always get me is when someone gets stabbed with something and they just pull it out.

In our world, waiting for trained medical attention so they control the blood loss during removal is preferred. In the Dead world I can't really fault Rick for taking care of business. Fighting through zombie hordes with an annoying knife handle sticking out and driving all the way back to the prison just so Hershel can slap some gauze on it probably wouldn't be much better.

Plus, of course, arteries are knife proof on TV and Rick clearly knows that. wink.gif
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Originally Posted by UGAd13 View Post

‘Filler’ – maybe, not every episode can be zombie killing and Woodbury pillaging… but ‘meh’ on the character development? No way. Rick telling Morgan he had to come back… he was basically telling himself that. Michonne actually getting some speaking roles and bonding with Carl. Carl telling Rick she’s ‘one of us’ at the end of the episode. Geez, how much more do you need?

Yea, the "filler" description for this week's Walking Dead nearly made me levitate. There should be more to the show than the semi-funny bloodbath of zombie killing. I thought this week's show was one of the series' all time best. The scene between Morgan and Rick was very effective. It moved me. Morgan having finally killed his zombie wife but doing it too late to save his son from the same fate at the cost of his own sanity was ineffably sad. Now Morgan is obsessed with what even he still knows is the impossible task of "clearing" zombies until there are no more of them. In this connection, English actors all seem to be able to nail a southern accent. Both Andrew Lincoln and Lennie James do it brilliantly, as they proved in that scene.

Carl's cool decision to shoot Morgan when Morgan was about to kill Rick was also well done. It reminded us that Carl is a 13 year old boy who has been robbed of much of his childhood and has been placed in a world filled with terror, danger, and death. The immunity Carl has developed to all of that is chilling. He is like an African child soldier. Brrr!

This week's show was great television.
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EDIT: what about the idiot that layed down on the highway, mimicking what happened in a Disney movie where the cars came by and went right over the person without getting hurt. Of course in real life the results were different. After that happened Disney removed it from the film so another idiot wouldn't try to copy it.

This was done in the movie The Program with Halle Berry, Omar Epps, James Caan.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Program#Controversy
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