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post #31 of 49
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Originally Posted by wisny View Post

I found the coolest article on modding the Canons, it sounds so simple, and the Pixma looks so easy to use. I watched a vid of a guy in the UK demonstrating the Canon's functions.

Article: http://www.cameratown.com/articles/c...d_printing.cfm

YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2VcHUh8M9vk

Now, that youtube is just one model, I think all the Pixmas can be modded? In reading the comments on the youtube, the guy was surprised that disc printing was disabled in the US. Unfortunately, he did not demonstrate that function of his Canon, I wish he did. He demonstrated scanning and photoprinting.

LOL I think it was this youtube that makes me lean towards the Canon, if I do purchase a disc printer. It seems like a good unit, not just for disc printing, but for photos and regular printing and scanning, too.

What a coincidence, I have the two printers mentioned here. Just like in the first link above, I modded a Canon ip3000 to print directly on CDs and DVDs. Here's how.




I also have the Canon MP640, the exact one in the youtube video, which in Canada anyway, comes with CD/DVD printing enabled out of the box.

Both work great on the printable Taiyo Yudens I burn, both the regular inkjet hub printables and the really nice-looking glossy TY inkjet hub printable Watershields.


I've recently also gotten an HP Photosmart Premium C309 All-in-One Printer Series, which also prints directly to CDs and DVDs.




I think Gutenberg might be impressed.
post #32 of 49
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Originally Posted by gastrof View Post

I'm still using one of the Casios, an early one, the CW-50, I think.

I use only the top of each disc, and have never viewed the results as having poor resolution. It is what it is, and it does its job. For the price, compared with other disc-only printers I've looked into, it's great. (And printing on only the top of each disc, while requiring a bit of creativity, does double the life of each ribbon.)

Ribbon prices thru tapewarehouse.com aren't bad.

Using this Casio with a computer allows use of any font the computer has onboard, and you can also include images from picture files by copying and pasting them into the Casio's setup window.

If this one goes, I hope there'll be a current model that'll work with my computer. I'd be in a pickle without it. No signs of it having any problems, tho', and this is at least five years into its life, if not longer.


Thx for your response, gastrof ChurchGuy replied in the other thread that he's using a Casio too. Maybe it's a newer model? It's an 85:

http://www.amazon.com/CSOCWK85-Direc...7468636&sr=8-5


Do those things let you put black titles on any disc, or do you need thermal printable discs with those? It seems I remember that question being addressed, but I can't remember the answer.

For now, I'm just labelling my discs with post-its. I've just begun archiving my old video collection, I figured I'd just get started with the archiving, and later, after I'm comfortable with what I'm doing, and also after I've spent more time learning about the pros and cons of labelling options, I'll get a printer.
post #33 of 49
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Originally Posted by plplplpl View Post

What a coincidence, I have the two printers mentioned here. Just like in the first link above, I modded a Canon ip3000 to print directly on CDs and DVDs. Here's how.




I also have the Canon MP640, the exact one in the youtube video, which in Canada anyway, comes with CD/DVD printing enabled out of the box.

Both work great on the printable Taiyo Yudens I burn, both the regular inkjet hub printables and the really nice-looking glossy TY inkjet hub printable Watershields.


I've recently also gotten an HP Photosmart Premium C309 All-in-One Printer Series, which also prints directly to CDs and DVDs.




I think Gutenberg might be impressed.


Hi plplplpl

Thx for posting! I was wondering if disc printing on the Canons was enabled in Canada. I was considering possibly ordering from Canada, if it was enabled out of the box Oh, hey, I didn't know about glossy Watershield discs. More good info to know

Do you have a preference for the one over the other? And, did you find it at all difficult to mod the ip3000? Or was it a snap?

Keep in mind, it took me almost 4 hrs yesterday just to figure out that you had to actually tell a dvd recorder to look for S-video input, rather than composite input. I am a *complete* beginner at archiving old vhs tapes onto dvds.
post #34 of 49
The Canon ip3000 as well as the Canon MP 640 are older models and I haven't seen them in the stores in quite a while, although they occasionally pop up on a well-known auction site that starts with "e" and ends with "bay," but I have seen a more recent Canon model in stores here for under a hundred bucks which has CD/DVD printing enabled out of the box. Models tend to change every six months to a year, but I've consistently seen one or two Canons with CD/DVD printing enabled always available in stores here.
post #35 of 49
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Originally Posted by plplplpl View Post
The Canon ip3000 as well as the Canon MP 640 are older models and I haven't seen them in the stores in quite a while, although they occasionally pop up on a well-known auction site that starts with "e" and ends with "bay," but I have seen a more recent Canon model in stores here for under a hundred bucks which has CD/DVD printing enabled out of the box. Models tend to change every six months to a year, but I've consistently seen one or two Canons with CD/DVD printing enabled always available in stores here.

Thankyou again, plplplpl . I appreciate the info.
post #36 of 49
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Originally Posted by wisny View Post

...titles on any disc, or do you need thermal printable discs with those? It seems I remember that question being addressed, but I can't remember the answer...

The standard silver surface DVDs and CDs work fine in the Casios, especially if there's no writing or logos on them, just a plain empty silvery surface.

The white surfaced discs do not.
post #37 of 49
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Originally Posted by wisny View Post

Do those things let you put black titles on any disc, or do you need thermal printable discs with those? It seems I remember that question being addressed, but I can't remember the answer.

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Originally Posted by gastrof View Post

The standard silver surface DVDs and CDs work fine in the Casios, especially if there's no writing or logos on them, just a plain empty silvery surface.

The white surfaced discs do not.

Also, if your disks have any raised edges, even by a very small amount, the printing will be poor. The surface must be completely flat. Sometimes, if you have a DVD with lines on it, you can find another spot on the disk that will work.
post #38 of 49
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Originally Posted by gastrof View Post

The standard silver surface DVDs and CDs work fine in the Casios, especially if there's no writing or logos on them, just a plain empty silvery surface.

The white surfaced discs do not.

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Originally Posted by Church AV Guy View Post

Also, if your disks have any raised edges, even by a very small amount, the printing will be poor. The surface must be completely flat. Sometimes, if you have a DVD with lines on it, you can find another spot on the disk that will work.


Good info to know! Thankyou, gastrof and Church AV Guy
post #39 of 49
The HP C5550 with "Sure Thing" software is excellent for printing on blank ink jet DVD's or CD"s. The program can also print covers.
post #40 of 49
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Originally Posted by ernie6 View Post

The HP C5550 with "Sure Thing" software is excellent for printing on blank ink jet DVD's or CD"s. The program can also print covers.


Thanks, ernie6 . I'd heard that some HPs could do it, but I wasn't sure which ones. Good info to know!
post #41 of 49
Acoustica CD/DVD Label Maker is one of the best label making programs. I use it along with Canon's CD Label Print and Nero Cover Designer.

I used to use Epson Print CD when I had an Epson R300, but when it broke I was stuck because Epson Print CD does not work with other printers and has no way to export labels you've created as image files. Acoustica CD/DVD Label Maker and Canon Print CD do, either as .BMPs or JPGs, so you can use you designs later or with different printers.

Acoustica CD/DVD Label Maker also comes with about a bazzilion "art pack" designs you can use or adapt, but you can make your own designs from scratch with its pretty flexible tools. It's also the only program I know that supports direct-to-CD/DVD printing with a plethora of printers, including all three of the ones I own that have that feature, the Canon ip3000, the Canon MP640 and even the HP Photosmart C309a.

Although I've mostly been using the Canon CD Label Print because it came free with my Canon printer and I've been quite happy with it, I'm going to be using the Acoustica program more and more because of its power, flexibility and native support for my HP Photosmart C309a, which no other program has except for the lame program that came with it, although admittedly I haven't checked out more recent versions of Nero Cover Designer, since I'm still on version 2 included in Nero 7.
post #42 of 49
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Originally Posted by plplplpl View Post

Acoustica CD/DVD Label Maker is one of the best label making programs. I use it along with Canon's CD Label Print and Nero Cover Designer.

I used to use Epson Print CD when I had an Epson R300, but when it broke I was stuck because Epson Print CD does not work with other printers and has no way to export labels you've created as image files. Acoustica CD/DVD Label Maker and Canon Print CD do, either as .BMPs or JPGs, so you can use you designs later or with different printers.

Acoustica CD/DVD Label Maker also comes with about a bazzilion "art pack" designs you can use or adapt, but you can make your own designs from scratch with its pretty flexible tools. It's also the only program I know that supports direct-to-CD/DVD printing with a plethora of printers, including all three of the ones I own that have that feature, the Canon ip3000, the Canon MP640 and even the HP Photosmart C309a.

Although I've mostly been using the Canon CD Label Print because it came free with my Canon printer and I've been quite happy with it, I'm going to be using the Acoustica program more and more because of its power, flexibility and native support for my HP Photosmart C309a, which no other program has except for the lame program that came with it, although admittedly I haven't checked out more recent versions of Nero Cover Designer, since I'm still on version 2 included in Nero 7.


I remember seeing that title (Acoustica) on cnet.com. They had good things to say about it. I was going to check it out when I got as far as labeling in my DVD backup project. I'm glad to hear from someone who is using it. Thankyou again, plplplpl
post #43 of 49
...to use a printing idiom. Thanks to a reminder from ernie6 above, I decided to revisit SureThing CD/DVD Labeler, which I had given a brief spin many years ago, put aside and never reconsidered.

From what I've re-experienced of it over the past couple of days, it's a really good program now, and in fact I think I'll be favoring it to Acoustica for a few features it has that Acoustica or others don't have.
  1. SureThing, like the Canon CD LabelPrint program, which is pretty good (and free), has the ability to adjust the size and position of your background image, which neither Nero CoverDesigner nor Acoustica CD LabelMaker has.
  2. SureThing, just like Canon, but unlike Acoustica or Nero, has a text shadowing and border feature, which is often quite important to help text stand out from a photo background.
  3. SureThing, unlike Canon* or Nero**, but like Acoustica, has built-in printer templates for a variety of direct-to-CD printers, including my HP PhotoSmart.
  4. SureThing, just like Canon and Nero, but unlike Acoustica, can import images from a TWAIN*** device - a scanner.
  5. SureThing, unlike Canon or Nero, but on par with Acoustica, has a bunch of nice design templates and artwork you can use or adapt.

*It has templates to work with Canon direct-to-CD printers of course, but it doesn't work with other brands.

**Nero can manually create custom templates, but the process is so painstakingly tedious and hit or miss as to discourage all but the most persevering geek. I know, I've done it. There are a couple here for some Canon models, depending on whether you have a Tray B or Tray F.

***Technology Without An Interesting Name

Of course, there's always also the Photoshop route.

I would not recommend the Epson Print CD software that comes with Epson printers. Not that it's bad for designing labels, but it's the only one of the bunch, except for Nero, that doesn't have a save/export-as-image option, meaning that you're stuck with its proprietary .ec3 format and it only works on Epson printers. When you no longer have an Epson printer, like when my Espon R300 died, all your designs are no longer printable. They die with the machine, pretty much.
post #44 of 49
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Originally Posted by plplplpl View Post

...to use a printing idiom. Thanks to a reminder from ernie6 above, I decided to revisit SureThing CD/DVD Labeler, which I had given a brief spin many years ago, put aside and never reconsidered.

From what I've re-experienced of it over the past couple of days, it's a really good program now, and in fact I think I'll be favoring it to Acoustica for a few features it has that Acoustica or others don't have.
  1. SureThing, like the Canon CD LabelPrint program, which is pretty good (and free), has the ability to adjust the size and position of your background image, which neither Nero CoverDesigner nor Acoustica CD LabelMaker has.
  2. SureThing, just like Canon, but unlike Acoustica or Nero, has a text shadowing and border feature, which is often quite important to help text stand out from a photo background.
  3. SureThing, unlike Canon* or Nero**, but like Acoustica, has built-in printer templates for a variety of direct-to-CD printers, including my HP PhotoSmart.
  4. SureThing, just like Canon and Nero, but unlike Acoustica, can import images from a TWAIN*** device - a scanner.
  5. SureThing, unlike Canon or Nero, but on par with Acoustica, has a bunch of nice design templates and artwork you can use or adapt.

*It has templates to work with Canon direct-to-CD printers of course, but it doesn't work with other brands.

**Nero can manually create custom templates, but the process is so painstakingly tedious and hit or miss as to discourage all but the most persevering geek. I know, I've done it. There are a couple here for some Canon models, depending on whether you have a Tray B or Tray F.

***Technology Without An Interesting Name

Of course, there's always also the Photoshop route.


I really appreciate the updated information. I still haven't progressed this far in my archiving project, but I will get there. The more information, the better !!
post #45 of 49
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Originally Posted by vettedude View Post
The Epson 710 I had made pro looking labels on printable dvd's, didn't give a lick of trouble, and when left on in standby mode didn't seem to cycle clean.I've seen them on the officeMax web site cheaoer than at BB. Like i said above, i plan to buy another. p.s., not trying to start a printer war here, just stateing what worked great for me to the OP.
BB has the Epson Artisan 710 on sale for $99.99. For me it's ship to store option only.
post #46 of 49
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I'm using the Epson Artisan 710 and I'm quite pleased with it; however. as I've written here previously, I only use this printer to print text, e.g., film title and year, on TY white inkjet-printable labels. The DVD inserts I print with NEATO software on my Canon inkjet iP4600.
post #47 of 49
I have the wide format epson 1400. Last of the BIG, good 'ol chip-able epsons. I refill this ink HOG manually. A CIS is available for about every printer imaginable, but when they fail, well lets just say ink doesn't come out, no matter how much oxyclean is used.

The main reason this printer is a hog is simply for 3-4 cleanings it'll suck away HALF of every tank. But thats true for most epsons anyway.

I had a hunch this could use the same ink tanks as your old epson, but alas it uses the T079, not the T078s. There are tanks that are refillable, with the auto resetting chips. The bulk ink bottles use the same ink. I dunno if the 710's ink is the same...

Basically Epson has the patent rights to printing on dvds, that canon doesn't have or license in the usa.

Best get an older printer with big tanks. That HP looks interesting, big black tank. I've had better luck with repairing HP inkjets (yeah those repair forums) than with canon. Tho ma Epson is best suited for most my applications, I also run a few Hp 56/57 ink cartridge printers. Too bad they don't do dvd printing 'eh?
post #48 of 49
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Originally Posted by Chingu808 View Post
BB has the Epson Artisan 710 on sale for $99.99. For me it's ship to store option only.
Now the Epson Artisan 725 is on sale at BB also for $99.99. I believe this replaced the 710 model.
post #49 of 49
I have the HP Photosmart Premium fax printer, (it looks like the 309) and love it but agree that the cd/dvd printing software is limited. However, Sure thing software is very versatile and works with this printer. I also have lightscribe which is compatible with sure thing. One of the things I love about the software is the option to let the program read the cd for track names- LESS TYPING!

Judy
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