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post #211 of 709
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No difference at all. Its mainly for stability carrying the signal and avoiding the blu screen due to handshake issues. I remember used to think it was the duo or the pre amp(before I had the duo) and all along it was my bloody cables. I even got rid of my sony bdp 350 because at times it didn't handshake properly.

I noted the more expensive silver-coated cables have a greater percentage of silver coating. The Pangeas have 4%; I saw another (Audioquest I think) at 10%. I do experience audio dropouts and such with my cable TV sometimes, but that could be the source, not necessarily the cables. Then, the recent problem with video from my 09FD turned out to be an HDMI gone bad.

For the cable box, I might go to component for a while and see what happens.
post #212 of 709
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Here is the latest Billy Bags design, again a tweak of my last design. We're talking square pillars and shelves now, and a cleaner look.

This one, with some special feet to get it off the floor a bit more (still not as much as I want), is more money than I was counting on. And with recent developments back home, I'm not sure I should pursue it. A couple of family members are ill, with an ex sister-in-law in hospice care and a sister-in-law battling cancer, and funds may have to be diverted to those so I'm reluctant to drop over $2200 on a new rack now.

I'm looking into Salamander and may contact a custom furniture place about something also. In any case, with any rack, I may have to forego the planned new, shorter power cords and use the ones I have now. Still considering possibilities on this, though I'm keeping an eye on what happens back home.

 

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post #213 of 709
Charles, I am sorry to hear about your family members and I truly hope things will turn around...

I checked out your schematics and I think you can have a local welder do it - some shops can even powder coat it in-house - for about a quarter of what Billy Bags wants.
post #214 of 709
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Charles, I am sorry to hear about your family members and I truly hope things will turn around...

I checked out your schematics and I think you can have a local welder do it - some shops can even powder coat it in-house - for about a quarter of what Billy Bags wants.

Since this is New York, a quarter is probably on the low end , but it should be cheaper, yes. Then the only problem would be leveling, as the floor here is uneven. Furniture casters, perhaps similar to what I have propping up the front legs of my Hooker cabinet, may work.

Research will be paramount in going for a welder. I wouldn't want to just stab at a name in the yellow pages for this, and in a way it will be more work than the current tack, but worth considering. Meantime, I e-mailed Billy Bags this AM and advised them of the situation. They have standard models that could work with a few tweaks, and I'm sure it would cost less than the current design.
post #215 of 709
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I think I have the more or less final idea for what I'd like this rack to look like. It's a variation on one of Billy Bags' standard designs. I might explore the welder or custom furniture maker option next. the pillars can be made square easily if that's simpler or cheaper.

 

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post #216 of 709
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Okay, Salamander is officially eliminated, as they don't do custom widths, though they do custom heights. Not wanting to move my side racks, and hoping to avoid new interconnects, I'm trying to keep this new one to 58" wide. The current space available i5 59.25" so it's tight.

I did begin a general search for welders in Brooklyn and found several. More detailed follow-up is needed, and maybe a visit to one or two. And I haven't tried Billy Bags with my last design (though the last e-mail I got wasn't from the person I'd been dealing with and it had a ring of finality to it).
post #217 of 709
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And now, Billy Bags seems eliminated, as I submitted my final designs, which according to the rep cannot be done for the $2000 max figure I gave. In fact, it would be just over $3000! So unless something major occurs (such as suddenly finding more space for one of the pre-fab racks or I come into some money), Billy Bags is out, too. Too bad, because I like their products.

I am back to checking out a welder or woodworking place, either of which I'm sure can give me something under my budget. Or, inconvenient as it is, I could just keep my hooker console and save the money. Not sure right now, but I'll deal with it until a good opportunity comes or the idea of a new rack wears off.
post #218 of 709
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And now, Billy Bags seems eliminated, as I submitted my final designs, which according to the rep cannot be done for the $2000 max figure I gave. In fact, it would be just over $3000! So unless something major occurs (such as suddenly finding more space for one of the pre-fab racks or I come into some money), Billy Bags is out, too. Too bad, because I like their products.

I am back to checking out a welder or woodworking place, either of which I'm sure can give me something under my budget. Or, inconvenient as it is, I could just keep my hooker console and save the money. Not sure right now, but I'll deal with it until a good opportunity comes or the idea of a new rack wears off.

Greetings Prepress. Have you considered getting an out-of-state welder to make the rack for you and then ship it? It may take a trip to the mountains of PA or CT, but if you can find a welder in a sparsely populated area, they may be in less of an "assembly-line" mode and can sit down with you and build precisely what you want, for what may be a fraction of the cost.
post #219 of 709
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Greetings Prepress. Have you considered getting an out-of-state welder to make the rack for you and then ship it? It may take a trip to the mountains of PA or CT, but if you can find a welder in a sparsely populated area, they may be in less of an "assembly-line" mode and can sit down with you and build precisely what you want, for what may be a fraction of the cost.
I hadn't thought of that. Searching by the local phone book is probably hit or miss, even local online. But out of state is another idea. I may do that. Glad I thought of it !

Obviously, thanks. When I pick up the research again, I'll look out of NY as well as in. Not this weekend, of course, given the circumstances.
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Not this weekend, of course, given the circumstances.
Hope all is going well Prepress! Is your area under evacuation from Irene?
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Hope all is going well Prepress! Is your area under evacuation from Irene?

Not my immediate area, no. I did note the high school across the street is an evacuation center, though. I was on call for the possibility of having to go into work today (I work at NYC Transit's print shop), but the call hasn't come. I doubt it would at this point. And interestingly, I think the shop is in an evacuation area itself.

It's supposed to get bad overnight into the AM, with the storm out of here maybe late afternoon tomorrow. It's begun raining, but nothing dramatic. I guess that could well change.
post #222 of 709
Hope you and yours are not severely impacted.

I was scheduled to go up to NJ early next week but just cancelled last minute. Hopefully my family and friends will be OK as well and hopefully the media/news is blowing this out of proportion.

Stay dry and safe!

Claude
post #223 of 709
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Hope you and yours are not severely impacted.

I was scheduled to go up to NJ early next week but just cancelled last minute. Hopefully my family and friends will be OK as well and hopefully the media/news is blowing this out of proportion.

Stay dry and safe!

Claude
Thanks. I figure that, just before bed, I'll shut down the A/V system. Even though it's protected with two Furmans, I think this is a good idea. Possibly I'll turn off the SPR 20i (which everything's plugged into) and unplug it from the Elite-15PF (done), or turn off and unplug the Elite also. The surges that can accompany power outtages are something I'd like to avoid if we have an outtage.

The computer's on another set of equipment (two Tripplites), and I'll deal with that perhaps the same way. But I'd like to figure out how to do it without the annoying noise the UPS in the voltage regulator makes.
post #224 of 709
Thats a really good idea to unplug everything. It's one thing if you get damage to your home and have the insurance take care of it but waiting months to get your gear back up and running when it could have been avoided cant be fun
post #225 of 709
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I've turned everything back on, but my cable box isn't cooperating. At first, it gave me channel banners but only gray screen. Having rebooted, it's been "acquiring application information" for about 20 minutes. I wonder.
post #226 of 709
Yeah I had a surge hit my system awhile back and it killed my PS3 and a few other items. I knew too that I should have unplugged everything but I didn't. Luckily it didn't really do any real damage or I would have been quite annoyed.
post #227 of 709
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Yeah I had a surge hit my system awhile back and it killed my PS3 and a few other items. I knew too that I should have unplugged everything but I didn't. Luckily it didn't really do any real damage or I would have been quite annoyed.

The equipment that got zapped is replaceable, PC. Be glad for that, and that it (I hope) wasn't costly to do. Did you have any kind of power protection on it?

My cable box still reads "Alt." I wonder if I did something to it when I rebooted, maybe I forgot to turn it off before plugging it back in? I guess I have to consider a new box.
post #228 of 709
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Update: I called Time Warner Cable regarding my recalcitrant box, and was told that sometimes, when a box has been disconnected for a while, it needs a signal from the office to resume functionality. That was the case here. So everything's running fine.

On the other hand, I went outside for the first time since Saturday afternoon, and saw that one of the large trees up the street was blown over. It didn't hit any buildings, but that part of the block's a mess.
post #229 of 709
Good to hear you are safe and dry Prepress! It seems that many were not so lucky.
post #230 of 709
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I am now thinking about chucking my earlier ideas on a new main rack and considering this Salamander:

http://www.thesimpletvstandstore.com...-30-doors.aspx

Yes, it's too wide for the current space I have, but I find I'm actually willing to explore making room for it. That would mean moving the speakers another 6" or so further apart, which gets problematic due to the limited space on the left. But as I say, I'm willing to see if I can figure out how to do it. If I come up with a workable layout, I may go for it. And I can save money if I get only the basic rack, not the doors and rear panels and such.
post #231 of 709
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Good to hear you are safe and dry Prepress! It seems that many were not so lucky.

That's true, unfortunately. there was severe damage, mostly flooding, upstate. Here some businesses and homes took damage, but things could have been worse if Irene had been stronger.
post #232 of 709
Hi prepress, just stopping in to say Hi.

That is a nice stand you are considering.
post #233 of 709
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Hi prepress, just stopping in to say Hi.

That is a nice stand you are considering.

I think so too, HTG.

The full setup, as shown in the link, retails for about $1465. The rack alone is less than a grand, MSRP. It comes in different combinations with black or aluminum rods and black, walnut, cherry, or maple finishes. I'd like to see oak (since all the wood in my room is oak), but black works. It will take some serious maneuvering as to whether it will work in my room.

EDIT: maybe VERY serious maneuvering. If I spread out the Sanus racks and my speakers to accommodate the Synergy 30, I have no room to move the LP racks from behind the left side of the room, and tighter access to get to them. Uh-oh. Still, I remain undaunted so far.
post #234 of 709
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I am now thinking about chucking my earlier ideas on a new main rack and considering this Salamander:

http://www.thesimpletvstandstore.com...-30-doors.aspx

Yes, it's too wide for the current space I have, but I find I'm actually willing to explore making room for it. That would mean moving the speakers another 6" or so further apart, which gets problematic due to the limited space on the left. But as I say, I'm willing to see if I can figure out how to do it. If I come up with a workable layout, I may go for it. And I can save money if I get only the basic rack, not the doors and rear panels and such.

Hey Prepress. What's up, man?

That's the exact same stand I have. I also ordered it from the same place. Cheapest I could find. Plus no tax and free shipping. Can't beat that. What color you thinking about getting?
post #235 of 709
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Hey Prepress. What's up, man?

That's the exact same stand I have. I also ordered it from the same place. Cheapest I could find. Plus no tax and free shipping. Can't beat that. What color you thinking about getting?

Waboman, hello there!

Right now, I'm thinking black, though I'm not sure whether to get black or aluminum pillars; the aluminum ones might stand out too much and be a visual distraction. So, black/black or walnut/black are where I'd lean now. Cherry's reddish color doesn't work in here, and maple may be too light against everything else. The black/black combo is visually quieter, I think, especially when lights are low, as it disappears more against the TV screen. I need to pop over to your thread and take another look at your setup for some perspective.
post #236 of 709
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Waboman, hello there!

Right now, I'm thinking black, though I'm not sure whether to get black or aluminum pillars; the aluminum ones might stand out too much and be a visual distraction. So, black/black or walnut/black are where I'd lean now. Cherry's reddish color doesn't work in here, and maple may be too light against everything else. The black/black combo is visually quieter, I think, especially when lights are low, as it disappears more against the TV screen. I need to pop over to your thread and take another look at your setup for some perspective.

Hey Prepress.

I think the black/black is pretty sexy. But then again, the black w/ aluminum pillars looks really good too. It might compliment your components more. Tough decisions, amigo. So, which way are you leaning?

As I said in my thread, get the casters. It will make your life so much easier.
post #237 of 709
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I am planning a minor room rearrangement. Will take a pic or two when it's complete (that is, if the camera still works).

And, I'm still considering how I could make the Salamander fit in here; this will be tricky. And how to get rid of the Hooker console, which is nice but is awkward with my equipment. Access is a challenge, rear access in particular.
post #238 of 709
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I went to the annual VE HDTV shoot-out and saw the new Sharp/Pioneer Elite TV. What a good-looking set. There is a problem with the color (blue specifically) that if they get it solved, the Elite could be the TV to beat. Ridiculously good contrast ratio and black level. Being an LCD, the off-axis view suffers some, but the black bars were very black, very close to Kuro levels. If I were starting over and didn't have a 111FD but had the money I'd consider the Elite.
post #239 of 709
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Also, this arrived today.



I was surprised it came on a Sunday, I didn't know FedEx delivered on Sundays. But I'll install it tomorrow and see if there's any difference over the BJC I use now. This Pangea will connect my Duo VP to the TV.
LL
post #240 of 709
Maaaaan, those cables are looking fierce!!! Can't wait to hear your impressions of them!
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