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post #4471 of 6194
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Originally Posted by Ray Lucca View Post

He puts the wine back and the whole set-up comes down on him??? Dropping Zombies was pretty good. Was it as good as the Zombies coming out of the Barn??? No. I thought it was OK, at best, until I watched Talking Dead...

As I saw it the bottle being put back on the shelf and it collapsing was caused by the leak in the roof. The leak weakened the shelf as did the water collecting on the roof to the point everything up there started falling through. Great scene!
post #4472 of 6194
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Originally Posted by ridgefamus View Post

As I saw it the bottle being put back on the shelf and it collapsing was caused by the leak in the roof. The leak weakened the shelf as did the water collecting on the roof to the point everything up there started falling through. Great scene!

My impression was that the zombies were all congregated on one side of the roof and when they heard the crashing of the shelves they started walking across the weakened roof causing them to fall through.
post #4473 of 6194
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My impression was that the zombies were all congregated on one side of the roof and when they heard the crashing of the shelves they started walking across the weakened roof causing them to fall through.

How did they get up there in the first place?
post #4474 of 6194
I assumed some were helicopter passengers and others were people who'd tried to escape zombies who were surrounding the store, but someone was bitten (before climbing up) and the infection spread to everyone else.
post #4475 of 6194
There was one eye rolling moment. Rick and Carl talking about the pig, rick saying the pig could be fine, or sick, he really didn't know much about pigs.Too bad they didn't have a vet who had been around farm animals all his life to ask about it, huh? smile.gif
post #4476 of 6194
I thought it was a good episode, not Season 3 opener worthy but good. Lots of little plot holes. The zombies on te roof. To many to be up there and from that helicopter, if the copter crashed on the roof, anyone staying up there would of probably gotten off. If a zombie was up there with them, they would of gotten down off the roof. The zombies also would of fallen off the roof to get to people, sounds, etc. They would of plummeted, they would not of known not to, they are zombies. They play the music to lure everyone out but the ones on the roof stay, no they would not of.

Why are they not clearing the zombies from the fence. They complain that it is getting to bad yet there are two or three people going really slow killing them. Get everyone out there with spears kill them all, clean them away from the fence. Build a moat around the fence to trap them, build spikes like that guy did in town that they can't even get to the fence. Nope, we will go real slow, do a couple at a time and complain how they are starting to get to many of them.

The girl in the woods was such an obvious plot line it was hard to watch as it happened exactly like you knew it would of.

Carl wanting to be all tough and teach kids that the zombies are killers, etc. then when he sees Carol teaching combat skills he runs away? Just odd.

I find it hard to believe that with one free leg and two arms, the guy under the wooden cabinet couldn't get himself free. Smashing the wood with his good leg/foot, arms, pushing up with three good limbs, it wasn't that big and heavy.

Is it really smart of Rick to keep twp ear plugs in with music on with zombies around him. Seems a little reckless.

On a side note, I bet the LARPers are having it easy. Besides the crazy real people to deal with, dressing up in all chain mail or even plate (harder to move) would make you invulnerable to the zombies, and all the weapons they have, swords, maces, axes, etc. they would have it pretty easy.
post #4477 of 6194
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Originally Posted by WilliamR View Post

I thought it was a good episode, not Season 3 opener worthy but good. Lots of little plot holes. The zombies on te roof. To many to be up there and from that helicopter, if the copter crashed on the roof, anyone staying up there would of probably gotten off. If a zombie was up there with them, they would of gotten down off the roof. The zombies also would of fallen off the roof to get to people, sounds, etc. They would of plummeted, they would not of known not to, they are zombies. They play the music to lure everyone out but the ones on the roof stay, no they would not of.

Why are they not clearing the zombies from the fence. They complain that it is getting to bad yet there are two or three people going really slow killing them. Get everyone out there with spears kill them all, clean them away from the fence. Build a moat around the fence to trap them, build spikes like that guy did in town that they can't even get to the fence. Nope, we will go real slow, do a couple at a time and complain how they are starting to get to many of them.

The girl in the woods was such an obvious plot line it was hard to watch as it happened exactly like you knew it would of.

Carl wanting to be all tough and teach kids that the zombies are killers, etc. then when he sees Carol teaching combat skills he runs away? Just odd.

I find it hard to believe that with one free leg and two arms, the guy under the wooden cabinet couldn't get himself free. Smashing the wood with his good leg/foot, arms, pushing up with three good limbs, it wasn't that big and heavy.

Is it really smart of Rick to keep twp ear plugs in with music on with zombies around him. Seems a little reckless.

On a side note, I bet the LARPers are having it easy. Besides the crazy real people to deal with, dressing up in all chain mail or even plate (harder to move) would make you invulnerable to the zombies, and all the weapons they have, swords, maces, axes, etc. they would have it pretty easy.

I think the bit with Carl getting pissed and leaving story time was because he actually wanted it to be story time.
post #4478 of 6194
Didn't it take two people to lift the shelves so he could get free?

I see that the Season 4 Premiere had a record number of viewers.
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Originally Posted by kingpcgeek View Post

‘The Walking Dead’ Draws Record 16.1 Million Viewers
It's the fall's No. 1 series telecast in 18-49
Rick Kissell, Variety.com


AMC’s “The Walking Dead,” basic cable’s biggest series of all time, opened its fourth season Sunday with more record numbers.

Despite facing higher-rated sports competition this year from both football and postseason baseball, “Walking Dead” returned Sunday with a monster average audience of 16.1 million viewers — more than 5 million viewers better than last year’s 10.87 million and more than double where it kicked off its second season in October 2011 (7.26 million).

It also did a huge 8.2 rating in adults 18-49, making it easily the top-rated entertainment series telecast of the season, ahead of CBS’ “The Big Bang Theory” (5.5 for its season premiere and a 6.1 for a special second episode right after it).

In adults 25-54, its 7.3 rating ties with the regular-timeslot episode of “NCIS” as the season’s best for an entertainment series. (The second “Big Bang” did an 8.0).

The previous series high for “Dead” — and the all-time best for a cable series — was its third-season finale last spring, which drew 12.42 million and a 6.4 rating in adults 18-49.

By comparison, AMC’s “Breaking Bad” wrapped its run last month with an average audience of 10.28 million and a 5.3 rating in adults 18-49 — easily the best scores for this series.

AMC also scored with post-show “The Talking Dead,” which drew a series-record 5.1 million viewers and a 2.6 rating in adults 18-49.

http://variety.com/2013/tv/news/walking-dead-draws-a-whopping-16-1-million-in-return-1200724179/
post #4479 of 6194
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Did the kid get the sickness from the deer meat? They made a point of him saying thank you for the deer meat at the beginning of the episode and with animals dying off it makes me wonder.

Would they have fed any part of the deer to the pig?

For those of us that used to watch 'Deadwood', we know pigs will eat darn near *anything*. smile.gif
post #4480 of 6194
I see Hershel has a prosthetic leg now huh? Must be too much of a PITA to keep him in the frame on crutches always being shot from the front, hiding the raised up lower portion of his leg all the time.
post #4481 of 6194
I bet pigs don't mind eating some zombies, and maybe they are feeding them those fence ones, or where else they put them?
post #4482 of 6194
There were several veiled references to the water supply. I'll wager that's the source of the infectious outbreak.
post #4483 of 6194
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Originally Posted by rdgrimes View Post

There were several veiled references to the water supply. I'll wager that's the source of the infectious outbreak.
It looked like they were catching rain water in 55 gallon drums and using hand pumps.
post #4484 of 6194
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Originally Posted by aaronwt View Post

Didn't it take two people to lift the shelves so he could get free?

I see that the Season 4 Premiere had a record number of viewers.

Yes, to lift the entire shelving up and off of him. But to use your leverage from underneath to gain a few inches would of been easy, heck he didn't even try. Plus smashing it with your free foot to break the shelves/backing. Anything, but he lusy laid there screaming for help (oh he did tug on his foot a few times though).
post #4485 of 6194
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Originally Posted by kittycarole View Post

AMC’S The Walking Dead RETURNS WITH HIGHEST-RATED EPISODE IN SERIES HISTORY, 16.1 MILLION VIEWERS AND 10.4 MILLION ADULTS 18-49

will be interesting to see how big the drop-off will be next week. hopefully,it will retain a good portion of that number.

Those are monster numbers and it is a cable show. So glad, hopefully we get an early renewal as this shows needs to go on for a long time. Fingers crossed the spin off doesn't ruin things (for both shows).
post #4486 of 6194
Imagine if AMC would air those episodes in other countries where AMC is not even on the premium package... This show is huge in Australia
post #4487 of 6194
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Originally Posted by DrLar View Post

Imagine if AMC would air those episodes in other countries where AMC is not even on the premium package... This show is huge in Australia
This show is huge all over the world,

‘Walking Dead’ Airing Overseas 1 Day After U.S. Premiere in Over 125 Countries
post #4488 of 6194
I realize this is a zombie show, but did anyone else feel like there was more gratuitous gore than usual -- even for this series? I like the series - but frankly, I'm happy with a cutaway shot of a violent action. I don't need to see the actual penetration of the blunt object into the eye socket for instance. I watch the show for the engaging story and not for the gore effects. Tons of fence pokes through the face, skin pulling off skull and vertebrae, eyes destroyed and bleeding, feet hanging on soley by rotting tendons, corpse explosions etc. I don't need to see the nonstop campy B' rated gore flick effects to feel satisfied. I personally think it might have gone a bit over the top in this episode.

How would I do it?
Who remembers Raiders of the Lost Ark and the big guy who gets his head chopped off by the airplane engine propellor. That didn't show a thing and yet you fully knew what transpired and felt no loss for having not seen the actual chopping action. Find a middle ground. Less money and time spent on special effects budget and no real loss to story or impact.


Second small, but growing gripe - I acknowledge some level of suspension of disbelief is required for the show - but actually they've been fairly good over the course of the series to keep it reasonably realistic - that if some virus outbreak occurred this is what really might occur. At some point, as time passes, the premise loses any parallel to a realistic situation. Those zombies had been on the roof for what now three years? No food, no water? Just walking around for three years? A zombie would still starve or die of dehydration. The one is ripped in half and still moving around on the roof? Zombies are still flesh and blood - regardless of a lack of pain threshold. Zombies need to be dying much faster. Heck how did any of them survive the first winter? At this point there should actually be very few zombies, and probably the ones that remain be better adapted than slow moving cumbersome creatures - or there would not be any left by this point.. The early zombie apocolypse happened by shear numbers overwhelming humanity. At this point how can a bunch of half decayed, nearly dead zombies pose much threat at all --- if we are supposed to be assuming any kind of realism to the show. The virus manifestation in the show will spice it up some, but it'll be interesting to see where they take the show because before long it's just not going to make any sense at all if they continue with more of the same.
post #4489 of 6194
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Originally Posted by Archaea View Post

I realize this is a zombie show, but did anyone else feel like there was more gratuitous gore than usual -- even for this series? I like the series - but frankly, I'm happy with a cutaway shot of a violent action. I don't need to see the actual penetration of the blunt object into the eye socket for instance. I watch the show for the engaging story and not for the gore effects. Tons of fence pokes through the face, skin pulling off skull and vertebrae, eyes destroyed and bleeding, feet hanging on soley by rotting tendons, corpse explosions etc. I don't need to see the nonstop campy B' rated gore flick effects to feel satisfied. I personally think it might have gone a bit over the top in this episode.
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I don't mind it too much because of the cheaper TV effects so alot of it doesn't look too realistic. With a movie budget and more realistic looking effects it would get to me.


Plus the Show is only close to the two year mark isn't it? No more than two years time has passed in the show?
post #4490 of 6194
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Originally Posted by Archaea View Post

I realize this is a zombie show, but did anyone else feel like there was more gratuitous gore than usual -- even for this series? I like the series - but frankly, I'm happy with a cutaway shot of a violent action. I don't need to see the actual penetration of the blunt object into the eye socket for instance. I watch the show for the engaging story and not for the gore effects. Tons of fence pokes through the face, skin pulling off skull and vertebrae, eyes destroyed and bleeding, feet hanging on soley by rotting tendons, corpse explosions etc. I don't need to see the nonstop campy B' rated gore flick effects to feel satisfied. I personally think it might have gone a bit over the top in this episode.

How would I do it?
Who remembers Raiders of the Lost Ark and the big guy who gets his head chopped off by the airplane engine propellor. That didn't show a thing and yet you fully knew what transpired and felt no loss for having not seen the actual chopping action. Find a middle ground. Less money and time spent on special effects budget and no real loss to story or impact.


Second small, but growing gripe - I acknowledge some level of suspension of disbelief is required for the show - but actually they've been fairly good over the course of the series to keep it reasonably realistic - that if some virus outbreak occurred this is what really might occur. At some point, as time passes, the premise loses any parallel to a realistic situation. Those zombies had been on the roof for what now three years? No food, no water? Just walking around for three years? A zombie would still starve or die of dehydration. The one is ripped in half and still moving around on the roof? Zombies are still flesh and blood - regardless of a lack of pain threshold. Zombies need to be dying much faster. Heck how did any of them survive the first winter? At this point there should actually be very few zombies, and probably the ones that remain be better adapted than slow moving cumbersome creatures - or there would not be any left by this point.. The early zombie apocolypse happened by shear numbers overwhelming humanity. At this point how can a bunch of half decayed, nearly dead zombies pose much threat at all --- if we are supposed to be assuming any kind of realism to the show. The virus manifestation in the show will spice it up some, but it'll be interesting to see where they take the show because before long it's just not going to make any sense at all if they continue with more of the same.

Nope .. bring on the gore .. biggrin.gif

Has the word "Zombie" ever been used in the show .. ?? wink.gif
post #4491 of 6194
yes, i'm good with the gore. it really doesn't seem a gratuitous amount.

and no, i don't recall zombie as word ever uttered on the show.
post #4492 of 6194
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Originally Posted by kittycarole View Post

yes, i'm good with the gore. it really doesn't seem a gratuitous amount.

and no, i don't recall zombie as word ever uttered on the show.

I don't believe it's ever been used on the show, period .. George Romero movies never existed in the Walking Dead universe .. Kirkman himself has said this is a fictional World on WD .. in the TV series nobody in the World had ever heard of the concept of zombies, it just didn't exist.

So why should anyone believe the pre-WD cliché propagated by Romero should have any bearing at all .. ??
post #4493 of 6194
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Originally Posted by mgkdragn View Post

I don't believe it's ever been used on the show, period .. George Romero movies never existed in the Walking Dead universe .. Kirkman himself has said this is a fictional World on WD .. in the TV series nobody in the World had ever heard of the concept of zombies, it just didn't exist.

So why should anyone believe the pre-WD cliché propagated by Romero should have any bearing at all .. ??

Now I've read the exact opposite, that it DOES take place in a Romero style universe. Where the hell it was I don't know.
post #4494 of 6194
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Originally Posted by darthrsg View Post

Now I've read the exact opposite, that it DOES take place in a Romero style universe. Where the hell it was I don't know.

Kirkman discussed it on the second episode of Talking Dead .. and also revealed that animals cannot become Walkers ..
post #4495 of 6194
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Originally Posted by mgkdragn View Post

Kirkman discussed it on the second episode of Talking Dead .. and also revealed that animals cannot become Walkers ..

I rely on this thread for info from Talking Dead because I tried watching that show and couldn't stand it. If it were more of a talk show I would love it, but the way it is now just isn't for me.
post #4496 of 6194
For you guys with kids, the actor who played Patrick in this latest episode is the voice of Phineas from Phibeas & Ferb.wink.gif
post #4497 of 6194
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Originally Posted by Archaea View Post

Who remembers Raiders of the Lost Ark and the big guy who gets his head chopped off by the airplane engine propellor.
That didn't show a thing and yet you fully knew what transpired and felt no loss for having not seen the actual chopping action.

They did show alot of blood splashing all over the planes fin + cockpit glass.

Since we are talking indy my prerequisite raiders rankings:
1 lost ark - 2 last crusade - 3 crystal skull - 4 temple of doom
post #4498 of 6194
For the comic... Kirkman has said before that he was inspired by the original Night of the Living Dead... and that his comic essentially exists in that universe, in a different place from where the movie took place... but happening in a similar way.

This, of course, means nobody in the Walking Dead world could have seen the movie because they are essentially living the movie! The harder part to believe is that they exist in a world that is mostly similar to modern society and yet they never had any kind of zombie movie... when you factor in that they are living in a USA that has Louisiana, and lots of zombie lore from there pre-dating any movies... so it seems like the word "zombie" should still exist in Walking Dead-land even without Romero and other more modern takes on the genre.
post #4499 of 6194
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Originally Posted by rdgrimes View Post

There were several veiled references to the water supply. I'll wager that's the source of the infectious outbreak.

And now their water supply is gone because the kid who got infected and died left the shower on - they showed it running out. At least the "clean" water that they collected in drums. No potable water = big trouble.

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Originally Posted by mgkdragn View Post

Nope .. bring on the gore .. biggrin.gif

Has the word "Zombie" ever been used in the show .. ?? wink.gif

I thought it was interesting that when Rick used the word "walkers", the doomed forest girl said "Is that what you call them?". Maybe she called 'em zombies. wink.gif
post #4500 of 6194
'Talking Dead' needs to be 1/2 hour, as 'Talking Bad' was until the finale when it made sense to go to an hour. As it is, I don't have time to watch an hour of it, but I might be able to manage 22 minutes of Chris Hardwick yelling if they had interesting guests.
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