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post #4921 of 6194
Gotta go against the flow here - this ep was a boring waste for me, as have been pretty much all the prison-based ones. The endless lectures on the meaning of life after the apocalypse just get old and the characters are just too stupid for all the reasons mentioned above. All that's left is repetitious zombie-killing, most of it happening because they're all stupid.

This used to be a must-watch show for us, now it just lingers on the DVR until we've seen all the other good stuff.
post #4922 of 6194
what changed Carl so much between the seasons that he went from dark brooding adolescent who thought his dad was unfit for leadership, to submissive, loyal puppy dog who follows his dad's every whim?
post #4923 of 6194
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Originally Posted by MeatChicken View Post

Not just the fence .....
I'm not getting why there is apparently no use of 2-way or CB radios by this group ...
Virtually every 18 wheel truck & many other vehicles have installed CB radios, so some of these should be relatively easy to come by, same with Walkie-talkies ...
Depending on terrain, they could have at least a 3 to 12 miles or more range back to the prison and/or vehicle to vehicle on road trips, ( possibly more if they install a building roof antenna), & handhelds could be clipped on at least key personell for instant communication in & around the prision & grounds, & when separating on supply runs .. ....
Handheld 2-ways could either be charged in the lighter socket of vehicles, thru their prison generator, and/or powered by 'AA' cells scavenged during road trips... Mobile units are powered by the vehicles ...
This would seem to be as basic as being sure to round up Flashlites and knives ... but it's hasn't been so ....

Not only that, but if the trucks are still operational they could park them up against the fence to brace it. CB radios, new weapon storage containers and fence braces (now that there's a large enough hole to get the trucks in smile.gif) - win win. I don't see anything like that happening though, as I think the fence incident coupled with the disease and the governors return are all meant to move the group to a new location. Or maybe that's just my own wishful thinking...
post #4924 of 6194
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Not only that, but if the trucks are still operational they could park them up against the fence to brace it.

Even if they are operational, where would they get diesel? I'm guessing that would be the main issue.
post #4925 of 6194
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Not only that, but if the trucks are still operational they could park them up against the fence to brace it.

Now if only there was a place they could have gone that already had reinforced barriers using big trucks and trailers. wink.gif
post #4926 of 6194
As far as their supply of ammo, maybe they are using those guns that the cowboys and/or cops use on tv. They never run out of bullets..biggrin.gif
post #4927 of 6194
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Even if they are operational, where would they get diesel? I'm guessing that would be the main issue.
Even if there was no supply of diesel, the trucks would only need enough fuel left in their tanks to drive to the prison, at least in order to use them for storage and fence barriers.
post #4928 of 6194
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Now if only there was a place they could have gone that already had reinforced barriers using big trucks and trailers. wink.gif
lol - exactly.
post #4929 of 6194
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Originally Posted by Archaea View Post

what changed Carl so much between the seasons that he went from dark brooding adolescent who thought his dad was unfit for leadership, to submissive, loyal puppy dog who follows his dad's every whim?

Carl went from 14 to 15 years old during the break. Like most 14 year olds, he knew everything. At 15 his light began to go on.... wink.gif
post #4930 of 6194
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I'm guessing the season with Woodbury was one of the most popular ones but they should just get rid of him and move onto other things.

I agree. I loved most of the episode, which focused on Herschel's continuing effort to keep his faith and keep the illusion of human civilization alive. I also like Rick's evolving attitude toward Carl in the new reality.

However, I was disappointed when they teased the Gov at the end. I thought, "The writers are falling back on him again? Let's move on!"
post #4931 of 6194
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I agree. I loved most of the episode, which focused on Herschel's continuing effort to keep his faith and keep the illusion of human civilization alive. I also like Rick's evolving attitude toward Carl in the new reality.

However, I was disappointed when they teased the Gov at the end. I thought, "The writers are falling back on him again? Let's move on!"

This was the best episode since "Clear" but we always knew they would come back to the Govenor, hopefully they can finally kill him in a timely manner and move on.
post #4932 of 6194
What changed is dad took away Carl's murder machine.
post #4933 of 6194
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This was the best episode since "Clear" but we always knew they would come back to the Govenor, hopefully they can finally kill him in a timely manner and move on.

Just poke his other eye out and throw him in a room with a Black Mamba. Oh, wait....
post #4934 of 6194
His 2 henchmen still hanging around are like the old Carol. They are 2 battered women. They know he's a complete nut but they are still hanging around him.
post #4935 of 6194
THE WALKING DEAD Spinoff May Be a Prequel Series

by Adam Chitwood
http://collider.com/the-walking-dead-spinoff-prequel/




With ratings that continually rival even the network juggernauts like The Big Bang Theory, it was only a matter of time before AMC announced a spinoff of its zombie series The Walking Dead. That’s just what happened a few months ago, when the network unveiled plans to develop a “companion series” that will follow an entirely new group of characters in the same zombie-infested universe that continues to plague Sad Rick, Maybe-Psychopath Carl, and the rest of the Georgia-based gang. Comics creator and TWD producer Robert Kirkman is executive producing the companion series alongside fellow Walking Dead producers Gale Anne Hurd and Dave Alpert, but beyond a 2015 premiere date details have been scarce.

Now a new report claims to have inside info on the possible premise of the new Walking Dead series, which may actually take place before the events of the current show. .

The folks over at TV Line are hearing that the Walking Dead companion series will be “a prequel of sorts” that would focus on the early days of the zombie epidemic and the effort to contain it. The outlet is quick to note that this is still very early days so producers could further tweak this idea or throw it out altogether before it goes into production, but it’s definitely an interesting angle with which to approach the Walking Dead universe.

Some early critics of the series complained about not seeing any of the turmoil that arose just after the zombie epidemic began, and this idea would give the producers the opportunity to explore the real-world reaction to the zombie infestation. Of course some of the tension is already deflated since viewers know just how dark and desolate things get for the major metropolis areas, but should this new set of characters catch on, we could follow them all the way through and past the major evacuations in subsequent seasons.

Kirkman recently told IGN that this new show won’t be set in Georgia and we already know the story and characters won’t be based on any existing material from his graphic novel series, so this is really a blank slate that could inject a freshness to the world of The Walking Dead. Again nothing is in concrete yet so don’t count on this being the premise for the spinoff series, but personally I think it’s a neat idea.

Edited by MeatChicken - 11/15/13 at 12:38pm
post #4936 of 6194
George Romero Wont Do Walking Dead

http://www.darkhorizons.com/news/29700/george-romero-won-t-do-walking-dead

While he may have essentially created the whole zombie movie genre with "Night of the Living Dead," filmmaker George A. Romero says he has no intention of getting involved with the most popular form of that genre at the moment - AMC's "The Walking Dead".

Talking with The Big Issue, Romero says the popularity of the zombie genre at the moments means he has no real interest in going back to it, even though the 'Walking' producers approached him about working on the show:

"Once they bleed out of pop culture I'll be able to go back and do them again. I don’t want to touch them now. Gosh, they are all over the place. The Walking Dead is the number one television series in the States, World War Z, games, commercials… Ugh! It’s too much!

It feels like I don’t have a horse in the race. They asked me to do a couple of episodes of The Walking Dead but I didn’t want to be a part of it. Basically it’s just a soap opera with a zombie occasionally. I always used the zombie as a character for satire or a political criticism and I find that missing in what’s happening now.

Edited by MeatChicken - 11/15/13 at 12:43pm
post #4937 of 6194
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George Romero Wont Do Walking Dead

http://www.darkhorizons.com/news/29700/george-romero-won-t-do-walking-dead

While he may have essentially created the whole zombie movie genre with "Night of the Living Dead," filmmaker George A. Romero says he has no intention of getting involved with the most popular form of that genre at the moment - AMC's "The Walking Dead".

Talking with The Big Issue, Romero says the popularity of the zombie genre at the moments means he has no real interest in going back to it, even though the 'Walking' producers approached him about working on the show:

"Once they bleed out of pop culture I'll be able to go back and do them again. I don’t want to touch them now. Gosh, they are all over the place. The Walking Dead is the number one television series in the States, World War Z, games, commercials… Ugh! It’s too much!

It feels like I don’t have a horse in the race. They asked me to do a couple of episodes of The Walking Dead but I didn’t want to be a part of it. Basically it’s just a soap opera with a zombie occasionally. I always used the zombie as a character for satire or a political criticism and I find that missing in what’s happening now.

ROMERO FOR THE WIN
post #4938 of 6194
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ROMERO FOR THE WIN
The thing is, if he was going to be invited to do a show or three, couldn't he use that opportunity to explore some of his themes? It almost seems like sour grapes.
post #4939 of 6194
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The thing is, if he was going to be invited to do a show or three, couldn't he use that opportunity to explore some of his themes? It almost seems like sour grapes.

I stand by my statement. He's dead right. The genre is all watered down and nearly meaningless at least for hardcore Z fans. Much like comic to film in general. Romero holds an interesting mirror up to people with his version of zombies and it would make fro very crappy episodes of TWD. I use WWZ as an example as it was built from the first scene to be a zombie movie for the masses, I liked it just fine, but when held up against Return of the Living Dead or Night of the Living Dead it's easily a lesser product.

TWD does good and even great with some stuff but all it has had to say has been said and everybody is just waiting on the next person to die.
post #4940 of 6194
I didn't like WWZ, I'm not a fan of zombies that are super human. They're supposed to be dead so the danger comes from the overwhelming numbers not from speed or power. I'd say that WWZ and even the Dawn of the Dead remake were just taking advantage of the genre. I don't know that I'd agree that TWD is doing that, but they definitely don't try to make overt political points like Romero did. But I think by him turning down that offer, he gave up an opportunity to turn on a new generation to his portrayal of the genre. Just a missed opportunity, IMO.
post #4941 of 6194
WWZ was pretty lame. I was disappointed...

I Am Legend had 'stronger' zombies, but I was very entertained with that movie --- and I'm not even a Will Smith fan typically.
post #4942 of 6194
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Originally Posted by c.kingsley View Post

I didn't like WWZ, I'm not a fan of zombies that are super human. They're supposed to be dead so the danger comes from the overwhelming numbers not from speed or power. I'd say that WWZ and even the Dawn of the Dead remake were just taking advantage of the genre. I don't know that I'd agree that TWD is doing that, but they definitely don't try to make overt political points like Romero did. But I think by him turning down that offer, he gave up an opportunity to turn on a new generation to his portrayal of the genre. Just a missed opportunity, IMO.

Some might argue the "new" generation are actually the zombies.

TWD is TOTALLY cashing in on the trend and being extremely safe which is helpful as I like to not think too much sometimes. It wouldn't be the first money grab. It keeps me on the fence more than other show so I guess it's working.
post #4943 of 6194
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Originally Posted by darthrsg View Post

Some might argue the "new" generation are actually the zombies.

TWD is TOTALLY cashing in on the trend and being extremely safe which is helpful as I like to not think too much sometimes. It wouldn't be the first money grab. It keeps me on the fence more than other show so I guess it's working.
Well the whole premise of Romero's movies was that zombies were an expression of rampant, mindless consumerism , so I'd agree. That is why Dawn of the Dead took place in a shopping mall.
post #4944 of 6194
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Originally Posted by c.kingsley View Post

Well the whole premise of Romero's movies was that zombies were an expression of rampant, mindless consumerism , so I'd agree. That is why Dawn of the Dead took place in a shopping mall.

In THAT movie, yes.
post #4945 of 6194
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I didn't like WWZ, I'm not a fan of zombies that are super human. They're supposed to be dead so the danger comes from the overwhelming numbers not from speed or power.

The definition of "zombie" is the issue here. Originally it was a walking corpse but now it gets attributed to anything that is basically a mindless human who tries to eat brains. Most of the time current interpretations (especially fast versions) just mean someone gets infected by a disease or virus that turns them into an unstoppable psycho 30 seconds later. They are barely "dead" long enough to qualify as undead or a zombie and most movies treat zombification like this:

"Argghhh my arm got slightly nibbled!"

*pass out for 30 seconds*

"Brrrraaaaiiiins"


Having a separate classification for humans that just get infected by a virus that turns them into a cannibalistic psycho, might be a better way to go these days. Irony being that TWD adheres to zombie fiction more than most contemporaries yet it adamantly refuses to use the term.

The Last of Us on PS3 had one of the better uses of modern-day "zombies" with an almost plausible origin story and smartly did not call them zombies at all.
Edited by VisionOn - 11/16/13 at 5:05am
post #4946 of 6194
I don't think that in the original use of the word zombies were even dead. Hasn't anyone ever seen The Serpent and the Rainbow? Based on a true story.
post #4947 of 6194
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I don't think that in the original use of the word zombies were even dead. Hasn't anyone ever seen The Serpent and the Rainbow? Based on a true story.

In the Haitian ritual/folklore the victim was not technically dead but to everyone who saw them crawl from a grave or wake up after being pronounced they were in effect a walking corpse because they had been buried and came back, usually barely sentient.

That was the same with the White Zombie movie too if I remember correctly.
post #4948 of 6194
in 28 seconds/days/weeks later it was called the "Rage" virus
post #4949 of 6194
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in 28 seconds/days/weeks later it was called the "Rage" virus

Didn't those movies correctly avoid saying zombie?

And then most of the reviews and the marketing push undid that by calling them zombies?
post #4950 of 6194
Absolute snoozefest this episode...looks like next week will be no prison again as well...
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