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post #31 of 2485
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Originally Posted by davemccr View Post

So to speak... Costco has them in my area... Price is the same as retail for the 42", only you get the 46" and one pair of glasses for that price. Overall, looks like a very nice set. But for twice the price of a g25. I'm not too sure that I can justify this for 3d...

It will drop hundreds of dollars by Christmas time, just wait if you wanna buy.
post #32 of 2485
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I wonder when CNET will review it?
post #33 of 2485
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Originally Posted by XxHoosierdaddy View Post

I wonder when CNET will review it?

I would imagine they'd have a review within a month. Sometimes reviews are early, sometimes they are late.

The biggest thing I'm curious to see is if the red and green phosphors are faster than the ones in the VT25 series! CNet is running Panasonic's "kids with red/green t-shirts" banner add... lolz!
post #34 of 2485
Ahhhhh the plot thickens.


Here I was JUST deciding that the VT was not worth 1000 dollar premium for 3D and 96hz. HOWEVER, since these new sets have 96hz and 3D and should be sitting around 4-500 bucks higher than the g25s I'm stuck again! LOL!

3D I can do without, but the 96hz option is fairly big to me since my old eyes get cranky with much judder or flicker.
post #35 of 2485
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Originally Posted by Lantern View Post

Ahhhhh the plot thickens.


Here I was JUST deciding that the VT was not worth 1000 dollar premium for 3D and 96hz. HOWEVER, since these new sets have 96hz and 3D and should be sitting around 4-500 bucks higher than the g25s I'm stuck again! LOL!

3D I can do without, but the 96hz option is fairly big to me since my old eyes get cranky with much judder or flicker.

I dont think the Gt25s have 96hzs
post #36 of 2485
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Originally Posted by XxHoosierdaddy View Post

I dont think the Gt25s have 96hzs


In the review under the features it mentions 96 hz. If this set really is just 3D then I'm still goin G25 flicker and judder be danged. LOL!

http://www.avforums.com/review/Panas...20-Review.html

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When watching Blu-rays encoded at 24fps the P42GT20 has a 24p Playback function that will increase the frame rate to a more appropriate 96Hz which is a multiple of 24. There is also a 24p Smooth Film function that does something similar but includes frame interpolation and is best left off unless you want your film-like image to look more like video.


I guess we will just have to wait and see.
post #37 of 2485
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Interesting, I read elsewhere that it didn't
post #38 of 2485
I'm really interested in the GT25 and it's ability to convert 2D to 3D for things like Hockey broadcasts.

Does anyone know where or when it will be available? I've called Bestbuy, Ultimate Electronics, and even Panasonic directly...no one seems to have an answer.
post #39 of 2485
Costco (GT24), Fry's and Sears have them now.
post #40 of 2485
Interesting avforums review specifically mentions the TV decodes DD+. I wonder if VieraCast is getting Vudu. I sure hope so. No point in starting that rumor though. We will see I guess.
post #41 of 2485
Posted this on the "Official Panasonic TC-PxxVT20/25 Owners Thread NO PRICE TALK!!" thread yesterday. Thought it should go here as a cross reference too.
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Originally Posted by Paul H View Post

Wouldn't mind having the Panasonic Viera GT24's 46" screen in the bedroom for the Costco price - while they throw in the 3D blu-ray player and "essentials kit" for free via their instant rebate at the cash register. The GT24 doesn't have a 96Hz refresh rate option that the VT series has, i.e. just 24fps 48Hz & 60Hz for both 2D & 3D, but I've been using 60Hz, (really 120Hz in 3D mode) for the VT25 anyway, which is great. A bonus feature (or novelty to some) lacking in the VT25, this set also has the 2D to 3D Depth conversion feature with three settings, Minimum, Medium and Maximum to watch 2D programs/films in 3D mode.

Paul
post #42 of 2485
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Originally Posted by Paul H View Post

Posted this on the "Official Panasonic TC-PxxVT20/25 Owners Thread NO PRICE TALK!!" thread yesterday. Thought it should go here as a cross reference too.

thanks for the post. So it is true that the tv doesn't have 96 hzs. Thank you. I need to go check this tv out.
post #43 of 2485
Has anyone tried watching planet earth converted? This feature is lacking in the vt25, and I can't decide whether to buy a gt or at vt for this reason, and I don't even know if its even a worthwhile feature that outweighs the superior picture quality from the vt series.
post #44 of 2485
I finally decided to stop reading and start going out and really looking at different products.

At the store I checked out the 2D to 3D on the Samsung for movies and for Soccer ( I watch Hockey but thought it would be comparable).

I was not impressed at all and ultimately bought the VT25. I think when you first see 3D there is the "wow" factor, but once that is over, its going to come down to content that is filmed with 3D in mind. Otherwise it really is just a gimmick.

Since I've gotten the set home, I am absolutely floored how good the blacks and color accuracy are. The 3D effect is so much better with darker lighting and without other TV's around to set off flicker.

I guess the question for the GT25 is whether Panasonic is using any different algorithm than the other manufacturers for 2d->3d.
post #45 of 2485
FlatpanelsHD posted a Panasonic GT25 review yesterday:
Panasonic GT25 review
post #46 of 2485
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Originally Posted by johnmistar View Post

FlatpanelsHD posted a Panasonic GT25 review yesterday:
Panasonic GT25 review

One thing thats really annoying me in Panasonics 3DTV reviews, is that image retention is actually worse than last year, thanks to the new phosphers.
post #47 of 2485
Now trying to decide between the c8000 or a gt25. Don't really wany to spend the extra money for the vt25. This decision has been agonizing.
post #48 of 2485
Did anyone buy the GT series yet? I am torn between the VT50. I had the salesman at Fry's try to turn on the 2d to 3d conversion but they didn't have it hooked up to any live broadcast and frankly he didn't know what he was doing.

I may buy the 46 GT at Costco. They have a 90 day return policy. Although, I can get a pretty good deal on the VT50 at a local place in Houston.
post #49 of 2485
Yeah I bought the 50" gt 25...it will be arriving tomorrow. I'll be happy to answer any questions.
post #50 of 2485
Considering the 96hz feature on the VT25 is crap thanks to banding and contour artifacts, I don't see myself paying an extra half g for slightly superior PQ.


I'd like to see some input lag info on the GT20/25 before buying it though.

I'd be all over the c8000 if not for the input lag.
post #51 of 2485
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Originally Posted by barbwire21 View Post

Did anyone buy the GT series yet? I am torn between the VT50. I had the salesman at Fry's try to turn on the 2d to 3d conversion but they didn't have it hooked up to any live broadcast and frankly he didn't know what he was doing.

I may buy the 46 GT at Costco. They have a 90 day return policy. Although, I can get a pretty good deal on the VT50 at a local place in Houston.

I bought the 46" Gt at Costco on Sunday. It seems to have a yellow tint to the picture and I am disappointed. I already own a Panny Plasma and it doesn't, so i called Panny and they said that isn't normal and I could have a service call. I will probably switch it out.

so far the 2d to 3d isn't that great, but the 3d is super.

I am wondering if I should go get the VT.
post #52 of 2485
I've had the VT25 for a couple of weeks. Break-in is finished and I am thrilled with the 2D and 3D picture quality.

The Panasonic blu-ray player it came with however, is very disappointing. Skips chronically on 2D blu rays. I eventually swapped it out for my PS3 as the primary player.
post #53 of 2485
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Originally Posted by Jtrizzy View Post

Yeah I bought the 50" gt 25...it will be arriving tomorrow. I'll be happy to answer any questions.

Floating blacks?
post #54 of 2485
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Originally Posted by barbwire21 View Post

I bought the 46" Gt at Costco on Sunday. It seems to have a yellow tint to the picture and I am disappointed. I already own a Panny Plasma and it doesn't, so i called Panny and they said that isn't normal and I could have a service call. I will probably switch it out.

so far the 2d to 3d isn't that great, but the 3d is super.

I am wondering if I should go get the VT.

Ok my tv seems to be defective. The picture shakes sometimes during the news if they use different video. Once I saw black spots on a video of water. Is that floating black?

I am going to switch it out for a new set. Where is their QControl?
post #55 of 2485
Yea that sounds like a messed up TV.

Floating blacks is when you are looking at a mostly black scene and the black is changing on you (getting brighter/more gray ). Want to say changing colors on you but that is not exactly correct.

They are the main reason I have not bought a plasma yet.
post #56 of 2485
Hi all! Long time lurker, first time poster. I just got a 50" GT25 yesterday. I can see what people are talking about when describing it as "grainy", but I can only see that if I'm within 4 feet of it. I don't hear any buzz at all. I don't have 3D glasses so I can't comment on that part of it, but I'll answer any questions if people are interested.
post #57 of 2485
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Originally Posted by toolman02 View Post

Hi all! Long time lurker, first time poster. I just got a 50" GT25 yesterday. I can see what people are talking about when describing it as "grainy", but I can only see that if I'm within 4 feet of it. I don't hear any buzz at all. I don't have 3D glasses so I can't comment on that part of it, but I'll answer any questions if people are interested.

My GT25 arrived on Monday, but I haven't had a chance to unpack it yet. I also have not purchased the glasses, as I'm still debating if it's worth waiting for the new models (with different sizes, better light blocking, lower weight) to become readily available (and possibly come down from their current $160/pair price), or go for the older glasses, which are about $95/pair now.

What source material are you using when you see the 'graininess'? And what are you comparing this display to? I'm coming from a bargain 1080p Vizio LCD display, and my main gripe with that is the banding in bright scenes.
post #58 of 2485
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Originally Posted by XxHoosierdaddy View Post

I wonder when CNET will review it?

CNET's full review is available now.

Here's the path:
Home > Reviews > Flat-panel TVs > Panasonic flat-panel tvs > Panasonic TC-P42GT25

(I apparently can't post links unless I get 3 posts under my belt.)
post #59 of 2485
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Originally Posted by fmonaky View Post

CNET's full review is available now.

Here's the path:
Home > Reviews > Flat-panel TVs > Panasonic flat-panel tvs > Panasonic TC-P42GT25

(I apparently can't post links unless I get 3 posts under my belt.)

I couldn't find it going down your path - but i believe this is it:

http://reviews.cnet.com/flat-panel-t...?tag=mncol;lst
post #60 of 2485
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Originally Posted by fmonaky View Post

What source material are you using when you see the 'graininess'? And what are you comparing this display to?

I'm coming from a 4 year old 42" 720p Visio LCD, so it's a tough comparison. I've tried several different sources: Uverse, over the air HD, etc. I took a shot with my digital camera from about 8 inches away to try and highlight the effect (over the air HD). I have to add that from farther away the TV looks amazing. Perhaps all plasmas look like this up close? I can't post links yet but it's on imgur:

imgur.com/8vLHO.jpg

I also noticed that I have two pixels that aren't completely functional: the first one won't turn red and the second one won't turn blue. Not a huge deal but I thought that issues like this were a thing of the past.
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