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post #361 of 2473
1/21/11 at 6:06am
I have been watching my 50" GT25 for the past 4 days and running break in slides. One thing I have noticed while running the slides. The color seems a little blotchy towards the middle of the screen. It's very subtle but noticeable. Has anyone else run into this? I don't think it's a problem as I do not notice it while watching normal programming/ blu-rays.

On a side note, my TV also buzzes but only on very bright scenes.
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post #362 of 2473
1/21/11 at 11:10am
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Originally Posted by zakdaripper View Post

I have been watching my 50" GT25 for the past 4 days and running break in slides. One thing I have noticed while running the slides. The color seems a little blotchy towards the middle of the screen. It's very subtle but noticeable. Has anyone else run into this? I don't think it's a problem as I do not notice it while watching normal programming/ blu-rays.

On a side note, my TV also buzzes but only on very bright scenes.

mine buzzes too but only on very bright scenes.

not sure how much is normal buzz and how much isn't.

september 2010 build
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post #363 of 2473
1/21/11 at 2:34pm
I have owned a 42" GT20 for the past 6 weeks or so. Being in the uk it has different setting numbers but I would like to know if anyone has experienced the following fault? When viewing at 60hz(which for me is all data files played through my Sony blu ray player. All blu rays and xbox 360) if the contrast is set to +16 or more from the centre position(around 75% of the way if on a US set I reckon) then I get horrible purple/green lines flashing on the image,usually on peoples faces or light backgrounds. It has got worse as time has gone on. Does anyone know what this is and is it a fault? I would be interested to know if you can try it on your sets to see!

I have included 2 photos....
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post #364 of 2473
1/21/11 at 2:43pm
so whats the best for THX settings? thats for when u watch blu-rays. correct?
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post #365 of 2473
1/21/11 at 5:21pm
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Originally Posted by horsey147 View Post

I have owned a 42" GT20 for the past 6 weeks or so. Being in the uk it has different setting numbers but I would like to know if anyone has experienced the following fault? When viewing at 60hz(which for me is all data files played through my Sony blu ray player. All blu rays and xbox 360) if the contrast is set to +16 or more from the centre position(around 75% of the way if on a US set I reckon) then I get horrible purple/green lines flashing on the image,usually on peoples faces or light backgrounds. It has got worse as time has gone on. Does anyone know what this is and is it a fault? I would be interested to know if you can try it on your sets to see!

I have included 2 photos....

I watch blu-ray movies using my PS3 and have never had that issue. My contrast is +29 right now.

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Originally Posted by ChronBong View Post

so whats the best for THX settings? thats for when u watch blu-rays. correct?

My settings for THX mode are on page 12. As far as I know, you can use it for anything you're viewing, not just blu-ray movies. Someone correct me here if I'm wrong.
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post #366 of 2473
1/21/11 at 6:35pm
Last year the LG 550 and Panny G20/25 were considered best bang for buck sets for 2010 based upon PQ, value, and features for price point. Now, at the clearance prices being offered, the GT25 earns that distinction. Better PQ than G25 and 3D added. Excellent TV, great price now lower than G25, very pleased.
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post #367 of 2473
1/21/11 at 7:25pm
the sounds are weako n my g25...sounds good for games but for movies...why does it sound so weak, especailly i have bass boost on...and im at 60 volume...still doesnt sound what i wanted it to sound on the tv. yes i only got the tv. no speakers.
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post #368 of 2473
1/21/11 at 7:53pm
had the 42 inch gt25 for 2 days now and im loving it so far. i havent really settled in to enjoy anything yet, im just jumping around trying to avoid black bars and station logos, and watching bits and pieces of 3d stuff on demand. couldnt be happier with the purchase, but i cant stop bouncing back and forth on the black level setting.

i have basically just started out on thx mode and think it looks great, but i dont really love either black level setting. the light setting looks washed out to me, with everything kinda gray, and the dark setting really looks great but loses alot of details

seems like the light setting is the popular choice here but i dont understand why
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post #369 of 2473
1/22/11 at 5:26am
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Originally Posted by elmorage View Post

had the 42 inch gt25 for 2 days now and im loving it so far. i havent really settled in to enjoy anything yet, im just jumping around trying to avoid black bars and station logos, and watching bits and pieces of 3d stuff on demand. couldnt be happier with the purchase, but i cant stop bouncing back and forth on the black level setting.

i have basically just started out on thx mode and think it looks great, but i dont really love either black level setting. the light setting looks washed out to me, with everything kinda gray, and the dark setting really looks great but loses alot of details

seems like the light setting is the popular choice here but i dont understand why

That is my problem also (that is why I think THX mode is not the way to go), but the washed out setting looks like my 40" samsung LCD, that I thought looked great till I purchased this TV.

I am still getting some IR in black ops in 3D (in 3D the levels have to be way up to compensate for the darkness that the glasses cause) but the weird thing is if I zoom the picture I see a lot less IR than not zoomed in at all but my huds are at the corners of the screen and I loose some.
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post #370 of 2473
1/22/11 at 10:25am
so the gt-25 is a g25 with 3D added? i liked the 2D PQ of the g25. a local store is selling this tv cheap. so i might go look at it today or tomorrow
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post #371 of 2473
1/22/11 at 10:32am
received my TV a couple of days ago from panasonic EPP. took about a week to get delivered but was relatively painless.

set the TV and have been watching whatever I want but I have to wait until Monday to get my 3d programming from TWC. Tried playing a couple of games in 3d on my ps3 but couldn't get them to work right! So I ordered some new hdmi 1.4a cables (old ones were 1.3) and hopefully that will solve my problems.

tv is the 42" GT25.


on a side note, yesterday I sent in my receipt and UPC barcode for the Avatar in 3d. hopefully I get a copy!
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post #372 of 2473
1/22/11 at 10:55am
I setup a GT25 yesterday with a calibration disc. Pleased to say that I had very little to tweak. Out of the box, the THX mode is extremely accurate, and looks outstanding.
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post #373 of 2473
1/22/11 at 12:07pm
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Originally Posted by redwolf4k View Post

I setup a GT25 yesterday with a calibration disc. Pleased to say that I had very little to tweak. Out of the box, the THX mode is extremely accurate, and looks outstanding.

Just curious as to how you adjusted your TV and what did you have to adjust? I have the Disney WOW disc on order and I wasn't sure it was worth the $ if very few adjustments need to be made. I am very pleased with the THX settings out of the box but figured some minor changes needed to be made.
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post #374 of 2473
1/22/11 at 1:39pm
Here are the settings I have been using. I also have a Kuro 5080 and the 50GT25 seems to match or even best my Kuro in black level right now. I'm hoping I won't notice too much of a difference after the rise.

Picture Mode: 2D: THX 3D: Cinema

Contrast: +67 3D: +100

Brightness: +52

Color: +50 3D: +41

Tint: 0

Sharpness: +10

Color Temp: Warm2

Color Mgmt.: Off

C.A.T.S.: Off

Video NR: Off

Blur Reduction: On

Screen Format: Full

HD Size: Size 2

HDMI/DVI Range: Auto

Block NR: Off

Mosquito NR: Off

Black Level: Light

3:2 Pulldown: Auto

2D: 60hz 3D: 48hz

There is some flicker in bright white at 48hz in 3D. The only place I notice it is in Resident Evil: Afterlife in the Alaska beach scene sky and the very end fight scene. I've watched Avatar, RE: Afterlife, Piranha 3D, and Cloudy with a Chance of Meatballs and that is the only times I've noticed flicker in 3D.
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post #375 of 2473
1/22/11 at 1:52pm
so i've had the 50gt for 3 weeks now.
I connected my DVD player to the components using the rgb cables i got from mp. the picture looks bluish or purplish.
tried both component 1 and 2.
thought it was the DVD player so i plugged my MG35 in, same thing.
I even flipped the cables around, even swapped the color cable (not sure if it makes a difference if red cable goes to blue ports)
I plug the green only, I get a grayish color, then put in the blue, turns bluish, no change when red is plugged.

using the normal AV jacks work fine.

anyone have the same issue?
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post #376 of 2473
1/22/11 at 4:15pm
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Originally Posted by redwolf4k View Post

I setup a GT25 yesterday with a calibration disc. Pleased to say that I had very little to tweak. Out of the box, the THX mode is extremely accurate, and looks outstanding.

would you mind posting your settings?
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post #377 of 2473
1/22/11 at 4:23pm
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Originally Posted by gas_leak View Post

Here are the settings I have been using. I also have a Kuro 5080 and the 50GT25 seems to match or even best my Kuro in black level right now. I'm hoping I won't notice too much of a difference after the rise.

I'm using your settings for the time being. Only thing I changed is the black level, I have to have it on dark. On light, everything looks completely washed out, and it drives me crazy.
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post #378 of 2473
1/22/11 at 4:28pm
iam going to the local store tomorrow and look at the 50 inch gt25
they are selling it at a nice price. but i still might waite for the gt-30
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post #379 of 2473
1/22/11 at 4:42pm
I have a 54G25 when I connect to the network wired or wireless I can only get sound through my TV speakers and not my AVR system. I have tried everything I can think of with both the TV and AVR settings but no luck.

Any ideas?
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post #380 of 2473
1/22/11 at 5:13pm
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Originally Posted by jaded07 View Post

I'm using your settings for the time being. Only thing I changed is the black level, I have to have it on dark. On light, everything looks completely washed out, and it drives me crazy.

I'm using a PS3 and a Panasonic BDT-100.

I have the PS3 setting RGB Full Range (HDMI) set to Limited under the Display settings.

I have the BDT-100 setting Black Level Control set to Lighter under the video settings.

Whatever you have connected should be set to lighter levels also and it shouldn't look washed out. Hope that helps.
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post #381 of 2473
1/22/11 at 6:58pm
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Originally Posted by gas_leak View Post

Here are the settings I have been using. I also have a Kuro 5080 and the 50GT25 seems to match or even best my Kuro in black level right now. I'm hoping I won't notice too much of a difference after the rise.

Picture Mode: THX

Contrast: +67 3D: +100

Brightness: +52

Color: +50 3D: +41

Tint: 0

Sharpness: +10

Color Temp: Warm2

Color Mgmt.: Off

C.A.T.S.: Off

Video NR: Off

Blur Reduction: On

Screen Format: Full

HD Size: Size 2

HDMI/DVI Range: Auto

Block NR: Off

Mosquito NR: Off

Black Level: Light

3:2 Pulldown: Auto

2D: 60hz 3D: 48hz


is it common practice to pump up the contrast settings when watching 3d? does that help with the pop out effects?
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post #382 of 2473
1/22/11 at 7:47pm
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Originally Posted by elmorage View Post

is it common practice to pump up the contrast settings when watching 3d? does that help with the pop out effects?

It helps make the picture brighter b/c the 3D glasses make the picture darker. It seems about the same brightness by upping the contrast to me.


Edit: Scratch that. I just checked out both 2D and 3D at 67 on Contrast and when it switches to 3D it automatically gets brighter. So you may not need to up the contrast for a brighter picture, seems the tv does it for you.

Edit 2: Just watched 25 minutes of Resident Evil Afterlife with the same contrast setting (67) and the 3D is darker than the 2D. I need to set contrast around 90 - 100 to get the 3D picture in Cinema to look the same as the 2D in THX.
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post #383 of 2473
1/22/11 at 9:08pm
does costco only carry the 46 inch GT25 becasue i called them and they have it.
but no other store has the 46 inch and its 300 dollars cheaper then the 50 inch.
and its going in my room i sit like 7 feet away will the 4 inches really matter??
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post #384 of 2473
1/22/11 at 9:49pm
the 46" is the costco version, it also comes with 1 pair of 3d glasses while the 50 and 42 don't
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post #385 of 2473
1/23/11 at 12:54am
I finally got my new meter and got all setup and running. I will start the actual calibration and post graphs tomorrow.

I did take a default pass after the TV was warmed up. I already calibrated my TV with a calibration disc (Disney WoW and Spears and Munsil). I will post a graph of this tomorrow too. But with contrast set before WTW clipping (which when I do my actual calibration, I will probably set it up to clip whiter than white but of course not to clip colors, as the set can only push 22ftL before clipping WTW). Oh it only clips white at such a low level in THX mode, custom you can crank it.

But just like TweakTV found, it does push a fair amount of red in the grayscale. Not too bad and SHOULD be able to get it down no problem. No Delta E's over 10, but most over 5 in the high end (really not bad for pre-cal).

I did do a gamut run, but forgot to save it. From what I can remember, it wasn't "great", not bad, but not "great".

Here are my THX mode settings just off of a cal disc and blue-filter.
Contrast +42
Brightness +59
Color +47
Tint +2
Sharpness 10
Black Level Light
And everything else turned off.

Gas_leak. You may be getting better blacks, because you are clipping black too as well as white
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post #386 of 2473
1/23/11 at 5:00am
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Originally Posted by Nutdotnet View Post

I finally got my new meter and got all setup and running. I will start the actual calibration and post graphs tomorrow.

I did take a default pass after the TV was warmed up. I already calibrated my TV with a calibration disc (Disney WoW and Spears and Munsil). I will post a graph of this tomorrow too. But with contrast set before WTW clipping (which when I do my actual calibration, I will probably set it up to clip whiter than white but of course not to clip colors, as the set can only push 22ftL before clipping WTW). Oh it only clips white at such a low level in THX mode, custom you can crank it.

But just like TweakTV found, it does push a fair amount of red in the grayscale. Not too bad and SHOULD be able to get it down no problem. No Delta E's over 10, but most over 5 in the high end (really not bad for pre-cal).

I did do a gamut run, but forgot to save it. From what I can remember, it wasn't "great", not bad, but not "great". Which color temp are you using?

Here are my THX mode settings just off of a cal disc and blue-filter.
Contrast +42
Brightness +59
Color +47
Tint +2
Sharpness 10
Black Level Light
And everything else turned off.

Gas_leak. You may be getting better blacks, because you are clipping black too as well as white

Did you have to make any adjustments within the service menu and which color temp are you using?
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post #387 of 2473
1/23/11 at 7:31am
If you want the 46", then Costco version is only choice. Should be same specs. Was able to get my 50" last week for same very good price as 46". I did get the Panny HTB500 soundbar at Costco and it works great with this TV but you do need HDMI 1.4 cable with ARC.
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post #388 of 2473
1/23/11 at 9:43am
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Originally Posted by Nutdotnet View Post

Gas_leak. You may be getting better blacks, because you are clipping black too as well as white

All I have is the DVE Blu-ray disc and I use the THX calibration on the SW: Episode III DVD.

I can still see the seventh box on the THX test pattern when set to 52, if I go to 51 it disappears completely. I'm not sure how to set the Contrast, I can go up as high as I want and still see all the boxes on the DVE patterns and THX patterns, they never blend together. How do you know when it is clipping white?

I also notice I can increase contrast up to 60 then the letterbox bars start becoming lighter, anything below that and they seem the same. I do see more details in the shadows with contrast at 59 and I can still see them at 52 but they don't stand out as much.
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post #389 of 2473
1/23/11 at 10:15am
iam going there 2 day to look at the 46 for the price they want its a great deal.
plus i dont think i will miss the 4 more inchs i will be 7 feet away in my bedroom.
i have a 32 inch now and its nice. for this price you cant go wrong and may be
in 4 years i will get a better now. i could get the gt-30 but i wont wanna have a credit card bill for 3 plus years lol
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post #390 of 2473
1/23/11 at 11:20am
Here is what I came up with in Custom and also new THX settings. I set the brightness when the btb bar disappears in DVE and didn't go any further.

Picture Mode: Custom

Contrast: +80
Brightness: +64
Color: +44
Tint: 0
Sharpness: +11

Color Temp: Warm2
Color Mgmt.: Off
C.A.T.S.: Off
Video NR: Off
Blur Reduction: On

Pro Settings:
W/B High R: 0
W/B High B: 0
W/B Low R: 0
W/B Low B: 0
Black Extension: 0
Gamma Adjustment: 2.2
Panel Brightness: Mid
Contour Emphasis: Off
AGC: 0

Screen Format: Full
HD Size: Size 2
HDMI/DVI Range: Auto
Block NR: Off
Mosquito NR: Off
Black Level: Light
3:2 Pulldown: Auto
2D: 60hz 3D: 48hz (less crosstalk) 60hz (no flicker but more crosstalk)

Picture Mode: THX

Contrast: +67
Brightness: +59
Color: +50
Tint: 0
Sharpness: +10

Color Temp: Warm2
Color Mgmt.: Off
C.A.T.S.: Off
Video NR: Off
Blur Reduction: On

Screen Format: Full
HD Size: Size 2
HDMI/DVI Range: Auto
Block NR: Off
Mosquito NR: Off
Black Level: Light
3:2 Pulldown: Auto
2D: 60hz 3D: 48hz (less crosstalk) 60hz (no flicker but more crosstalk)
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