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post #31 of 588
Watched the pilot and the season finale of season 1 last night. It's amazing how Clark, Chloe, Lex, and Lana evolved and grew throughout the series. Seeing how young they were, how innocent they were was like wow. Everything to Smallville high, the torch, wall of weird, the talon. Crazy. The show has come a long way.
post #32 of 588
I posted early this morning 4am CT, and tried to mark it as spoiler material, using my Ipod Touch. Coming back here this morning on a PC, I find that my post is gone (was deleted?), and that all the stuff marked with spoiler tags that are hidden from view, just show up plain as day on my Ipod Touch using the AVSFORUM app.

How do you mark anything as spoiler material on a regular PC? And how would you avoid seeing spoilers using the app, or mark items using the app for Iphone/Ipod?
post #33 of 588
Looking forward to this, but already sad it is ending.
post #34 of 588
Well any question I had about whether Clark is going to yank out that Kryptonite and fly off has been answered. Won't spoil it here, but the U-Verse channel guide summary of the episode very clearly says what happens. Viewers be aware. /sigh
post #35 of 588
Yeah, that's probably the most annoying kind of spoiler... when the EPG description OR the "next week" advert gives away some key plot point.

It's one thing when a random fan spoils something... but when the network spoils itself!
post #36 of 588
The D* episode guide spoiled it as well. =\\

LA Times has an article with Tom Welling today...maybe spoilery? I don't think it is, but I'm putting that warning out these just in case.

Edit: I see dad already posted it in the HOTP thread.
post #37 of 588
Fantastic episode tonight. Lois knowing that Clark is the Blur should be interesting. Loved that they showed Supes suit. Probably the last episode when he actually wears it.
post #38 of 588
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I was distracted for most of the ep, but liked what I saw. Looks like Pa exists in the nexus or a "flash-side" . Also didn't expect to see LL; at least I think that was him..
post #39 of 588
In the Supernatural thread I was noting how similar their storylines were to Smallville ones...

and tonight we get the black smoke effect from Supernatural!

So this season, Smallville might be borrowing from Supernatural plots

It was a weird season opener because there really wasn't a bad guy that was doing something. The Oliver story was left quite ambiguous... and the Faux Lex story was kind of anti-climactic.

I guess they still want to leave the door open for Rosenbaum in case they can talk him into a reappearance at some point.
post #40 of 588
So the smoke thing was Darkseid right?

I had a crapload of issues watching it on D*. Picture kept breaking up. Audio was out of sync in spots. Pixelization in a few spots as well...bleh. I watched local news on the CW earlier today and it had none of that so I don't know wtf happened.

Good premiere. They certainly left themselves open for different plot points.

And is it just me or did the dude torturing Oliver look/sound like the ex-military guy who helped Lana however many seasons ago?
post #41 of 588
So what happened? We were all so happy to see Lois rescuing Clark in the first few moments after his plummet to earth that we forgot about all the plot non-sequitors?
1) Clark had blue kryptonite in him as he fell off a skyscraper. It should have been the same effect as when Lionel hit the pavement a few seasons ago.
2) The book of rao (still active) had just sent all the Kandorians and Zod to a better place. Was it not STILL active when Lois pulled the dagger out of him? When Clark was no longer human by nature but fully Kryptonian, shouldn't he have been taken up by rapture with the rest of his race? By my calculations, Jon Jonz would have had to remove the book of rao before Clark removed the dagger himself before he hit the ground in order for him to stay on the earth and survive the fall.

Besides ignoring (insulting?) diehard fans and not giving answers to last season's finale's cliff hanger of how was he going to save himself, Welling's acting was a bit suspect. His heart of pride tirade with Jor-El in the fortress didn't seem genuine - I was expecting some sort of Bizarro or phantom corruption of Clark to reveal itself - perhaps taken on while he was weakened in his nexus/after life. The director really needed to re-shoot that one scene. On the other hand, the scene with Jonathan Kent was just so wonderful to watch, like they really missed each other after all these years.
post #42 of 588
Great premiere. Who or what was that thing with the black smoke at the end?

We still don't know who the knitting woman is. We saw her at the end of the last season.
post #43 of 588
And who left 'the suit' in the gift wrapped box in the loft? Martha? It seemed weird neither Clark or Lois looked surprised when opening the box.

Duane
post #44 of 588
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Great premiere. Who or what was that thing with the black smoke at the end?

We still don't know who the knitting woman is. We saw her at the end of the last season.

Darkseid and Granny Goodness...I think.
post #45 of 588
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And who left 'the suit' in the gift wrapped box in the loft? Martha? It seemed weird neither Clark or Lois looked surprised when opening the box.

Duane

Martha made the suit with all of the resources available to her as a US Senator and Red Queen. She left it for Clark with a note at the beginning of last season's finale.

So Clark saw it already and wasn't surprised. Lois has seen the S before in black but also knew the Blur before when he was The Red Blue Blur. So I don't think the new suit would have surprised her that much.

The question I have about the suit is whether or not Jor-El has it locked up from Clark in ice/crystal, or put it up as a nice display for Clark whenever he wants to put it on.
post #46 of 588
I've become increasingly annoyed with the Jor-El fortress being "the boss" of things... That's something Clark really has to put a stop to. Even when Clark is wrong, he doesn't need a computer fortress controlling things. The fortress just yanked him from his barn without warning, scolded him, and then did the equivalent of pitching a fit and going silent!

Clark still has some growing up to do, obviously, but that fortress really isn't helping.

Meanwhile...

yeah, it was underwhelming how he survived not being splattered into millions of pieces while without his powers. Lois shouldn't have had to pull the dagger out, because there should not have been enough of Clark left to pull anything from at that point.

And nobody was shown to have shut off the magic teleport Rao thing... so that was another gaping plothole.

It would have been so easy to have any one of the "Justice League" friends stop by and turn that thing off... then have someone save Clark if he wasn't conscious to do it himself... and that would have tied up things much nicer.

There's also no logical reason for Lois to pretend she doesn't know anything at this point... and for Clark to even buy that for a second makes no sense either.

Also, I guess that's all we'll be seeing of Chloe for a while... was surprised they got her out of the way so early in the season even though I knew it was coming.

Only a guess, but it would seem that it was probably Checkmate that had Oliver.
post #47 of 588
I've only been watching Smallville sporadically over the last few years ('cause it's mostly sucked), but am hoping to follow it more regularly in this final season. Not a bad season opener, and the upcoming Darkseid arc intrigues me. And I want to see Clark wear the Superman suit at some point. My biggest problem with the episode was the huge plot cheat: fake Lex tells Clark that he can't both save Lois and stop the Daily Planet globe from crushing everyone in the street... and then Clark does exactly that.
post #48 of 588
How should Lex know what his limits are?

Isn't that what villains always do? Underestimate the hero...
post #49 of 588
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yeah, it was underwhelming how he survived not being splattered into millions of pieces while without his powers. Lois shouldn't have had to pull the dagger out, because there should not have been enough of Clark left to pull anything from at that point.

And nobody was shown to have shut off the magic teleport Rao thing... so that was another gaping plothole.

Does the blue kryptonite make you completely human instantaneously? I dunno. I've seen them play loose with that sort of stuff before with the green/red/black/whatever kryptonite so that didn't bother me. He could have had some left over strength and survived the fall.

On the other hand, the Rao thing is a huge plot hole. Unless it has like a 5-meter radius or something.
post #50 of 588
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Martha made the suit with all of the resources available to her as a US Senator and Red Queen. She left it for Clark with a note at the beginning of last season's finale.

So Clark saw it already and wasn't surprised. Lois has seen the S before in black but also knew the Blur before when he was The Red Blue Blur. So I don't think the new suit would have surprised her that much.

The question I have about the suit is whether or not Jor-El has it locked up from Clark in ice/crystal, or put it up as a nice display for Clark whenever he wants to put it on.

Thanks, I guess I should have fired up the DVR and rewatched last year's season finale. After four months, a lot of the details were gone from my memory.

Duane
post #51 of 588
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Does the blue kryptonite make you completely human instantaneously? I dunno. I've seen them play loose with that sort of stuff before with the green/red/black/whatever kryptonite so that didn't bother me. He could have had some left over strength and survived the fall.

This one I have to grant you is possible... they play fast and loose with such things, so I expect that would be their explanation... that he had enough power left to not die instantly or explode upon impact.

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On the other hand, the Rao thing is a huge plot hole. Unless it has like a 5-meter radius or something.

I thought of that... except then that puts the plothole in last season's finale instead! Because IF it only worked on the immediate perimeter, then someone other than Clark could have turned it on (like John Jones) and Clark could have hid.. but they were very clear that it would suck up any Kryptonian and strongly implied that it didn't matter where you were at the time.
post #52 of 588
Is there somewhere I can read a summary of what has happened on the show for the past few seasons? I stopped watching when Lex was killed because I couldn't stand the show anymore and killing off Superman's biggest villain before he becomes Superman was just the last straw. I don't even remember how many seasons ago that happened. I always said that I would come back for the final season to see if they finally make Clark grow up but, I'm just wandering what I've missed. Anything really big you need to know going into this season or will I be able to get caught up and fill most blanks after a few episodes? Some mention "fake Lex" a few post up so, is Lex not really dead?
post #53 of 588
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Is there somewhere I can read a summary of what has happened on the show for the past few seasons? I stopped watching when Lex was killed because I couldn't stand the show anymore and killing off Superman's biggest villain before he becomes Superman was just the last straw. I don't even remember how many seasons ago that happened. I always said that I would come back for the final season to see if they finally make Clark grow up but, I'm just wandering what I've missed. Anything really big you need to know going into this season or will I be able to get caught up and fill most blanks after a few episodes? Some mention "fake Lex" a few post up so, is Lex not really dead?

First off, with a name like rolltide1017, after yesterday, I have say "I hate you" but to answer your question, I like www.kryptonsite.com for lots of Smallville info, including an "Episodes" section with info on all previous episodes and season. The "fake Lex" referred to above was referring to several clones of Lex in this weeks episode (not played by Rosenbaum.) I think though, that it's safe to say that Lex is not dead, as you said yourself, he's Superman's biggest villian, and Dr. Fate told Clark last season that Lex would end up as his "ultimate enemy." Whether Rosenbaum will decide to come back at some point this season is anyone's guess though.
post #54 of 588
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Whether Rosenbaum will decide to come back at some point this season is anyone's guess though.

Boy, I hope so!. Prior to the more recent seasons with the accent on the DC Universe, his portrayal is what made the show, IMHO. It has sounded like there is some bad blood between Rosenbaum and the show, to the point where he has said "No way!" to coming back. But I do hope that changes.
post #55 of 588
Never a good sign when they go out and find the ugliest bald guy possible to replace you.
post #56 of 588
I don't blame actors for wanting to move on... and I know there's lots of good reason for bad blood sometimes... but I can't recall seeing Rosenbaum in anything since he left Smallville.

For as bashed as Kreuk was in this forum at times, I've seen her in at least one movie and another TV show for guest appearances since she left Smallville... so if she can find work, I'm curious why Rosenbaum seems to have fallen off the map.
post #57 of 588
Thread Starter 
I never for one minute thought LL was dead.
post #58 of 588
Neither did I... It doesn't make any sense for LL to be gone before Clark even dons the suit...

If he was truly paranoid about his own security, he would have informed/passed on information to his own clones about his demise, so that they (he) wouln't come after the original, anyway....

Rosenbaum seems like a gifted, hardworking actor. Not sure how any of them, especially Rosenbaum, can deliver such lines with such seriousness without cracking up about the absurdity of some of the plotlines....

I'm surprised he isn't making his own films if his agent isn't able to find him work...
post #59 of 588
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Rosenbaum seems like a gifted, hardworking actor. Not sure how any of them, especially Rosenbaum, can deliver such lines with such seriousness without cracking up about the absurdity of some of the plotlines....

I'm surprised he isn't making his own films if his agent isn't able to find him work...

Last I heard, he was working on producing a pilot for a half-hour series. Haven't heard if it's reached any fruition. Still, he'd only have to do a few days work...IF he wanted to. So far, it seems that he doesn't. Our loss.
post #60 of 588
Probably worth noting...

In the modern DC universe... they actually did kill Lex Luthor (obliterated him actually) and brought him back as his "son"... who was then revealed to be a younger clone of him.

Been a while, so I don't know if that is still in-continuity OR if they even talk about it anymore... but it was a way of having-and-eating-the-cake to kill and bring back a character in a semi-surprise way.

I hope Rosenbaum reprises his role... but I would have been 100% ok to see the old-Lex clone for a few episodes plotting some crazy stuff only to be foiled not by Clark but by the real Lex in a return by Rosenbaum.
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