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But other than AltLionel's overly-done "deal-with-the-devil"...

I think he's going for the "Tommy Chong" look these days.
post #542 of 594
So I just watched the finale and thought it was just OK- it changed quite a few things from the Supes mythos, the biggest one being Green Arrow/Black Canary. Another thing that kind of bugged me was that why weren't the JL/JSA members at Clark/Lois' wedding? Bad enough they made absolutely no appearances fighting Apocalypse, but they've been major players in the last 2 seasons of Smallville and in the last 2 episodes we don't get to see even the Martian Manhunter?

At least the last few minutes were good- It's just too bad they ended the series with so many plot-holes.
post #543 of 594
There was just too much time filler in this episode.

First we got to hear Clark and Lois's vows twice. Once during that over-long door scene, and then again at the altar. We didn't need that. Once was enough.

Although the worst time killer was the wedged in clip show for both Clark and Lex. Most of the clips for Clark, and few of them even involved Lois (did any?) who was supposed to be the love of his life. Then the clips of Lex after being told that this super virus would wipe his memories implied that it wiped all of his childhood pain and trauma that the show so eloquently built up his character with. He NEEDS that pain to be the evil person he grew to be. Without them, he'd probably be a pretty good guy. It neutralized the entire character arc of Lex, which was just about the most enjoyable aspect of the show. Back when it was freak of the week, we still had a very interesting journey for Lex.

Not to mention if Tess knew that her blood would wipe Lex's memory, what was her plan to do with it? How did she reasonably expect to get it on him, unless her plan was to die. If that was so, why did she fight so hard not to have her heart transplanted into him? Wouldn't that have done the same thing?

Why was there a comic book that chronicled Clark's journey from Smallville to being Superman? Talk about giving away the secret. And why did it take seven years to walk back down the aisle, especially since the only roadblock the show offered to the first wedding was given at the zero hour the episode before the finale and seemed like it only existed to create conflict for the finale. It wasn't organic at all.

If Darkseid was the worst villain he'd ever face, why did it only take flying through him to vanquish him. Couldn't Kara have done that? She's been flying for years. It was the worst fight since Clark defeated Doomsday by flying him into a power plant. The fight between Clark and Bizarro was better staged, on a TV budget, five years ago. And if Apokalyspe was under it's own power to crash into Earth, why would a super push prevent them from doing that? Couldn't they have just upped the throttle a bit?

The whole thing wreaked of lazy writing. I've read rough drafts with more logic. None of my complaints stem from them not "getting it right" based on some pre-conceived notion of how the Superman mythos should play out. I understand the infinite earths idea and that this is just one of them in the DC universe. These are just flaws in their own storytelling logic. It was just bad, and intensely disappointing.
post #544 of 594
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Originally Posted by Chad R View Post

Not to mention if Tess knew that her blood would wipe Lex's memory, what was her plan to do with it? How did she reasonably expect to get it on him, unless her plan was to die. If that was so, why did she fight so hard not to have her heart transplanted into him? Wouldn't that have done the same thing?

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Watch the scene again, it wasn't her blood, it was a neurotoxin toxin that Lex developed that she wiped on his cheek. She didn't have to die to get it on him, irt was on her glove.
post #545 of 594
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Originally Posted by Chad R View Post

There was just too much time filler in this episode.

First we got to hear Clark and Lois's vows twice. Once during that over-long door scene, and then again at the altar. We didn't need that. Once was enough.



If Darkseid was the worst villain he'd ever face, why did it only take flying through him to vanquish him. Couldn't Kara have done that? She's been flying for years. It was the worst fight since Clark defeated Doomsday by flying him into a power plant. The fight between Clark and Bizarro was better staged, on a TV budget, five years ago. And if Apokalyspe was under it's own power to crash into Earth, why would a super push prevent them from doing that? Couldn't they have just upped the throttle a bit?

The whole thing wreaked of lazy writing. I've read rough drafts with more logic. None of my complaints stem from them not "getting it right" based on some pre-conceived notion of how the Superman mythos should play out. I understand the infinite earths idea and that this is just one of them in the DC universe. These are just flaws in their own storytelling logic. It was just bad, and intensely disappointing.

Thought I was the only one who felt that way. Could and SHOULD have been so much better.
post #546 of 594
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Originally Posted by Chad R View Post

There was just too much time filler in this episode.

...Why was there a comic book that chronicled Clark's journey from Smallville to being Superman? Talk about giving away the secret. ...

What if the last ten years was just a comic book story Chloe was reading to her little boy?
post #547 of 594
The problem with the show is you have to fill in all their crap mistakes/plotholes...

IE:
1) Chloe made the comic for her son herself.
2) Lex still fells all the hate, resentment, etc... even thought he can't remember the exact reasons why... like we all remember how to tie our shoes, but no one remembers when exactly we learned how.
3) C&L taking 7 yrs to marry... Supes got too busy once he came out
post #548 of 594
The finale was the only episode I watched this season. Was Kara in any episodes? I'll definitely have to check those out if she was.
post #549 of 594
Thread Starter 
I know she was in one episode for sure this season, possibly two. You'd think she would've been too busy with V to reappear in Smallville.
post #550 of 594
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Originally Posted by taz291819 View Post

Was Kara in any episodes?

Yes, two - episodes 3 ("Supergirl") and 20 ("Prophecy").

Remember to FF through the parts with the hideously offensive Cassidy Freeman real quick, though, if you don't want to ruin your enjoyment of the truly good-looking babes.
post #551 of 594
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I think I remember you deleting that the last time, too. Anyways, one can find titles for every episode of every season at: www.kryptonsite.com
post #552 of 594
Gee maybe you should put that line about Cassidy in your sig, I don't think I've seen a post by you in this thread without that comment. We get it.....
post #553 of 594
Hey, that actually would've been a good idea - too bad it's too late now.

Anyway, if I had done that, then I wouldn't have had anything else to put in the actual posts this season, since I found her so repulsive it actually made me stop watching the show.
post #554 of 594
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Anyway, if I had done that, then I wouldn't have had anything else to put in the actual posts this season, since I found her so repulsive it actually made me stop watching the show.

Must be something wrong with me...I like all three!
post #555 of 594
Oh, I don't know but I think Tess had a couple points in her favor


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FYI
In case anyone missed the finale last Friday, the CW is rebroadcasting it tonight (Thu. 5/19)... in socal at least, at 8:00PM PDT.
post #557 of 594
I'm just glad that it's finally over - it was long overdue.
post #558 of 594
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Originally Posted by Rammitinski View Post

Hey, that actually would've been a good idea - too bad it's too late now.

Anyway, if I had done that, then I wouldn't have had anything else to put in the actual posts this season, since I found her so repulsive it actually made me stop watching the show.

Then you must have been happy when Lex killed her.
post #559 of 594
I thought "Isis" was a good episdoe. I think you know why...

I expected a little more from the finale. Clark flying at the end for a few minutes just doesn't add up to the 10 year wait.

MartianManhunter was a no show. He definetly needed an appearance. He was mentioned by Chloe but that didn't really mean anything.

I was also hoping for more kick ass action from Clark. We didn't really get much of that. Half of the series he ends up losing his powers breifly due to kryptonite it seems.

With that said, it could have been much worse so I'll try not to complain too much. I suppose they were probably limited due to budget reasons.
post #560 of 594
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Then you must have been happy when Lex killed her.

Well, it was bittersweet - because it didn't happen soon enough (for me).

Actually, I felt a little twinge of anger, because I thought that if she were so unimportant that they could've killed her off so easily and uneventfully - well......you know.

Anyway, I always felt as if they were just "sticking" her character in the show to fill time - but if they were just doing that, why didn't they at least get another super-babe like Vandervoort or Durance?
post #561 of 594
Welling was the full-time executive producer all season. I wonder if that had anything to do with the lacklusterness?
post #562 of 594
I really wish the the hating of the actress that plays Tess would go away.

The character Tess was not a very good one... similar in a lot of ways to how schizophrenic Lana Lang was written...

but the actresses that played those roles aren't to blame for that... and I like the actresses themselves... just not the characters.

Some of the ugly comments regarding Freeman really seem over the top to me and unnecessary. We saw this in the Heroes thread too where someone had it in for Ali Larter for some reason and was practically stalking her. The comments on Cassidy Freeman are starting to read similarly to me.
post #563 of 594
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I really wish the the hating of the actress that plays Tess would go away.

The character Tess was not a very good one... similar in a lot of ways to how schizophrenic Lana Lang was written...

but the actresses that played those roles aren't to blame for that... and I like the actresses themselves... just not the characters.

Some of the ugly comments regarding Freeman really seem over the top to me and unnecessary. We saw this in the Heroes thread too where someone had it in for Ali Larter for some reason and was practically stalking her. The comments on Cassidy Freeman are starting to read similarly to me.

I don't get it either, the chick is hot.
post #564 of 594
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We saw this in the Heroes thread too where someone had it in for Ali Larter for some reason and was practically stalking her. The comments on Cassidy Freeman are starting to read similarly to me.

Yeah, I figured there would be someone who'd overreact.

Believe me, outside of this thread I don't ever give the chick a second thought.
post #565 of 594
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Originally Posted by Rammitinski View Post

....but if they were just doing that, why didn't they at least get another super-babe like Vandervoort or Durance?

Based on that picture posted above (I missed the episode in question), she certainly looked "super-babe-ish" to me, maybe even more than Vandervoort or Durance.

I've always suspected that Durance's superstructure may owe more to some plastic surgeon than Momma Nature. Cassidy's is obviously au natural, so that gives her a big edge in my book.
post #566 of 594
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Based on that picture posted above (I missed the episode in question), she certainly looked "super-babe-ish" to me, maybe even more than Vandervoort or Durance.

I've always suspected that Durance's superstructure may owe more to some plastic surgeon than Momma Nature. Cassidy's is obviously au natural, so that gives her a big edge in my book.

I believe it was the April 15 Episode 17 Season 10. She drew some positive comments.
post #567 of 594
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Based on that picture posted above (I missed the episode in question), she certainly looked "super-babe-ish" to me...

Yeah, I missed that episode, too, but I believe I may have it on my DVR, so I'll have to look for it, and try to force myself to sit through it.

Based on that picture, I'd hit it, too - but she'd have to put a bag over her head and keep her mouth shut.
post #568 of 594
Previously on Smallville...

It ended.

post #569 of 594
I've purposely stayed away, until I could catch up on all the episodes, including the two hour finale I watched last night...

You've all taken this apart already, but this being an audio-video forum, I'll second the notion that tv budget limitations hurt the potential for an epic finale.

CGI - yes, what could we expect? Welling in a suit made for him? 30 lbs in 10 years? Busy working every day as a producer this last season, that exercise wasn't a realistic option to undo 10 years.

Action / fight scenes - No real physical battle with Darkseid. Doomsday got more play. Battle with Zod was pretty awesome. But the lead up to the finale? The best fight / action scenes were between Oliver and Clark!

Writing - ok, there were plot holes to fill over 10 years. Some of them were done well, some of them were hastily written and poof - loose end tied up. Should've done more justice to some characters, but... oh well. Agreed, there was too much time spent on the pre-wedding / wedding scenes. We get that Lois and Clark's relationship is SOLID - no need for pre-wedding jitters to waste 20+ minutes of a 80 min dual episode. Lex and Clark talk to each other - that's it? Some good lines, but overall, I was hoping for more. Maybe Rosenbaum's out of practice in this role, but probably a writer's issue. He wasn't into it enough for me.

Music - OK, iconic William's theme at the end. I'm good with that. The earlier comments about how the music takes us back to 1978, goosebumps, everything - yes, I agree. But what the hell was the 10 year flashback all about? I'll insist that all of you re-play this finale, and actually listen to the music during that flashback. We're audiophiles, and they pull this synthesized "orchestral music" on us for a series finale??? It would've been less CHEESY if they had contracted a real orchestra to play the music. You know - violins, violas, violas, string bass, trumpets...

It looked and sounded exactly like what it was: TV sci-fi. Remember the Superboy series? The soundtrack drove me NUTS. Cheese, cheese, cheese. The finale's use of synthesized string instruments really killed the finale for me - truly disappointing!

I'm of the mind to re-watch that scene, turn off the sound, and ipod the real John William's score. After last night, I wanna watch Superman Returns again, just for the music!!

Thanks for letting me rant about my favorite television show for the last 10 years.
post #570 of 594
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Originally Posted by PilotAce View Post

Music - OK, iconic William's theme at the end. I'm good with that. The earlier comments about how the music takes us back to 1978, goosebumps, everything - yes, I agree. But what the hell was the 10 year flashback all about? I'll insist that all of you re-play this finale, and actually listen to the music during that flashback. We're audiophiles, and they pull this synthesized "orchestral music" on us for a series finale??? It would've been less CHEESY if they had contracted a real orchestra to play the music. You know - violins, violas, violas, string bass, trumpets...

I'm of the mind to re-watch that scene, turn off the sound, and ipod the real John William's score. After last night, I wanna watch Superman Returns again, just for the music!!

"Audiophiles" should not be listening to ANYTHING on an ipod. Ipod has its purpose. But for audiophiles, it's laughable. If you want to listen to the score as it was intended to sound to its truest, most pure form, then it needs to be rocked on Vinyl!
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