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post #1 of 7
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I am a first time neophyte at this and know just enough to get me in trouble.

My intent is to set up four separate zones in my home containing two pair of 8 ohm speakers with each pair is to be controlled by impedance matched volume controls. I intend to use the amplifier's secondary (Zone 2) analog output for these zones. Unfortunately there is only one set of terminals for L & R speakers. The amp is designed to handle an impedance load between 6 and 8 ohms.

The problem I have encountered occurred when I initially powered up only two pair of speakers and had the amp's safety trip kick out after a while. The instruction sheet showed the speakers wired in a parallel circuit with the impedance matching switch set to one of three settings1/2 X , 4X , or 8X depending upon the number of speakers connected. To trace the problem I began checked resistance to determine if either the speakers or volume controls were defective. I realize that static DC resistance is actually lower than operating AC impedance but thought that it might point me in the right direction. This table shows my resistance readings of the individual speaker pairs and the pairs connected in parallel and in series.

No. of 8 ohm pairs...............1 to 2.........3 to 4.........5 to 8
Switch Setting....................1/2 X...........4 X.............8 X

Pair #1...................L..........3.6 Ω..........4.7 Ω..........7.5 Ω
............................R..........3.6 Ω..........4.8 Ω..........7.6 Ω

Pair #2...................L..........3.5 Ω..........4.7 Ω..........7.1 Ω
............................R..........3.7 Ω..........4.9 Ω..........7.1 Ω

Parallel...................L..........1.9 Ω..........3.0 Ω..........3.6 Ω
Connection.............R..........1.9 Ω..........3.0 Ω..........3.6 Ω

Series....................L..........7.0 Ω..........9.5 Ω..........13.6 Ω
Connection.............R..........7.0 Ω..........9.5 Ω..........13.6 Ω

I was surprise to find that the recommended parallel connection with the switch set to 1/2 X for these two pairs gave me a resistance load of only 1.9 ohms! Is it any wonder the breaker tripped? When switched to the 8X setting (for 5 to 8 pair) the reading went up to 3.6 ohms. Just the opposite of what I expected. I then took it one step further and set these two pair up in series to increase impedance and now the settings were in a more acceptable range when set to the 1/2 X setting.

I have contacted the manufacturer and asked if there could be a possibility that either the impedance matched volume controls had switch settings labeled incorrectly or whether the schematic showing a parallel circuit was drawn incorrectly. I am still awaiting a response.

I would appreciate receiving any thoughts or suggestions.

Many Thanks.
post #2 of 7
why didnt you use the speaker selector like i suggested before?
post #3 of 7
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Originally Posted by ifor View Post

why didnt you use the speaker selector like i suggested before?

Thanks for your reply, however, this was my first post and I haven't received any replies until yours. Would you mind explaining what you mean by using a "speaker selector". I though these were designed to turn certain rooms on or off and I didn't want to go through that trouble. I just wanted to have all rooms on all the time and just use the individual room's volume control.
post #4 of 7
sry, thought you were someone else.

a speaker selector has an impedence device built in, so you would not need the use of the impedence vc's.
it is much more reliable than using the vc's as impedence devices.

you want to home run from each vc to the equipment location. do you have more than 1 pair of speakers on a vc? i would suggest getting a speaker selector to handle the impedence matching and use the vc's for volume.
post #5 of 7
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I am only powering one pair of speakers with each volume control unit. The units I purchased have 2 transformers built in and have 4 wires in and 4 wires out. If I understand you correctly I would just set the vc to the 1/2 X setting (for a single pair) no matter how many vc's are being powered. This selector box then has the ability to automatically adjust the impedance to the 8 ohm level that my amp is designed to see. Wow, this does seem much simpler than trying to do the balancing that I have been attempting. This then begs the question...what is the advantage of impedance matching vc's? Also, what do I look for when buying a selector box? After reading your response I Googled for more info and found quite a range in pricing.

Thanks again for your input.
post #6 of 7
impedence matching vc's would be useful if you had more than 1 pair running off of one vc. otherwise, i dont like them.

how the speaker selectors impedence match will determine the price. dont get the cheap ones, as they use heat to dissipate the power. get one that uses an autoformer.

the speaker selector will bring the ohm down to around 6 ohms overall.
post #7 of 7
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by ifor View Post

impedence matching vc's would be useful if you had more than 1 pair running off of one vc. otherwise, i dont like them.

how the speaker selectors impedence match will determine the price. dont get the cheap ones, as they use heat to dissipate the power. get one that uses an autoformer.

the speaker selector will bring the ohm down to around 6 ohms overall.

Per your recommendation I did some research on selector boxes utilizing autoformer technology and placed an order for a 6 zone unit. I now anxiously look forward its receipt. I also received a reply from the company that sold me the inpedance matched vc's and they did indicate that they have heard about one other problem like mine...bet there are more that they aren't admitting.

I really appreciate your comments and suggestions. It's been an education.

Thanks much, Jo
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