"The Walking Dead" on AMC HD - Page 128

Originally Posted by HDMe2 


Not attempting to explain everything... but wearing a helmet doesn't prevent you from being knocked unconscious OR from getting a concussion. A concussion involves your brain moving inside your skull... no helmet currently in use can 100% prevent against that. A helmet will protect your skin from damage in a collision and likely prevent bones from breaking in your skull... but doesn't do much to prevent concussion or loss of consciousness.

Not saying that applies to Morgan in this episode... but just going the extra mile here to explain helmets...

...The more you know... *starburst*

Originally Posted by gwsat 

Carl's cool decision to shoot Morgan when Morgan was about to kill Rick was also well done. It reminded us that Carl is a 13 year old boy who has been robbed of much of his childhood and has been placed in a world filled with terror, danger, and death. The immunity Carl has developed to all of that is chilling. He is like an African child soldier. Brrr!

This week's show was great television.

Originally Posted by Djoel 

Didn't the Discovery Channel animal dude, Steve something who was stung by a stingray did the same thing? I believe there were reports saying he pulled out what ever penetrated him.

Originally Posted by Djoel 

Well said, before and after the snip:

Did anyone notice Carl's smirk right after shooting Morgan? He was very proud of him self, a little eerie


Djoel

Originally Posted by Archaea 

Does anyone wonder what it might be doing to the actor behind Carl in real life. This is good adult tv but I personally wouldn't want my 13 year old kid acting in it.

Originally Posted by Archaea 

Does anyone wonder what it might be doing to the actor behind Carl in real life. This is good adult tv but I personally wouldn't want my 13 year old kid acting in it.

Originally Posted by gwsat 

Yea, the "filler" description for this week's Walking Dead nearly made me levitate. There should be more to the show than the semi-funny bloodbath of zombie killing. I thought this week's show was one of the series' all time best. The scene between Morgan and Rick was very effective. It moved me. Morgan having finally killed his zombie wife but doing it too late to save his son from the same fate at the cost of his own sanity was ineffably sad. Now Morgan is obsessed with what even he still knows is the impossible task of "clearing" zombies until there are no more of them. In this connection, English actors all seem to be able to nail a southern accent. Both Andrew Lincoln and Lennie James do it brilliantly, as they proved in that scene.

Carl's cool decision to shoot Morgan when Morgan was about to kill Rick was also well done. It reminded us that Carl is a 13 year old boy who has been robbed of much of his childhood and has been placed in a world filled with terror, danger, and death. The immunity Carl has developed to all of that is chilling. He is like an African child soldier. Brrr!

This week's show was great television.

Originally Posted by zeus33 

Very valid points, however......, if a helmet won't protect you from being knocked out when you fall from standing up (less than a 6 ft drop for your head with no real velocity), it would never pass certification, therefore never be on the market.

Where is that beating a dead horse emoticon?

Originally Posted by Yrd 

I agree about the show. Talking dead had some other points I was thinking as well. Like "clear" having multiple meanings. Not just the obvious clearing zombies.

I knew Andrew Lincoln was british, but I'd never heard him speak outside of the show until that little snip on Talking Dead. As soon as I heard him speak I thought he sounded weird. I think he should employ that southern accent from the show full time.
I don't know anything about being shot point-blank or being shot with body armor and a helmet, but I know boxers taking body shots eventually get "knocked out." Maybe a man taking an unexpected shot to his mid section can have similar effects.

Originally Posted by mldardy 

This was done in the movie The Program with Halle Berry, Omar Epps, James Caan.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Program#Controversy

Originally Posted by lobosrul 

I've never heard of a boxer being knocked unconscious from body shots, knocked down yes, but not out.

What getting shot while wearing body armor actually looks likes:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dq93T8ZhI2U

What an idiot.

Originally Posted by aaronwt 

Wasn't there some idiot actor in the 80's that pointed a gun at his head with blanks and killed himself form the wadding coming out and hitting his head? Which is why you never even point and shoot a weapon with blanks at a person. And they use different camera angles to make it look like on TV or in a movie that they are shooting directly at the person. Although nowadays I guess they can add everything in digitally if they want and not even use blanks.

I remember watching the show he was in but can't remember it.

Originally Posted by aaronwt 

Wasn't there some idiot actor in the 80's that pointed a gun at his head with blanks and killed himself form the wadding coming out and hitting his head? Which is why you never even point and shoot a weapon with blanks at a person. And they use different camera angles to make it look like on TV or in a movie that they are shooting directly at the person. Although nowadays I guess they can add everything in digitally if they want and not even use blanks.

I remember watching the show he was in but can't remember it.

Originally Posted by lobosrul 

I remember waaaaaay back when (80's or early 90's?) my parents talking about that. Not sure if its an urban legend or not. However I could see the concussion (rapidly expanding gas) effect from being very close to the barrel could be harmful, but there is absolutely no way cotton or plastic wadding could be deadly.

However, a bizarre freak accident involving blanks killed Brandon Lee: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brandon_Lee#Death

Originally Posted by mylan 

The actors name was Jon Erik Hexum. He died on the set of another show but I remember him from an earlier show called Voyagers.

Originally Posted by NetworkTV 

It was on the set of "Cover Up".

He got a part on that show a year after "Voyagers!" was cancelled after one season when it got pummeled in the ratings by "60 Minutes". He died during the filming of the 7th episode of "Cover Up". The show continued for a while after, but issues behind the scenes ended up leading to CBS cancelling it.

Originally Posted by zeus33 

Very valid points, however......, if a helmet won't protect you from being knocked out when you fall from standing up (less than a 6 ft drop for your head with no real velocity), it would never pass certification, therefore never be on the market.

Where is that beating a dead horse emoticon?

Originally Posted by mgkdragn 

Sunday was just a great episode .. likely one of my favorites of the whole series

Originally Posted by mylan 

Yep, thats it. I loved Voyagers, as i recall they jumped to a different time every week correcting wrongs and then jumping to the next crisis, really a show before its time.

Originally Posted by HDMe2 

Hate to beat the dead horse... but it doesn't take much force at all to give a person a concussion. Again, a concussion is a result of your brain moving inside of your skull... Driving really fast and stopping suddenly without actually colliding with anything can give you a concussion from the whiplash.

There isn't a helmet known to man at this point that can prevent concussion. You can prevent all sorts of other damage with a helmet... but not concussion.

I still don't think that fully explains the oddity of Morgan being unconscious from the fall he took... but I had to whip that horse one last time.

Originally Posted by NetworkTV 


Yes.

It came before a lot of people had more than one TV or a VCR. The result was, it got killed by 60 Minutes, which was the highest rated show for the entire week at the time.

The worst part is, they hard hinted that Jeff (the kid) being brought into the whole thing wasn't an accident and had some greater purpose (revealed in the episode where Phineas is put on trial). Further, there were hints that the reason things got out of whack in time was due to the evil time agents like the one they caught that turned out to be Jack the Ripper. I suspect that, had the show continued, Jeff would go on to track down and catch those agents that were changing events in time for their own purposes.

The show was great in that they showed hidtory both as it was and as it could have been had minor changes been made. It also made the point that they weren't allowed to change anything that was supposed to happen, even if it were a bad event (such as the sinking of the Titanic). That principle sort of reminded me of "The Time Tunnel", where Tony couldn't stop the events of Pearl Harbor, no matter how hard he tried.

It's kind of like the desperation of this show where everyone is destined to turn into a zombie unless you destroy their brain to prevent them from re-animating.

Originally Posted by darthrsg 

I'm only kidding, aeromorris.

Originally Posted by UGAd13 

Watched a few mins of TWD in B&W tonight. Gives it a different, more creepy (in a good way) feel to it.

Pretty cool stuff.

Originally Posted by HDMe2 

Hate to beat the dead horse... but it doesn't take much force at all to give a person a concussion. Again, a concussion is a result of your brain moving inside of your skull... Driving really fast and stopping suddenly without actually colliding with anything can give you a concussion from the whiplash.

Originally Posted by archiguy 

That's a novel idea to try to capitalize a bit more on the popularity of the series and connect it to its graphic novel origins. I may have to catch one of those...

Originally Posted by NetworkTV 

As someone who rides a motorcycle, I can assure you a helmet will highly likely protect you from a concussion if you fall down and hit your head on the ground with one on. While not guaranteed, it's so unlikely you'd be injured that way, it's trivial.

Now, if that fall is preceeded by a traffic accident or a football player tackling you, then you might end up with one.

Helmets are tested by dropping them from adult head height with a weight in them. That's the baseline.

If it fails that, it won't protect you from anything worse and can't be certified.