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post #121 of 172
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Originally Posted by Jamie E View Post

This is fantastic news. I haven't been disappointed in any Fincher movies on Blu-ray yet (not a stickler for the silver retention look), so I have high hopes. The only problem will be paying that Criterion price premium, but it'll be worth it for The Game.

Without it the dark scenes loose detail and get murky the blacks can also crush and all shadow detail can vanish.
post #122 of 172
One of those love/hate kinds of films. It's definitely creepy and suspenseful and then all of the film's logic and rules fall apart at the end.

Didn't they re-shoot the ending to shoe-horn in an illogical "happy" one full of deus ex machina moments due to test audiences' negative reactions? It sure seems that way at least.

IMHO it should have ended this way:

Best laid plans so neatly and methodically prepped and staged by "the company" are spirally out of control. Douglas' character, Nicholas, in desperation, actually gets a hold of a real gun with real bullets and accidentally and fatally shoots his brother, Conrad.

Then everything goes to hell in a hand basket. With Christine pleading at him to stop, Nicholas, despondent, jumps off the roof and smashs through the atrium's glass ceiling and dies right in the middle of a surprise dinner party with its horrified guests awaiting his arrival.

Conrad's misguided attempts at "redeeming" his brother have gone off the rails. The slightly sinister "company," always pushing the limits, went too far this time and drove a man over the edge (a man who, ironically, had changed) with their twisted cat and mouse games.

Fiction has just become bloody reality. It's a real smack in the face to Christine (who cares deeply for Nicholas and who feels guilty for her roll in this catastrophe) and Jim Feingold and all those company participants and friends who let this get so totally out of hand. The rolls have been reversed. It is they who have become irredeemable.

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It would have been a more fitting and almost Rod Serling-esque, "Twilight Zone" kind of conclusion.
Edited by Dan Hitchman - 6/20/12 at 11:35pm
post #123 of 172
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Originally Posted by dvdmike007 View Post

they do say approved transfers

Which means what? Probably that they took the Universal transfer and let Gilliam/Soderbergh/whoever give it a quick going-over. It's been clear for years that "director approved" means very little as far as quality goes; sad as it is, I'm willing to bet maybe 7 out of 10 directors would never look at a transfer and say "it looks like crap, do a new one," unless someone was trying to fob off an SD transfer as HD (and even then I wouldn't be so confident). I see no reason to believe they're just outright lying about it.
post #124 of 172
But Fincher seems to put an effort into his realeses... Even if you don't like the new look of Seven or the old DVD look etc.
post #125 of 172
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Originally Posted by Spiritual_Chaos View Post

But Fincher seems to put an effort into his realeses... Even if you don't like the new look of Seven or the old DVD look etc.

The blu looks fine, the DVD was just all kinds of wrong
post #126 of 172
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Originally Posted by Spiritual_Chaos View Post

But Fincher seems to put an effort into his realeses... Even if you don't like the new look of Seven or the old DVD look etc.
As dvdmike said, there's nothing wrong with the Blu-ray release of Se7en. In fact what he (and I) want to see for this BD release is exactly what they did for Se7en, where they fixed the DVD colors and attempted to replicate the silver retention look digitally.
Edited by Deviation - 6/22/12 at 7:38am
post #127 of 172
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Originally Posted by Deviation View Post

As dvdmike said, there's nothing wrong with the Blu-ray release of Se7en. In fact what he (and I) want to see for this BD release is exactly what they did for Se7en, where they fixed the DVD colors and attempted to replicate the silver retention look digitally.

Yep
post #128 of 172
Amazon notified me the delivery date changed to the 11th.
Can't see any reviews on it yet. Still 5 weeks out.
post #129 of 172
How many reviewers know about how it should look?? Se7en shows that not many do
post #130 of 172
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Originally Posted by Deviation View Post

As dvdmike said, there's nothing wrong with the Blu-ray release of Se7en. In fact what he (and I) want to see for this BD release is exactly what they did for Se7en, where they fixed the DVD colors and attempted to replicate the silver retention look digitally.
But has Fincher ever stated that that was what he/they wanted for the BD? Or is it just a step back from the DVD, further pushing of the contrasts because that is how Fincher wants it too look now in 2012 but not to 100% make it look like the bleach bypass prints?

Or does the BD now look like the theatrical prints and what the LD can give a hint of how that would look?

I always thought Fincher redid the colortiming but to his new liking and not necessary to go back to how "it originally looked"?
post #131 of 172
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Originally Posted by Spiritual_Chaos View Post

But has Fincher ever stated that that was what he/they wanted for the BD? Or is it just a step back from the DVD, further pushing of the contrasts because that is how Fincher wants it too look now in 2012 but not to 100% make it look like the bleach bypass prints?
Or does the BD now look like the theatrical prints and what the LD can give a hint of how that would look?
I always thought Fincher redid the colortiming but to his new liking and not necessary to go back to how "it originally looked"?

The LD is closer by far than the UK BD, he did it for se7en finally so why not this?
Because he is still pissed at Darius?
I doubt it, as se7en was fixed (mostly)
post #132 of 172
post #133 of 172
Hmmmmm
post #134 of 172
Goddamn there's some nasty compression noise in those grabs.
post #135 of 172
Yes, there's definitely some visible noise in the screen grabs. Who knows if its from the source or the JPEG compression. However, the level of fine detail is very impressive- just oogle capture number 4.
post #136 of 172
I would not read too deeply into 200KB JPEG captures. That reviewer's captures tend to have compression issues, Blu-ray.com's The Thin Red Line review also has some unsightly JPEG noise that's not on the disc.
post #137 of 172
This is looking good. Back when Fincher was at the top of his game though I did enjoy the facebook film.
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post #139 of 172
This is one of my all-time favorite films. I'm definitely going to buy the Criterion Blu-ray version!
post #140 of 172
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Originally Posted by dvdmike007 View Post

http://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/143087
I hope to see some exact frame grabs, this one is not and it is not good for comparison.

Here's a little more exact grab from the same blu-ray.com review: http://www.screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/143232 , Criterion ooks boosted with less detail than the Universal BD.
post #141 of 172
I like the Criterion grab better than Universals drabby whites and crushed blacks....
post #142 of 172
Less detail my bum. Yer looking at some tiny screengrab. The Uni is a mediocre rendition of this film. Criterion is not going to mess this up unless they find 9 hours of HD docs to slam on the disc lol.
post #143 of 172
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Originally Posted by khronikos View Post

Less detail my bum. Yer looking at some tiny screengrab. The Uni is a mediocre rendition of this film. Criterion is not going to mess this up unless they find 9 hours of HD docs to slam on the disc lol.

What are you basing that on?
post #144 of 172
I thought it was common knowledge, Criterion were gimping encodes to fit as much extras on certain titles, when they really, really should be importing them on to a 2nd disc.
post #145 of 172
I thought it was common knowledge that Criterion are not the be all and end all when it comes to transfers
post #146 of 172
Blasphemy!

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post #147 of 172
I'm not going to start off naming titles because people will just argue but they have had their fair share of titles that have been quite gimped as in 20-25Mbps encodes with loads of, to me, useless extras I will watch once and never again.
post #148 of 172
Extras add up to about 1 hour plus a commentary track, and the 1080p screen caps at blu-ray.com look outstanding to me. I'm glad I preordered and am really looking forward to enjoying this movie again for the first time this millennium!
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post #150 of 172
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Originally Posted by hsinnott View Post

dvd beaver review up....
http://www.dvdbeaver.com/film3/blu-ray_reviews52/the_game_blu-ray.htm
Those guys are still butchering their captures? sheesh...
why companies send these guys review copies is beyond me...
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