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post #1681 of 2082
I have yet to have any issues what so ever with my 60px950. My pic is awsome and I did not do any sort of break in or slide stuff. I have also fell asleep once with tv on a channel that eneded and the screen was locked in place with content on it for a few hours and it did nothing to my screen. During this I didn't have my orbiter or wash on either (I always have orbiter turned on, not sure why/who turned it off) and it didn't hurt my tv. Not saying it's ok to not break-in or leave your tv on pause for hours etc. Just saying that this tv is amazing and I've not ever noticed any problems at all; no line bleed, no DSE, no burn in or temporay burn in, no problems at all. I'm a very picky person too, so this does say alot. I'm happy with the blacks too... Although I have viewed the vt25 and that tv does have better blacks, but giving everything else plus the price I paid, this is/was a better choice for me and I definitely wouldn't change it.
post #1682 of 2082
I was going to break in mine but after I hooked it all up I set it to some of the settings posted here and it looked so great that I decided to just go with it. I am just going to watch it and enjoy it. This is day number 2 and it seems like it looks better everytime I sit down to watch it.
post #1683 of 2082
Is the "input-lag" video input related? I mean, is it the same it'll be hdmi or component on resulting input-lag?

I.e, connecting wii, would it be better upscaling on a good dedicated image processing chip on an AVR? I'm afraid this way, although the upscaling may be better, the input-lag will increase vs pluging it just straight to the tv via component.

Whats your thoughts on this regards?
post #1684 of 2082
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Originally Posted by Kerman View Post

Is the "input-lag" video input related? I mean, is it the same it'll be hdmi or component on resulting input-lag?

I.e, connecting wii, would it be better upscaling on a good dedicated image processing chip on an AVR? I'm afraid this way, although the upscaling may be better, the input-lag will increase vs pluging it just straight to the tv via component.

Whats your thoughts on this regards?

An AVR will always introduce a little lag, but it would be unnoticeable unless you were playing competitively in a fast twitch game like Call of Duty. Unless it is a really nice image processor on the AVR, you can just turn it off to get rid of the lag. I turn mine off for xbox/ps3, but back on for Wii.
post #1685 of 2082
Been lurking for a while and following this thread in particular since some time in December. Waiting to pull the trigger on this TV and finally did today. Delivery will be Thursday next week at which point I'll be foregoing sleep for testing and set up.

And watching of course. I hated my cable bill so I eliminated most of it. Good bye Cablevision. Can't get Satellite in our condo complex so I opted for streaming options via Netflix and others along with Blu Ray movies and the cheapest family plan the cable company offers.

I can't wait to get this TV up on the wall; especially with all the feedback I read from the lot of you guys on this thread. I'm not upgrading my AVR yet so I'll have one optical out coming from the new TV to the old receiver I have now until I can get the glory that is full pass-through.

I'm sure I'll have pics and what not at some point next week of the set up and any issues or praise.

Hope the lot of you have an awesome week.
post #1686 of 2082
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Originally Posted by redleaves View Post

Been lurking for a while and following this thread in particular since some time in December. Waiting to pull the trigger on this TV and finally did today. Delivery will be Thursday next week at which point I'll be foregoing sleep for testing and set up.

And watching of course. I hated my cable bill so I eliminated most of it. Good bye Cablevision. Can't get Satellite in our condo complex so I opted for streaming options via Netflix and others along with Blu Ray movies and the cheapest family plan the cable company offers.

I can't wait to get this TV up on the wall; especially with all the feedback I read from the lot of you guys on this thread. I'm not upgrading my AVR yet so I'll have one optical out coming from the new TV to the old receiver I have now until I can get the glory that is full pass-through.

I'm sure I'll have pics and what not at some point next week of the set up and any issues or praise.

Hope the lot of you have an awesome week.

Congratulations! We have the most basic of cable also and we get a lot of free hd channels now that we have this tv with the built-in tuner. You will be able to do everything right from the tv with netflix which I have come to really enjoy. One thing to note is that you have to be watching a netflix program to access the menu to make picture adjustments for the netflix picture,you can't do it while you are on the netflix menu.
post #1687 of 2082
I got the TV in early January and started putting hours on it (by watching TV). Looked amazing. After about 2 weeks I noticed a bright red flashing pixel in the center lower third of the screen. It wasn't always stuck on, or always off (dead) -- it would just stay on but flash frequently and irritatingly. For the first few days after that it was all I could see.

I called LG support and they had a local service guy come out to confirm. They ordered a new panel. In the intervening time I was surprised to find that it was possible to ignore the red pixel nearly all of the time. I imagine it would have been worse if it were dead-center, but it was on the bottom third of the screen. However, the panel had been ordered so I went through with it.

The new panel came in about a week later. They just stopped by today to replace it.

Someone on this forum mentioned dust getting in during a panel replacement -- thanks for that tip! We took a look after the panel was replaced but before the back was put on, and found a bunch of large dust motes in there. I had the guys open it back up and we wiped the thing down. Second try was the charm. There is still one smudged spot but I can't see it from more than 6" away -- I'll take that.

Now it looks great. I noticed that my old panel was made in 07/2010 and the new one in 10/2010, for what that's worth.

Takeaways:
1. Flashing pixels are annoying, but you can learn to ignore them.
2. That said, LG will do a full panel replacement if you call in.
3. Make sure to watch out for dust when they replace the panel.

On the whole, I was impressed with LG's no-questions-asked fix-it response. And of course the TV still looks awesome. Since only the panel was replaced, all the settings are preserved (including the now-incorrect hours of usage).
post #1688 of 2082
Hello everyone, I recently purchased an LG 55LX6500 LED LCD and was very dissatisfied with it. Let me tell you the local dimming thing is horrible, ruining in my opinion any dark scenes with the flashlight effect that occurs when one or two segments light up to illuminate objects in an otherwise dark scene. When watching the LG screensaver (when the LG symbol moves around) I felt like I was watching some low tech projector or something while the segments lit up following the symbol. I couldn't believe it! The 3D was horrible with tons of crosstalk and ghosting. The only thing good I can say about it was it's color and brightness as long as it were in 2D and there were no dark scenes. I returned it and bought a 60PX950. MAN WHAT A DIFFERENCE! I am 100% satisfied with this set, to me the 3D is a pleasure to watch now, color is spectacular, and blacks are plenty black for me. I really don't know what people are complaining about with brightness or "pop", it looks great to me if set properly. This coming from someone who just switched from a brand new LED LCD. If it has ever crossed your mind that you might have been more satisfied with an LED tv, you made the right choice. Really glad I went Plasma!
post #1689 of 2082
Hi guys - I've noticed there are not many pics here of our PX950 set-ups, so I promise I'll post a few of mine in the next week or so.

I have just moved into a new home and my friendly A/V installers are in the process of sorting out my two rooms - one is a family area with our "old" 720p Panny 42" plasma and the other (woohoo!) is a dedicated theatre room with 7.1 channel audio and the LG 60PX950 as the centre piece.

To say I am excited would be somewhat of an understatement.

As for my 60PX950, I'm now over 100 hours of break in (using the EA DVD) and nearing calibration time. I freaked out the other night when playing Kung Fu Panda because at one point the picture went completely haywire, but I figured out that this was simply due to my kids' grubby fingerprints on the disc! A quick wipe and all was rectified.

Cheers

Mark
post #1690 of 2082
I have been watching the net and have just noticed that the price of LG's AG-S100 and The AG-S110 have been dropping.
The LG AGS110 3D active shutter glasses for LG 3D HDTVs On Amazon List Price: $129.98
New Current Price: $76.93 + Shipping
You Save: $53.05 (41%)
In Stock. Link http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00...A1J7WSBJHTGUFA
Ships from and sold by Electronics Expo.
Also At Buy.com : http://www.buy.com/prod/lg-ag-s110-3...219504648.html
So keep your eyes open and you may be able to get them for under $70.00 real soon.
Note ! Has anyone found any difference in the AG S-110 over the AG S-100.
The AG S-110 seem to always be a little cheaper for some reason.

UPDATE !
I just got my LG AG S-110 3D Glasses, and as far as I can see there is no difference between the S-100 and the S-110's.
post #1691 of 2082
I finally received my 3d glasses (AG-S110) and watched the Imax under the sea last night, it was pretty cool. I tried the 2d to 3d conversion watching a hockey game, but it didn't do anything for me. Has anyone found the 2d to 3d conversion to work good ? Thanks.
post #1692 of 2082
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Originally Posted by cubsoxbullbears View Post
I finally received my 3d glasses (AG-S110) and watched the Imax under the sea last night, it was pretty cool. I tried the 2d to 3d conversion watching a hockey game, but it didn't do anything for me. Has anyone found the 2d to 3d conversion to work good ? Thanks.
2d to 3d barely works. It is better not to use it, but it is a nice gimmick feature.

I would love to know any differences between the AG-S100 and S110. So far the only one I know is a better battery.
post #1693 of 2082
I have a love/hate relationship with this TV.

The colors are outstanding, and the overall picture is better than anything I've seen, especially for the price. The black levels however, go from good, to not so good very quickly depending on the scene, especially with black barred material that I view from my PC. The DSE gets on my nerves sometimes too.

I kind of wanted to get a killer deal and a tv I wouldn't need to upgrade for years. I'm looking to see if this years models are worth upgrading to. If not, i'd totally be satisfied with this tv, but not amazed by it. A pure black level along with the great picture of this set would have been exceptional. Guess I may have to pay the premium after all, or wait another year or so.
post #1694 of 2082
CNET UPDATE February 16, 2011
Updated: 3D TV FAQ
David Katzmaier
Senior editor, CNET.com
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LINK: http://nl.com.com/view_online_newsle...p?list_id=e702

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February 16, 2011

"It's been almost a year since the first of the "new" 3D TVs hit the market, enabling their owners to watch 3D Blu-ray movies and 3D television programming as well as play 3D games. The technology behind these televisions is still relatively new, however, and still inspires plenty of questions.
In this newly updated FAQ I'll attempt to answer those questions as well as possible, incorporating my first-hand knowledge from reviewing numerous 2010 3D TVs, conversations I've had with industry experts, and reactions from readers."

"Among the six we chose, the three plasmas (listed first) won the 3D battle with the three LCDs. Their 3D presentations evinced the least "crosstalk": the ghostly doubled images around 3D objects onscreen. Between the plasmas we noticed a couple of color-related issues on the Panasonic that we didn't see on the Samsung PNC8000 or the LG PX950 (the latter has THX 3D certification), but they're nitpicks and balanced by the Panasonic's superior black levels, making it the best TV overall when we consider 2D performance."....Click On The Link Above To Read More !

The only Question I have, is it really worth $600.00 for the better black levels ?
Especially after this statement made by David : "Between the plasmas we noticed a couple of color-related issues on the Panasonic that we didn't see on the Samsung PNC8000 or the LG PX950"
Now the big question: Is it worth sacrificing the True To Life color picture that you can only get on the LG for the better black levels that you can only get on the Panasonic ?

What do you think ?

Today's Price On Amazon 02/17/11
The Panasonic VIERA TC-P50VT25 50-inch 1080p 3D Plasma HDTV, Buy new Amazon: $1,949.00
The LG INFINIA 50 PX950 50-inch 1080p 3D Plasma HDTV, Buy new Amazon: $1,349.55
Note ! Both had free shipping.
post #1695 of 2082
The picture quality is getting better by the day. This is the 4th day for mine and I have Lubes settings using Direct TV HD DVR and the picture is just "awesome" on HD channels. Haven't watched 3D yet so I can't comment on that. SD picture doesn't seem quite as good as the Hitachi 55HDS69 I am replacing. Luckily Direct TV has a lot of HD channels. So far blacks are BLACK. I have seen no line bleed up to this point. There's some,not bad though DSE. I don't think I have ever seen a plasma that didn't have some.

Overall I would have to say that this TV is the best bang for the buck going right now. I tried a Sammy C550 before this LG and I can say without question that this LG is the better plasma in my mind. I just wish that Conns had the 60 inch instead of this 50. 50 inch is going to work fine but 60 would be nice.

I will have this set calibrated by a pro. as soon as possible. Any recommendations on a good calibrator in the OKC. OK area?
post #1696 of 2082
Just thought I would give you all an update about my 60px950. Today when I returned from work I had a voice message from my selling dealer. Salesman said that I was officially receiving the 60pz950 as a direct swap out for my defective unit!! Gave me a confirmation number from the local LG rep. I will finally have to return the set(that I've been living with since mid October). The pz950 will be shipping to dealers in mid April(here in Canada) Interestingly, however is the information regarding the pz550 series...they will be available for purchase late next week. Now I just have to hope that LG has done something to fix the DSE on the these new sets.
post #1697 of 2082
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Originally Posted by dt72 View Post

Just thought I would give you all an update about my 60px950. Today when I returned from work I had a voice message from my selling dealer. Salesman said that I was officially receiving the 60pz950 as a direct swap out for my defective unit!! Gave me a confirmation number from the local LG rep. I will finally have to return the set(that I've been living with since mid October). The pz950 will be shipping to dealers in mid April(here in Canada) Interestingly, however is the information regarding the pz550 series...they will be available for purchase late next week. Now I just have to hope that LG has done something to fix the DSE on the these new sets.

dt72 -

My LG 60px950's picture died on me last week due to a circuit error. They've been pretty quick to tell me that they do not have replacement parts for this television, are no longer making the television, and will be issuing me a refund for my tv. Obviously, I don't want a refund, and I'd prefer to have them swap out of the px model for the pz model. How hard was it for you to get them to agree to this? They haven't budged at all for me. Thanks!
post #1698 of 2082
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Originally Posted by trojan09 View Post

dt72 -

My LG 60px950's picture died on me last week due to a circuit error. They've been pretty quick to tell me that they do not have replacement parts for this television, are no longer making the television, and will be issuing me a refund for my tv. Obviously, I don't want a refund, and I'd prefer to have them swap out of the px model for the pz model. How hard was it for you to get them to agree to this? They haven't budged at all for me. Thanks!

The LG 60PZ950 Is Now Available for pre-order,and man it's not cheap !
It is in stock at ONECALL.com for $2,699.99 + Free Shipping.
The LG 50PZ950 is $1,899.99 + Free Shipping
THE 60" http://www.onecall.com/product/LG/In...-TV/_/R-109000
THE 50" http://www.onecall.com/product/LG/In...-TV/_/R-109008
post #1699 of 2082
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Originally Posted by trojan09 View Post

dt72 -

My LG 60px950's picture died on me last week due to a circuit error. They've been pretty quick to tell me that they do not have replacement parts for this television, are no longer making the television, and will be issuing me a refund for my tv. Obviously, I don't want a refund, and I'd prefer to have them swap out of the px model for the pz model. How hard was it for you to get them to agree to this? They haven't budged at all for me. Thanks!

I bought my first 60PX950 online so when I had to deal with lg I had no dealer to argue for me in the case. LG would not budge from buying it back. The process involves them sending a mover to get the tv then shipping it to the refurb center and after receiving it they issue the check the following friday. It was sixteen days from tv pick-up to reciving the check. Then I did what turned out to be really stupid,I ordered another 60PX950. Now my second tv has developed problems and I will have to start this whole process over again.
post #1700 of 2082
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Originally Posted by Neal Farley View Post

The LG 60PZ950 Is Now Available,and man it's not cheap !
It is in stock at ONECALL.com for $2,699.99 + Free Shipping.
The LG 50PZ950 is $1,899.99 + Free Shipping
THE 60" http://www.onecall.com/product/LG/In...-TV/_/R-109000
THE 50" http://www.onecall.com/product/LG/In...-TV/_/R-109008

I hope the price increase is due to them actually fixing the defects from the px series and having better quality control in order to produce a reliable tv.
post #1701 of 2082
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I hope the price increase is due to them actually fixing the defects from the px series and having better quality control in order to produce a reliable tv.

That was the retail price the 60px950 was going for as well.
post #1702 of 2082
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Originally Posted by trojan09 View Post

dt72 -

My LG 60px950's picture died on me last week due to a circuit error. They've been pretty quick to tell me that they do not have replacement parts for this television, are no longer making the television, and will be issuing me a refund for my tv. Obviously, I don't want a refund, and I'd prefer to have them swap out of the px model for the pz model. How hard was it for you to get them to agree to this? They haven't budged at all for me. Thanks!

My situation was a little different. I noticed my defect within the first 5 days of ownership. When I called the dealer they informed me that they do not offer refunds only exchanges. Since the px was impossible to get, I waited and waited and...waited. In the meantime, I had been in contact with LG who were in agreement that I should receive a replacement and not a repair since this was the selling dealers policy. Eventually LG got back to me telling me that the PX was a "bastard child" and it had been discontinued. They offered a repair through them if I didn't want to wait for a replacement to be found. I declined this option. Told me to work it out between the local LG rep, the selling dealer and myself. Anyway this went on for months. Finally got the call a few days ago that I would get the PZ replacement. It sounds like a big headache but it was pretty painless for me. I just said "no" to every solution they came up with short of the PZ. I give my selling dealer most of the credit for making sure I was satisfied. They pushed the local rep to take care of me as a customer of LG.
post #1703 of 2082
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Originally Posted by bhazard View Post

That was the retail price the 60px950 was going for as well.

Good point !
I think the big issue here is not so much the cost, but to fix all these problems that face not just LG but all the manufactures of these new TV's.
Even if it cost a little more it would be worth it, but only if they improve the black levels,eliminate all the DSE problems,No more crosstalk issues ,No more flickering, No line bleeding, and No funny lines running down the sides of the picture.
If they can do all of this, then it would be a big step in the right direction for sure.
The price will come down some once its out to the public for awhile,and the reviews come out.
A price drop will also be determined by just how many of these problems have been fixed, and how well this TV can compete against their # 1 competition Panasonic and the others..
The one thing that gives LG the edge is it's great true to life 2D picture.
If they can fix all these problems, I don't think the current competition could touch them.
post #1704 of 2082
^Agreed
post #1705 of 2082
Onecall is just doing a preorder. They won't be on sale until April.
post #1706 of 2082
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Buying the Set by itself is more expensive than buying the package!
post #1707 of 2082
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LG Electronics
50" Plasma 3D Package
while quantities last!
$3,546.00 for $1,799.00 Dream Team. With this Experience 3D TV, you'll see colours and contrast like never before, thanks to the THX certified picture. Unlock the unlimited possibilities of NetCast, enjoy the freedom of Wireless 1080p and marvel in plasma display design. We've combined this TV with a feature-packed LG Blu-ray player and a pair of 3D glasses, to make your entertainment dreams come true! Package includes 50-inch 3D Plasma TV, 3D Blu-ray Player and one pair of 3D glasses, as shown.
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Buying the Set by itself is more expensive than buying the package!

It's not a bad price !
In the past You could find it cheaper, but now the PX950's are getting harder to find,and so are the great deals.
If you snooze you could lose out on getting one.
Or you could wait until April for the new LG 50PZ950.
My LG 50 PX950 cost me $1,199.00
My LG BX580 3D Blu-ray player cost me $169.00
My LG AG-S100 3D glasses cost me $79.00
Total cost for all 3 pieces was only $1,447.00
I got all three items with free shipping and no tax.
Many people have gotten even better deals then this !
post #1708 of 2082
Got my px950 Isf calibartion today my guy spent 5hr getting all inputs spot on. If you can afford to spend some extra money it is well worth it. One note if you get a Isf calibartion my guy said hdmi input 1 was so much more harder to set then 2-3 he wasn't exactly sure why so If you get a calibartion and you only use 2 inputs go with 2-3. I can post my setting if anyone would like to compare but this has been calibrated for my px950 any most likely will not transfer over to another px950 with the same results.
post #1709 of 2082
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Originally Posted by Zombie Jesus View Post

Got my px950 Isf calibartion today my guy spent 5hr getting all inputs spot on. If you can afford to spend some extra money it is well worth it. One note if you get a Isf calibartion my guy said hdmi input 1 was so much more harder to set then 2-3 he wasn't exactly sure why so If you get a calibartion and you only use 2 inputs go with 2-3. I can post my setting if anyone would like to compare but this has been calibrated for my px950 any most likely will not transfer over to another px950 with the same results.

It would be great if you could. There may be some people that have sets that can get dialed in very similar with your settings.

Every set is different, so the only way to get an exact calibration is to get one done for yourself, but for others who can't afford the $300+, or just wish to get a better picture than what they have, these settings are a blessing. The more the merrier.

I have posted my settings, and while it may look like crap for some people, for others it is almost perfect for them.
post #1710 of 2082
I still have to wait a few weeks and a few more hrs. on the panel till I can get my done. I have bhazards & Lubes setting in. Both setting look pretty good to my untrained eye. Lubes settings fit mine a little better though,I think. I also tried the cnet setting 1st and they don't look nearly as good as the others IMO. I also have some lower settings in that I run to break in a little. But when I want to watch a movie or game I switch to the calibrated settings. So I guess I am semi breaking mt set in. I am looking forward to getting mine calibrated so I can set it and forget it. BTW,I tried one of the calibrated settings posted here on comp.input and they don't look anything like the HDMI connections. Huge difference and the HDMI is the clear winner. I always thought the comp. connect was supposed to be as good as HDMI just without carrying the audio. Not on this TV.

BTW,I will post mine when I get it done. Like Bhazard , the more the merrier.
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