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post #31 of 71
Cameron said in a REEL channel interview (on this week's episode of "Movies and Music") that he has a "detailed script outline" of a second chapter of the Avatar story (lets call it "A2"), which is set in the oceans of Pandora. I can see some applicability to shooting 3D video of - and digitizing for graphics manipulation - denizens of Earth's deepest ocean.

Cameron also said he had an "outline" of a third film, set on Pandora's moons, and wanted to make this "back to back" with the second film. He specificly said that the Peter Jackson release schedule for LOTR was "not a bad model", remarking that shooting "back to back" would result in about a year's delay between the release of A2 and A3.

For that matter, I liked the documentary footage of the Titanic. I look forward to seeing whatever is to be found in the Marianas Trench.
post #32 of 71
I'm not sure it's really necessary to go to the Marianas Trench to get footage for a new film
But on the other hand I'm sure it will give inspiration and to push the envelope when it comes to deep diving and most likely technology and science.
How many rich persons do that ?
They buy a new yacht or the 13:th car

BTW, nothing wrong with bying a new boat or a new car.
But give the guy some slack, at least it's a project that very well may procude new knowledge and insight to a very hostile environment for humans and our current technology.
post #33 of 71
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But on the other hand I'm sure it will give inspiration and to push the envelope when it comes to deep diving and most likely technology and science.
How many rich persons do that ?

Well, it used to be rich dudes would do that. Now they give their money to granting institutions (for a tax write off) and let someone else do it.

Yeah, kudos for Cameron for doing this, but the chances of him finding any usable footage for an Avatar film is virtually nil. He might get some images that may inspire him, and he might use some general shots inserted into the film for the "gee whiz" factor, but IMO that's about it.
post #34 of 71
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Yeah, kudos for Cameron for doing this, but the chances of him finding any usable footage for an Avatar film is virtually nil. He might get some images that may inspire him, and he might use some general shots inserted into the film for the "gee whiz" factor, but IMO that's about it.

Surface pictures of the Moon and Mars are nothing to write home about; how barren can you get? However, seeing those surfaces for the first time and subsequent viewings, I'm still fascinated by them. Those pictures are the closest I'll ever come to being there, so it gives me a sense of wonder and adventure. I feel the same way about the Mariana Trench. It's the anticipation, the unknown, the adventure, and the curiosity, of a place where few have ventured that make this mission exciting for me. Also, don't forget the dangers of a mission of this magnitude - take nothing for granted.

I'm still fascinated every time I see Titanic, and we see very little of it or its surroundings.
post #35 of 71
Yeah, I know, the footage will make a great documentary. No one's denying it. I just don't see it adding anything to a slickly made feature film, other than publicity.
post #36 of 71
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Yeah, I know, the footage will make a great documentary. No one's denying it. I just don't see it adding anything to a slickly made feature film, other than publicity.

Yep.
post #37 of 71
I suspect there's a 50-50 chance he may be preparing his obituary. Lots of thing can go wrong 7 miles under the ocean's surface.

Just sayin'....
post #38 of 71
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I suspect there's a 50-50 chance he may be preparing his obituary. Lots of thing can go wrong 7 miles under the ocean's surface.

Just sayin'....

You know what: all explorers take risks. Cameron is among the few people who have seen the HMS Titanic laying on the sea floor with his own eyes. More people have seen the surface of the moon than have seen that wreck. If he actually journeys to the bottom of the Marianas Trench, he'll be the 3rd or 4th human to do so.

If he dies there, he died doing what he wanted to do, and spending the money he pried from our fingers by making some truly outstanding films. Enough said.
post #39 of 71
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If he dies there, he died doing what he wanted to do, and spending the money he pried from our fingers by making some truly outstanding films. Enough said.

To bad if he dies with Avatar as is last film. Thats like Gordon Ramsay getting killed at McDonalds.
post #40 of 71
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I suspect there's a 50-50 chance he may be preparing his obituary. Lots of thing can go wrong 7 miles under the ocean's surface.

Just sayin'....

Many celebs have obituaries already written if there is even a remote chance of them getting croaked or are knocking on the door of geezerdom. In this day of instant news, the outlets want to run it as soon as the person expires, whether it be by old age, drug use, or getting splattered by two million tons of water pressure.

Lindsay Lohan has hers in perpetual standby for some time now.
post #41 of 71
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Many celebs have obituaries already written if there is even a remote chance of them getting croaked...

Like before working on the set of a John Landis film or riding in a car driven by Matthew Broderick.

That was in poor taste, but I don't care.
post #42 of 71
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Originally Posted by Gary McCoy View Post

You know what: all explorers take risks. Cameron is among the few people who have seen the HMS Titanic laying on the sea floor with his own eyes. More people have seen the surface of the moon than have seen that wreck. If he actually journeys to the bottom of the Marianas Trench, he'll be the 3rd or 4th human to do so.

If he dies there, he died doing what he wanted to do, and spending the money he pried from our fingers by making some truly outstanding films. Enough said.

Damn well said, too.
post #43 of 71
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2 men did it 50 years ago. I am sure the technology to build a vessel that will decend to the bottom of the Trench has improved greatly and is much safer then it was 50 years ago.
post #44 of 71
True, Lee Stewart, a concept is pictured in the UK Daily Mail. Nevertheless, such a deep dive has MANY dangers. This proposed effort is great exploration, even if absolutely pointless as relates to a scripted fictional movie.
post #45 of 71
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For those expecting Cameron to see extinct Meglodons or some other prehistoric fish (), there is life in the Challanger Deep:

Life Is Found Thriving at Ocean's Deepest Point

http://news.nationalgeographic.com/n...3_deepest.html
post #46 of 71
I go away for a few days and suddenly the Forum has a great thread....


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Jacques Piccard, inventor of the specialized form of submarine that he dubbed a "bathyscaphe", which uses gasoline for bouyancy instead of air, and has a ton of so of iron shot ballast held by an electromagnet.

That's an interesting tidbit.


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I don't know what it is but i just hate James Cameron. Some of his movies are great, of course, but i just despise the guy.

Luv it, and on the 6th post too.


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You are just bitter and jealous of his success.
I had to get that trite response out of the way.

Trite?
How about accurate instead.


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It's his passion and is going to cost millions...why not add the cost to A2's budget. I'm sure the studio signed off on the deal.

What studio WOULDN'T sign-off on a sequel to Avatar?

The guy has made a career life out of proving others wrong.
Anyone know if any of his companies are publicly traded?
post #47 of 71
Thread Starter 
EXCLUSIVE: James Cameron Will Make Record-Setting $350M From 'Avatar'

http://www.deadline.com/2010/07/excl...m-from-avatar/
post #48 of 71
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Anyone know if any of his companies are publicly traded?

Lightstorm Entertainment

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lightstorm_Entertainment

I don't know if it is a public company.
post #49 of 71
It isn't. It's privately owned by him and his partners. Look it up on Linkedin. Most entertainment companies that aren't owned by conglomerates are private.

He also owned Digital Domain back in the 90s, but I don't know if he's still involved. He's probably on the boards or has a financial interest in many other companies. Most of these guys have varying involvement in all sorts of places.
post #50 of 71
Was just thinking... That deep, it's dark. Pitch black dark. WTF is he trying to photograph? Lot's of inky blacks?
post #51 of 71
I guess he would bring along a flashlight or 2...
post #52 of 71
Maybe he's just looking for inspiration for his next movie. Might be some mighty weird looking life forms down there. Certainly they'll be stranger than 10 foot tall blue hominids with coaxial tails.
post #53 of 71
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Maybe he's just looking for inspiration for his next movie. Might be some mighty weird looking life forms down there. Certainly they'll be stranger than 10 foot tall blue hominids with coaxial tails.

I don't know what inspiration he is going to find at that kind of depth. You are talking about 15,000 PSI. Any life forms are going to be tiny in size if at all.

He loves diving. He loves 3D. And he has a ton of money. Plus he gets more money if he suceeds - the $10 million X-Prize.

More men have stood on the Moon (12) then have been to the Challenger Deep (2)
post #54 of 71
Yeah, the Trieste guys reported seeing a flatfish, but that's been disputed. Not easy to see what something actually is through a tiny window. The robotic subs have seen various invertebrates, but nothing that was really unknown or unusual. Far more spectacular things have been sighted at much shallower depths.

To me, the voyage is more like the oft quoted reason to climb a mountain. "Because it's there."
post #55 of 71
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...10 foot tall blue hominids with coaxial tails.

Those were fiber-optic tails! Much more bandwidth than coax...
post #56 of 71
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Was just thinking... That deep, it's dark. Pitch black dark. WTF is he trying to photograph? Lot's of inky blacks?

Maybe he's just trying to calibrate his LCD's black-levels before filming.
post #57 of 71
Thread Starter 
If anyone is interested, there is a TV show on The Science Channel (HD) call Dive To The Bottom Of the World. It is about the 2009 expedition that sent an ROV to the Challenger Deep
post #58 of 71
THIS JUST IN: Phil Lord and Chris Miller to dive the Marinara Trench for Cloudy with a Chance of Meatballs 2.



C'mon, somebody had to do it.
post #59 of 71
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THIS JUST IN: Phil Lord and Chris Miller to dive the Marinara Trench for Cloudy with a Chance of Meatballs 2.



C'mon, somebody had to do it.

Nice.
post #60 of 71
Well, he went down and made it back. Didn't unleash Godzilla or Megladon or anything.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/environmen...ric-solo-drive

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"When I came down and landed, it was a very, very, soft, almost gelatinous flat plane, an almost featureless plane, that went out of sight as far as I could see," Cameron said during a press meeting aboard Octopus, the yacht owned by his friend, the Microsoft co-founder, Paul Allen. "Once I got my bearings and started moving around, I drove across it for quite a distance and I finally started to come to the slope that went up to the [trench] wall and I started working up that wall."

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Cameron said: "I didn't see anything bigger than an inch long. I was hoping to get to rock outcroppings where I expected to see filter feeders and a different community there, but unfortunately I ran out of power before I got that far. We're going to have to do that on a different dive.

So no Atlantis or mystical creatures or underwater Thundersmurfs.

This made me go "eep!", though.

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Under the intense pressure of 1,000 atmospheres, the submarine, which is almost 30ft long and hangs in the water like a vertical torpedo, was squeezed and became seven centimetres shorter. (The observation window bulged inward.)
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