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post #4981 of 6194
Well, it's not really from the comics, but the novel, The Road to Woodbury. I've not read it though. But on the show he took the name Brian from the names that were written on the wall that he saw as he was walking around.
post #4982 of 6194
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Of course they took food with them, I don't know why anyone would think they didn't. Once the truck broke down and they left the truck, any food they had would have been a small amount since it had to fit in the backpacks. And then they dumped the backpacks so at the end of the episode they had no food with them.

Why would they need to specifically show them with a stock of food in the truck? The viewer should know that they brought food with them. There is no need to actually show it.

Obviously they took food and supplies - it was just nowhere near the stockpile that they had in the apartments. Rather than just let Brian leave they should have convinced him to stay, which he probably ultimately would have. It would have made more sense than leaving. Of course, if that happened that's where the story would have ended for those people, so we all know darn well why the writers had them leave. wink.gif

I really wanted the Governor to be even more psychotic and rage fueled than when we last saw him. This whole sympathy thing is puzzling...
post #4983 of 6194
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Originally Posted by Stoney Jackson View Post

Well, it's not really from the comics, but the novel, The Road to Woodbury. I've not read it though. But on the show he took the name Brian from the names that were written on the wall that he saw as he was walking around.

I was confused about that scene where he saw the Brian name spray painted on the barn. I had forgotten that his actual name was "Phillip" so I was wondering why his name was up there. I thought maybe he was going back to his hometown where people were looking for him. It all makes sense now.
post #4984 of 6194
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Was that a Spoiler?

yep
post #4985 of 6194
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Originally Posted by Archaea View Post

They wanted to leave the apartment because their dad turned and was just killed there and they are innocent and can't even kill a single walker on their own. They don't want to be three woman living on their own with no man(protector), and no community, and no hope. They don't know how bad it is outside yet - they didn't even know all dead people turned for instance, and they are tired of spagettios after 1.5 years. Heck the Govenor wouldn't even eat his spagettios and preferred cat food. I probably would as well.

It is dumb they didn't try to drive away with supplies.

I don't think it is inconsistent for the gov to have killed the apartment walker upstairs that was making noise that the old man talked dispairingly about. He was basically making it more comfortable for the girl and her family downstairs. The family was stroking his ego, giving him a purpose, and giving him a will to live again. If nothing else the Governor likes to feel needed or important. As for the walkers in the nursing home and leaving them be, he was just trying to be as quiet as he could be.

I don't care to see a softer side of the govenor and I won't allow myself to give his character any grace. He did horrendous things in season 3, including decapitating the soldier and storing his head right after telling the same soldier he would help him, murdering his long time best friend Milton, and planning sadistic torture for his lovers friend. Ultimately torturing his lover with his best friend as a walker. Not to mentioin shooting off his whole town when they displeased him. He is as two faced and evil as they come. There is no redemption for him just because he has a soft caring spot for his daughter and little girls her age. Hitler loved his dog very much and was plenty kind to his dog - it doesn't redeem him.

Uhm, I don't think so, for multiple reasons.

They immediately said lets leave. They didn't try to convince him to stay with all their supplies, tons of food etc. They say immediatetly lets go, take us with you? Also, their father didn't provide much in the way of a man in the house being cripple and dying. They know what it is like outside because they saw the "monsters" upstairs and how they wouldn't die. They know the dead turn now, the Gov. told them, no matter what, you come back, it was clearly said. So they know how bad it is yet their first choice is to flee all the food and protection? Don't wan tto stay in that apartment because he died? Move to a different one/floor.

He killed the walker to save the people the noise? What noise? It was in a tub, it wasn't the one walking around making all the noise they heard, it couldn't even move. So say even if he did do it for that reason, he doesn't kill the ones in the nursing home because of being quiet, how is it not quiteer to stab them in the head then to let them thrash around, drag themselves, make noise, bang on things trying to get to him? It has always been quieter to stab them so they don't attract others. Come on now, how is it quieter to keep a moaning, thrashing, clawing zombie desperately trying to get to you then to stab it in the head?

They did drive away with the supplies. They drove away in the truck they said was loaded with supplies and I believe they even showed some of the boxes they talked about in the back.
post #4986 of 6194
I understand why the family wanted to leave. They only have a vague understanding of how bad it is out there, they're about to find for real though.
Of all the nonsensical happenings in this season, this episode didn't bother me at all. Like Daryl's 48hr trip to go 50 miles from last weeks episode.
Or the stupid fence drama that should of never been an issue.
Or the not locking....oh forget it.mad.gif
post #4987 of 6194
What's the likelihood that now they'll completely forget that there's a truck within walking distance that's full of food that their new group would be delighted to have?

High, I suspect. frown.gif
post #4988 of 6194
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I understand why the family wanted to leave. They only have a vague understanding of how bad it is out there, they're about to find for real though.
Of all the nonsensical happenings in this season, this episode didn't bother me at all. Like Daryl's 48hr trip to go 50 miles from last weeks episode.
Or the stupid fence drama that should of never been an issue.
Or the not locking....oh forget it.mad.gif

Yeah you're right, they have no idea how bad they'll have it until they run into the stupid crew at the prison, then they'll realize all hope is lost... eek.gif
post #4989 of 6194
I was cracking up when the Dad asked if Brian had a cigarette. The daughters were all over him for that. "Dad, you're on oxygen..." Yeah that cigarette is gonna be a lot different than all those candles burning... smile.gif
post #4990 of 6194
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I was cracking up when the Dad asked if Brian had a cigarette. The daughters were all over him for that. "Dad, you're on oxygen..." Yeah that cigarette is gonna be a lot different than all those candles burning... smile.gif

I think they were talking about the fact the father was actually wearing oxygen. I'm a nurse and some people will actually smoke while wearing oxygen. I took care of a patient who smoked while wearing oxygen, he sustained burns to his chest and a burned nose as a result of smoking while wearing oxygen.
post #4991 of 6194
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I was cracking up when the Dad asked if Brian had a cigarette. The daughters were all over him for that. "Dad, you're on oxygen..." Yeah that cigarette is gonna be a lot different than all those candles burning... smile.gif

At this point just let the old dude burn one.
post #4992 of 6194
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Originally Posted by Nuance View Post

Obviously they took food and supplies - it was just nowhere near the stockpile that they had in the apartments. Rather than just let Brian leave they should have convinced him to stay, which he probably ultimately would have. It would have made more sense than leaving. Of course, if that happened that's where the story would have ended for those people, so we all know darn well why the writers had them leave. wink.gif

I really wanted the Governor to be even more psychotic and rage fueled than when we last saw him. This whole sympathy thing is puzzling...

Catch more flies with honey maybe?
post #4993 of 6194
I thought they were going to have the Governor murder them or maybe feed them to the walkers.

By the time he's scoping out the prison in the previous episode, this family is gone? Whatever humanizing effects of the little girl and the sisters, he seems to have revenge on his mind when he was watching the prison.
post #4994 of 6194
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I think they were talking about the fact the father was actually wearing oxygen. I'm a nurse and some people will actually smoke while wearing oxygen. I took care of a patient who smoked while wearing oxygen, he sustained burns to his chest and a burned nose as a result of smoking while wearing oxygen.
I've seen that while at the casino. Drives me crazy.
post #4995 of 6194
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I thought they were going to have the Governor murder them or maybe feed them to the walkers.

By the time he's scoping out the prison in the previous episode, this family is gone? Whatever humanizing effects of the little girl and the sisters, he seems to have revenge on his mind when he was watching the prison.

Maybe he takes them to the prison and sends them in.
post #4996 of 6194
Tries to RAID the prison again with his new army of three! Ha! I kid.
post #4997 of 6194
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I thought they were going to have the Governor murder them or maybe feed them to the walkers.

By the time he's scoping out the prison in the previous episode, this family is gone? Whatever humanizing effects of the little girl and the sisters, he seems to have revenge on his mind when he was watching the prison.

The "Governor" was on The Talking Dead and when asked about whether or not he had revenge on his mind he basically said he had been so traumatized by the events that led up to murdering his own people that at first he just wanted to die but after bonding with the family he now wants redemption. He said Megan is his redemption and that he believes he will now live to help and protect her (along with Lily and her sister). He even suggested there may be a possibility of trying to join forces with Rick and those at the prison.
post #4998 of 6194
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I think they were talking about the fact the father was actually wearing oxygen. I'm a nurse and some people will actually smoke while wearing oxygen. I took care of a patient who smoked while wearing oxygen, he sustained burns to his chest and a burned nose as a result of smoking while wearing oxygen.

I've seen very sick elderly people on O2 continuing to smoke.

I wasn't very happy with this sideways flashback. I don't really care about the Governor's story since last seen. I don't feel any empathy or sympathy for him and the show can't make it happen by having a little girl cling to him.
post #4999 of 6194
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I was disappointed when they teased the Gov at the end. I thought, "The writers are falling back on him again? Let's move on!"

I have to take back what I wrote last week. I thoroughly enjoyed The Gov's episode. It was probably one of the strongest yet in a strong season.
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A friend of mine at work this morning told me that back story about the Governor's new name "Brian". Apparently that's the govenors real name, and "Phillip" (as he was called at Woodberry) was his brother's name. He basically assumed his brother's identity after he was killed because his brother was a protector of Brian, and was always looked up to by Brian (the Governor). Penny, the governor's walker daughter, was actually Phillip's daughter. So basically by calling himself Brian now - he is in fact perhaps reverting back to who he really is. Take that for what you will --- but apparently that's the backstory from the comics, which I've never read.

Here's the link:
http://walkingdead.wikia.com/wiki/Philip_Blake_%28Novel%29

That may be the origin of the first name he gave, but he saw "Herriot" painted on the side of a building, and I'm pretty sure that was a reference to author James Herriot. I've never read anything of his, but his most popular novel was "All Creatures Great and Small." I'm sure there's some symbolism in referring to his name.
post #5000 of 6194
I totally hated this slow moving dull dull dull episode. This is not what i watch this show for. mad.gif

I know its about character development, could have done it in half the time and had some more action.
post #5001 of 6194
That had to be the best episode of The Talking Dead they ever did. The guest comedian was hilarious, the actor playing the gov. was even funny. Plus he gave a lot of insight into the gov. A LOT. I wish they were all liked that one.
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The "Governor" was on The Talking Dead and when asked about whether or not he had revenge on his mind he basically said he had been so traumatized by the events that led up to murdering his own people that at first he just wanted to die but after bonding with the family he now wants redemption. He said Megan is his redemption and that he believes he will now live to help and protect her (along with Lily and her sister). He even suggested there may be a possibility of trying to join forces with Rick and those at the prison.

So if that's how things go down, the exact events that I hoped wouldn't happen will happen. Bummer. Hopefully most of the audience feels the opposite of I do then, else there will be a lot of underwhelmed viewers.
post #5003 of 6194
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That had to be the best episode of The Talking Dead they ever did. The guest comedian was hilarious, the actor playing the gov. was even funny. Plus he gave a lot of insight into the gov. A LOT. I wish they were all liked that one.


I thought the show with the wrestler guy was one of the best. I think it was the show after Manson was on, so it could have skewed my opinion. But I think he was one of the best guests.


For the most recent show(I wish I could remember these guys names) the comedian thought the Gov was going to the prison to get help. I think he may be right. Martinez's people might be too much to handle and he's coming to Rick for help. Maybe they are holding his adopted family prisoner or something. Comedian's idea was he wanted Rick to take in his family. I think he wants to get his help for some action.

Or the family is dead and he's back in psycho mode.
post #5004 of 6194
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So if that's how things go down, the exact events that I hoped wouldn't happen will happen. Bummer. Hopefully most of the audience feels the opposite of I do then, else there will be a lot of underwhelmed viewers.

Seriously, Carol kills two = banished forever / Gov, Gestapo incarnate = Aw shucks, lets let bygones be bygones ?

I like this show and don't complain about all the logistical stuff, but if this goes down, Wayne Brady is gonna have to choke a bitch.
post #5005 of 6194
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Seriously, Carol kills two = banished forever / Gov, Gestapo incarnate = Aw shucks, lets let bygones be bygones ?

I like this show and don't complain about all the logistical stuff, but if this goes down, Wayne Brady is gonna have to choke a bitch.


Rick made the decision based on his own children. I can understand that, but it's not like they live in a prison or anything and couldn't just lock her in a cell.
post #5006 of 6194
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Originally Posted by Nuance View Post

So if that's how things go down, the exact events that I hoped wouldn't happen will happen. Bummer. Hopefully most of the audience feels the opposite of I do then, else there will be a lot of underwhelmed viewers.

The Governor (on the Talking Dead) doesn't know for sure how future events are going to play out; his comments about the possibility of he and Rick joining forces were prompted by a question by a fan. He basically said that it happens all the time in real life, where enemies will unite for the common good, so he sees it as a possibility on the show.

As far as his comments about not seeking revenge and wanting redemption, he was telling the audience, from his vantage point, what the Governor's mindset is right now. He said the last thing on the Governor's mind is revenge against Rick and crew. His mind and heart are bent on redemption, and Megan is the key to open that door.

I know a lot of you are angry about any thoughts of redemption for the Governor, but IF he is completely humbled and penitent for his past actions, I see no reason why forgiveness and redemption can't take place. That doesn't mean there will be no consequences for his past, for "whatsoever a man sows, that shall he also reap." But that doesn't preclude people from extending forgiveness to him, IF he is truly penitent.
post #5007 of 6194
At this time we would like everyone to kneel and join in singing a hymn.

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post #5008 of 6194
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Originally Posted by djoberg View Post

The Governor (on the Talking Dead) doesn't know for sure how future events are going to play out; his comments about the possibility of he and Rick joining forces were prompted by a question by a fan. He basically said that it happens all the time in real life, where enemies will unite for the common good, so he sees it as a possibility on the show.

As far as his comments about not seeking revenge and wanting redemption, he was telling the audience, from his vantage point, what the Governor's mindset is right now. He said the last thing on the Governor's mind is revenge against Rick and crew. His mind and heart are bent on redemption, and Megan is the key to open that door.

I know a lot of you are angry about any thoughts of redemption for the Governor, but IF he is completely humbled and penitent for his past actions, I see no reason why forgiveness and redemption can't take place. That doesn't mean there will be no consequences for his past, for "whatsoever a man sows, that shall he also reap." But that doesn't preclude people from extending forgiveness to him, IF he is truly penitent.

No way will he be forgiven by the Prison crew. He killed Andrea (that's a bad thing, right?), molested and tortured others and massacred the loved ones of the surviving Woodberrians. I think part of the reason Rick banished Carol is because Tyrese would have gone ballistic once he found out who killed his snuggle bunny.

As I said earlier, I hope the rest of the season is not going to be about whether the Gov. has reformed or not.
post #5009 of 6194
The governor may come in with information that he will trade for being tolerated. Unholy alliances are much different than Carol's situation.
The tension that it will create between him and Michonne could make for interesting TV.

We shall all see soon!
post #5010 of 6194
The Governor's (and his henchmens) interaction with the group:

So he strips maggie naked and tries to scare her with threaten of rape. He beats Glen within an inch of his life, and leaves him to die with a zombie while tied to a chair. He kills Darryl's brother, He kills and tortures Andrea, Michonnes best friend - and the group sees the torture lair, he killed tons of towns people that Tyrese and his sister had made friends with, he flat our lied to Rick and planned to back stab him and Rick knows this. He killed Carol's crush by shooting him in the head, and he tried to raid and kill the entire prison group on multiple occassion, making them live in fear for months. The govenor then turned on his entire woodberry town, killed them, and burnt the rest of woodberry to the ground. NOT TO MENTION all the stuff they do NOT know about, but may suspect!!!

Yeah -- they'll welcome him in with open arms if he expresses pentence. rolleyes.gif

NEVER would they trust him...If the Walking Dead tries to show otherwise -- it'll be absurd.



It's not like he parked in their grass one sunday afternoon, or stole an apple off their fruit tree or something benign that he's asking forgiveness for. He's a murdering, knieving, hypocrite who has shown his true colors to pretty much everyone in the group.
Edited by Archaea - 11/20/13 at 3:39pm
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