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FYI (I just posted this on Blu-ray.com as well)...

iTunes has the season premiere episode of each of Smallville's 10 seasons available in HD or SD for free!

Don't know how long this limited offer will last... I wish they had also included the season finales since in many cases the premiere is the 2nd part of a cliffhanger from the previous season..

But still... 10 HD season premiere episodes of Smallville in HD is too good to pass up... so I have them queued right now!
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Tonight is the series finale of Smallville. I hope the episode doesn't disappoint.
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TV Notes
'Smallville' Showrunners Brian Peterson & Kelly Souders Weigh In on the Series Finale
By Laura Prudom, AOL.com's 'TV Squad' - May 13th, 2011

It's the end of an era. A decade-long journey reaches its conclusion tonight, and as one door closes on Clark Kent, farm boy, high schooler, "The Blur," another opens to reveal a much larger destiny: The birth of Superman.

To say that expectations are high would be an understatement, and executive producers Brian Peterson and Kelly Souders seem well aware that they have a lot of fans to please with the 'Smallville' series finale.

While it's impossible to satisfy everyone, it's clear that no one involved in the creative process of producing 'Smallville' takes this ending lightly, and as emotional as tonight's episode may be, I believe it will also be a fitting climax for one of TV's most enduring genre shows.

AOL TV caught up with Souders and Peterson this week to discuss the challenges of writing such an eagerly anticipated finale, and what fans can expect from tonight's episode. Because I know that some fans are trying to avoid spoilers and others are desperate for clues, I've split the interview into two parts: spoiler-free at the top, and spoilers at the bottom -- so feel free to join us after the jump to preview the finale!

Spoiler-Free

What are your plans for Friday night? Are you doing anything special to mark the occasion?
Kelly Souders:
Probably a pretty mellow evening. I think we're just going to watch it together. I think we are kind of partied out -- kind of a mellow night because we know it's going to be kind of an emotional one too.

How did you decide on the final scene of the series? Did you always know what you wanted to end on?
Brian Peterson:
We pretty much knew a handful of shots that we wanted in this finale; it was just a matter of which one to end on. Pretty quickly into breaking [the story], we decided we wanted to end the way we did.

At the end of the day, do you feel like you made the finale you wanted to make?
KS:
Yeah, I'd say so. I think, considering you're putting on such a massive production with a TV schedule -- which is not exactly like you have months to shoot it -- we're really happy with how it turned out. In fact, everybody on the crew and cast, and all of the effects houses we work with, all of our editors, everybody gave 150 percent, and I'd say it surpassed our expectations.

Now for the million dollar question: After all these years, what does 'Smallville' mean to you personally?
BP:
[pauses] That's a really good question. I think what we've been saying, which is very true, is [that it embodies] the ability to believe in the best in people. We've been writing for years about this amazing character that always believes in people, a character we can believe in, and so I think that, to me, is personally what 'Smallville' means.
KS: I think the same thing. I think that we didn't really come to the show thinking that was going to happen, you know, we were just so excited to be here. I think, over the course of the 10 years, we realized how lucky we are to have spent a decade writing about the world's greatest hero.

'Smallville' has always been great about including references to the Superman legacy as Easter eggs for the fans: Did you specifically draw from any of the movies, shows or comics that came before 'Smallville' for the finale?
BP:
Throughout the series, we really tried to pay homage to a lot of the visuals, and a lot of the ideas, and all of the materials whether it's a movie or a comic book, but we do definitely have a few things that go back to those in the finale.

When you knew that Michael Rosenbaum would be returning as Lex, but that his availability would be limited due to his commitment to his other show [the sadly cancelled 'Breaking In'], how did you go about deciding which scenes to include and which to cut? You must've had so much you wanted to tie up and address after all his time away.
KS:
Honestly, he had been so integral to the show, and the scenes fell into place very quickly and very organically. It really only took a couple of hours, maybe, to figure out how it would work with what we already had planned.

There's a lot of expectation about Clark finally fulfilling his destiny and what that might look like. Can you talk about the process of writing this particular episode and the beats that you were determined to hit? Did it require a lot of rewrites or was it perfectly formed in your minds already?
BP:
Actually no, of all the scripts, other than some of the typical budget issues, this one really stayed pretty much intact from the beginning. I think we knew for so long how we wanted some of those final moments to play out, and who we wanted them to play out with, and it very much fell into place quickly.

Since you were on set for portions of the finale, I wondered if you could talk a little about Tom Welling's performance in the final episode, and the energy or charisma that he brought?
KS:
Well, all we can say is he is fantastic! I mean, for somebody who has been working pretty much every day for 10 years, long hours, and needing to have the energy of a leader on set, I would imagine he would be collapsing at that point, but instead, he kind of brought it with him to the show. He is phenomenal.

What sort of legacy do you think -- or hope -- 'Smallville' will leave behind?
KS:
Obviously, we hope people will remember it and watch it over and over again, and maybe people grow up and share it with their kids or friends. Hopefully, it is certainly a timeless show; there's a reason why Superman has been around for many, many decades, and I certainly hope 'Smallville' is as well.

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Can you reveal anything new about Chloe's involvement in the finale and what her role is?
BP:
Well, she plays a very important part in the show because we give her one of the biggest moments, I think, in the show, and she has a very quintessential "Chloe moment" of being the ultimate sidekick and saving Clark.

Can you elaborate on the "special thing" that she got that no one else got, as you described it to reporters earlier. Is that related to what you just said?
KS:
It's just a big moment, you know, sort of a big Superman moment, and it was just something that we kind of wanted. She has been so integral in the show, but her future, obviously, no one quite knows in the same way that people know what eventually happens to Clark Kent, and Lois Lane, and Green Arrow [from the comics canon], so we wanted to be sure that her place in our mythology was solidified.

We know that Martha and Jonathan will be back, and when I last spoke to you, Kelly, you mentioned how important it was for you guys to pay off that part of Clark's history, but can you tell us anything else about their involvement, or whether we'll see them together?
BP:
You see them together briefly in a couple moments of the show, yeah. I don't want to give it away!

What's ahead for the Daily Planet staff: Will there be a mention of the original, deceased Jimmy, and will the way be paved for a new one?
KS:
Again, we don't want to give much away, but I think you will see the essence of the Daily Planet that everybody knows and loves. There is a long history of Superman. There are just some fun moments that were important for us to try and crowbar in.


The 'Smallville' two-hour series finale airs tonight, Fri., May 13 at 8PM ET on The CW.

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I can't wait for the finale ! Hope it doesn't suck.
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I suspect the closing scene will have Clark (finally) fly-off, but sans the suit...
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I want to see Louis in a matching suit.
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I suspect the closing scene will have Clark (finally) fly-off, but sans the suit...

I was kind of thinking that with Lex apparently back, Clark would don the suit along the way. Kind of the anti-thesis to Lex for everyone to finally look up to, believe it, etc... If they go that route, it's a lot to cram into one episode since he still can't freakin fly
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I want to see Louis in a matching suit.

Who is Louis?

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That was an amazing series finale. The ending was perfect including the music.
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That was an amazing series finale. The ending was perfect including the music.

Yup, Tom Welling in CGI Supes suit!!!

10 yrs of my f$&king life, and they couldn't even use a real suit...

Oh well, it was good even without the real suit...
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Yup, Tom Welling in CGI Supes suit!!!

10 yrs of my f$&king life, and they couldn't even use a real suit...

Oh well, it was good even without the real suit...

As Welling said in some interview, he's put on thirty pounds over the ten year run of the show. How many seasons since we have even seen him without his shirt? I think some serious gym time should have been written into his contract for the final season.

I thought the finale was just okay. It had a lot of slow stretches. I think Nikita squeezed more action into its final hour for the season than Smallville managed in two hours.

And obviously they didn't find out about Rosenbaum's return until it was too late. Lex's story line was not very well integrated into the rest of the show. He should have either been either actively working with Darkseid or actively opposing him, not just sort of . . . there.

I'm glad they brought back Chloe and didn't kill her off. She has always been my favorite character.

I hope in the same way Buffy got a season 8 in the comics that Smallville gets a season 11 in the comics. We need a season where Clark is really Superman and the action sequences aren't limited by the CW's budget, but only by the imagination of the reader.

When I saw the pilot I never expected this little sci-fi show would survive for a full season let alone for ten. And on the whole, it has been a wonderful, enjoyable run.

Duane
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I want to see Louis in a matching suit.

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Bah! We've had a very uneventful spring weatherwise, but right at the church scene the SAT goes out for 5 minutes! Now I have to go and find a copy for the missing 5 minutes.

Other than that it went out quite well, no complaints.
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Am I the only one wondering why there was a Smallville comic that detailed the origin and secret identity of Superman?

The final bits (albeit CGI) were fine... but kind of a letdown for a battle with Darkseid.

Instead of a magic memory kiss from Superman (ala Superman II)... Tess gives a magic hug to Lex

Regarding Lex as president... was that scrolly thing saying he was elected in 2018? Or just that he was the president... because there shouldn't be an election in 2018 for president! The next election is 2012, then 2016, then 2020... so maybe I read the scrolly thing wrong.
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I thought the finale was just okay. It had a lot of slow stretches. I think Nikita squeezed more action into its final hour for the season than Smallville managed in two hours.

In all fairness nikita in its first and only season so far has managed to have more plot development then most of smallville's run combined. I have watched this show since the very begining and stuck with it through good seasons and bad seasons and I have enjoyed it but I will always look back and wish that he had not of learned how to fly in the last half hour of the series and we don't really get a good shot of him in the suit. I also don't like how they killed tess off without really interacting with anyone, or how I feel that there were better more meaningfull fights in season 1 then in season 10. I like how they wrapped everything up pretty well like with lex and the memories, and even the shot of the true jimmy but why did it take them 7 years to get married after the events of the episode?
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They never did explain why he couldn't fly for the entire length of the series until the final 10 minutes. Then he flew like he had flown his entire life.

I stopped watching this show about three seasons ago, and watched the first part of this season. Amazing how you could skip right to the end and still have everything make sense.
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Regarding Lex as president... was that scrolly thing saying he was elected in 2018? Or just that he was the president... because there shouldn't be an election in 2018 for president! The next election is 2012, then 2016, then 2020... so maybe I read the scrolly thing wrong.

Yeah, I caught that too, but I just wrote it off to being in the DC Universe.

I thought it was a fitting finale. I do have some of the same complaints others have mentioned:

It would have been nice to really see Welling in the suit, not just CG, but even so, the shot of him opening his shirt was just about as perfect an ending as possible.

The anti-climatic battle, just pushing Apokolips off into space, reminded me of the final battle with Doomsday in Season 8.

Oh and for Matt L, or anyone else who missed all or part of it and don't like watching tv on computers, the CW does have the finale scheduled to reair this coming Thursday night.
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Yup, Tom Welling in CGI Supes suit!!!

Maybe they were trying to be consistent with Green Lantern.
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I've been sort of WONDERING where the posts were for this season (bear in mind I haven't been very active on AVS forums for a while, anyway), then when I just checked, I realized my last subscribed thread was for SEASON 9! ACK!

I just LOVED the last 20 minutes -- from the point where Clark gets WALLOPED by DarkLionelSeid and then goes into "life-flash-before-my-eyes" WAKETHEHELLUP! mode! It actually made sense to me. He was finally being faced with the challenge that would define him. He would either defeat Darkseid, fulfill his destiny and become "Superman" in that barn, or he'd die, along with Planet Earth. Anyone who understands how "an instant can be an eternity" (and if you don't, turn one of your stove burners on HIGH, let it get as hot as possible, and see how long an "instant" is when you slam your hand down on it), can understand that in a sort of state of "suspended animation" while smashed against that back rail, Kal El was shown all he'd done and overcome, and just a few words from his true father were like a LIGHT SWITCH going off inside him -- an EPIPHANY, if you will -- that suddenly gave him both the strength and the insight to become Superman.

And when they started playing the "Superman" theme by Jerry Seigel, both then, when he left the Crystal Palace, and on the "Daily Planet's" rooftop at the end, I almost got goosebumps. There's just something ABOUT that music. It's SO inspiring I almost wonder if it HADN'T been attached to 4 (or is it 5?) "Superman" movies I think it would STILL have the same effect on people, as do many symphonies, etc. When Clark started tearing that shirt off to reveal his suit at the end, and I heard that theme start, I felt like I was right back in 1978 again, watching Christopher Reeves take flight for the first time.

I agree there was quite a bit of DRAGGING during parts of the middle. I sort of enjoyed the stuff between Lois and Clark -- especially when they were on opposite sides of the door, talking. But all that emotional stuff, and talk of regrets, yadda yadda yadda, with Mom, dead Dad, Lois, Chloe, Oliver -- and then EVEN LEX LUTHOR?!?!? -- ALL while that FREAKIN' FIREY PLANET was getting so close to Earth you could SMELL the sulfer and brimstone?!? That was MORE than "a bit much," I thought. You don't stand around and "talk about your feelings" when the WHOLE FREAKIN' PLANET is about to be vaporized!

Still, I LOVED the way it ended (I have to wonder, too, however why it would be 7 years later and Clark and Lois are STILL not hitched -- and that news feed LOOKED TO ME like it said Lionel was just elected -- HOWEVER if his memory were truly wiped, perhaps he'd be "better"?), and although I caught only about the last HALF of the series, I must say, WELL DONE, VERY WELL DONE, INDEED!
Jeff
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I just LOVED the last 20 minutes -- from the point where Clark gets WALLOPED by DarkLionelSeid and then goes into "life-flash-before-my-eyes" WAKETHEHELLUP! mode!

Frakkin' awesome, it was!




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and that news feed LOOKED TO ME like it said Lionel was just elected -- HOWEVER if his memory were truly wiped, perhaps he'd be "better"?)

LEX. It was prophesied that he would become an "evil" president; not so sure now after his memory wipe..
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LEX. It was prophesied that he would become an "evil" president; not so sure now after his memory wipe..[/quote]

Me, neither, rezzy. In fact I've been pondering that a good bit since watching the finale a few hours ago (I didn't actually get to it until about 6 hours after it ran here).

In the episode where Clark saw a future with Lex as president, he was ONE EVIL SOB. But then THAT Lex was "the same ole Lex," from what we could tell. When they ran that brief clip about Lex being the new president, neither Chloe, nor Lois, nor Clark seemed the least bit alarmed or upset about it, and with Rosenbaum's usual FLAT expression for Lex Luthor, it was impossible to tell in that brief clip WHAT he might be.

I read some actor I don't think I've ever even heard of before has been chosen to star in the NEW "Superman" movie (couldn't do much worse than Brandon Routh). It really wouldn't bother ME if they made a "Superman" movie with THESE actors in it. Of course based on some of the comments above, Tom Welling just MIGHT need to start working out AND go on a diet. Other than that, however, it would be nice to get to see what grows from a memory-erased Lex Luthor finding himself alone in an office in a big building with a stabbed dead young woman he doesn't know, and has no idea who even stabbed her.

Somehow, however, I don't think the cast members are up for it (unless the money's RIGHT), and I'm not sure any of the movie studios want to continue this storyline into a movie. But, yaneverknow... I mean, GEESH, they've made HOW MANY "FLINTSTONES" movies??? That was a long-dead franchise with nowhere NEAR the following of "Superman!"
Jeff
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Other than that, however, it would be nice to get to see what grows from a memory-erased Lex Luthor finding himself alone in an office in a big building with a stabbed dead young woman he doesn't know, and has no idea who even stabbed her.

Were this not the final finale, that might be a huge problem. A clone of Lex kills someone and becomes POTUS. Only he doesn't know he did it, because of his memory-wipe. His murderous deed seems to have (gone) unnoticed by Chloe, Clark, Lois and Oliver; perhaps it was attributed to AlterLionel.

And I really thought Conner (SuperBoy) would regain his memories and become the new Lex..
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And when they started playing the "Superman" theme by Jerry Seigel

Come on, everyone knows that John Williams composed the Superman theme. Jerry Siegel was one of the creators of the comic.


Finale sounds great, can't wait to watch it when I get back from vacation.
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Frakkin' awesome, it was!
Has there ever been anything that was teased and hinted about for 10 long years - something that the audience knew was inevitable? Even though we knew it would happen at the end, there was still a bunch of anticipation built up because we hadn't seen this particular Superman in the suit yet.
post #507 of 588
I thought it was an excellent finale. It had some hokey parts, but so does every episode of smallville. The cgi suit didn't bother me at all, especially since I dont think any human being would look good in it. Its a suit designed for comics and frankly looks a little dumb in real life or even on tv.

Pushing apocalypse out of the way was fine, but there should have been some better visuals of it, like a close up of Clarks face as he struggles to push away a planet.

I understand why lois and Clark didn't get married, as everything was setup to bring us to modern superman times, I.e. Jimmy Olson and perry white working at the planet, and lex being president without the memories of Clark as superman, etc.
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Come on, everyone knows that John Williams composed the Superman theme. Jerry Siegel was one of the creators of the comic.

Finale sounds great, can't wait to watch it when I get back from vacation.
Ha...Lol. when he said that and the cristal palace thing I stopped reading his post lol
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Well the finale certainly met Smallville standards. It's a shame that every big climactic moment has to come down to one big blurry super punch. I remember someone said earlier in the thread that there are some contractual problems with the suit; don't know if that played into the silly shots we got of Tom...either way far out as CGI or just a face show with CGI cape in the back.

Can't say I disagree with the comments about pacing, but when the score started to play, it was ultimately all worth it. His first appearance was saving a plane, which was cool as it matched the comics. Thought for a second he'd go lift a car too. Oh well. Kinda wished someone would have named him from the Blur in a line of dialogue before we flash-forwarded 7 years, too.

I joined Smallville "live" in season 6. It's been a fun re-imagining. I look forward to the direction being taken with Superman on the big screen under the guidance of Christopher Nolan.
post #510 of 588
Just watched the finale, even though I haven't seen an episode from the last two seasons. I thought the finale was great, maybe anti-climatic for the faithful that watched all the way through, but for those of us that quit watching a while back, it was fitting.

I too would like to see a "Superman" movie with this cast, they all play their parts well.

As for the 2018 election thing, my guess is that it was just a DC universe thing.
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