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post #61 of 216
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Originally Posted by foxeng View Post

The original version for the pilot was just a guitar and supposedly everyone connected with it said THAT wasn't the way to go. Keep it original sounding as possible and don't screw with it. I think they did find the original scoring and used that to rerecord it.

That being the case they should just use the original song. It was from an album that went gold in 1971 and the quality of the recording should be good enough to use on today's TV version. Unlike past theme songs that had to be rerecorded as the originals were mono and/or poor quality (Star Trek, The Jetsons) The Venture's track IMHO should be good enough to use.

I also wonder how many tracks were available on the multi-track master recording (The Beatles were using 8 track machines with St. Pepper IIRC) meaning could this song be remixed for 5.1? That would be
post #62 of 216
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Originally Posted by Drewdawg; View Post

That being the case they should just use the original song. It was from an album that went gold in 1971 and the quality of the recording should be good enough to use on today's TV version. Unlike past theme songs that had to be rerecorded as the originals were mono and/or poor quality (Star Trek, The Jetsons) The Venture's track IMHO should be good enough to use.

I also wonder how many tracks were available on the multi-track master recording (The Beatles were using 8 track machines with St. Pepper IIRC) meaning could this song be remixed for 5.1? That would be

Well, they might want to re-record it so they don't have to pay royalties for the original performance. I used to do work for Disney Records where I'd re-record movie music for them for them to use as background; they owned the rights for the music, but not the performance. You could have a similar situation here.
post #63 of 216
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Originally Posted by jandron View Post

Well, they might want to re-record it so they don't have to pay royalties for the original performance. I used to do work for Disney Records where I'd re-record movie music for them for them to use as background; they owned the rights for the music, but not the performance. You could have a similar situation here.

You may be right, but that could be only part of it. The original opening sequence ran 60 seconds. The new opening sequence only runs 30 seconds. I confirmed it by timing them. The original full length score was written off the 60 second theme version. Having to edit previously recorded material down to 30 seconds may not have flowed correctly. Also, the Ventures version, does have a dated underlying sound to it and this is a modern version reboot. The Ventures version sounds 60's meaning the transparent fidelity isn't there we associate that kind of sound to the 60's, not the 21st Century. Most of the "rock" music of the time wasn't recorded on the best equipment or tape (remember rock and roll was a teen fad and no one over 22 thought it would last for more than a few years so the record companies cut corners to maximize profits. They still do.) and over time, the sonic differences of a "rock" song intended for quick mass consumption on portable AM radio 3 inch speakers compared to a "pop" song of an Andy Williams or Perry Como that was thought to last forever and played on "high fidelity" equipment can be striking and no amount of digital remastering fixes that. You can't put in what wasn't there to start with. It simply may not have worked for 5.1.

The new version has a more modern or 21st Century feel as the graphics in the opening sequence are very 3D computer graphic oriented (video in 3 and 4 box graphics with computer detailing as borders around the boxes) and the timber of the new score reflects that. And that isn't necessarily a bad thing. It is part of the "update/reboot" of it. I am just glad they kept as much of the original feel of the opening sequence as they did. Lots of homage paid, including the sped up closing shot of the police motorcycle in the streets. This time with the sun setting and not full darkness as in the original. Nice touch. A+ on that one.

I do wish they had more time for the a push/zoom shot into the Ilikai Hotel to Alex O'Loughlin as they did with Jack Lord on the same patio. But again, when you have 30 seconds less, little things like that get cut out and these days, networks don't want to give up the time to long opening sequences when they are taking so much more time for commercials.

All in all, I think for what the producers had to work with and the pressure of legacy, they did pretty good on that opening sequence.

SIDEBAR - In the original opening sequence the wave ran center to left with the maw of the wave from left to right and the title graphic flying out of the maw. In the new version, it is reversed and the new title graphic transitions on a panel in time with the drum beat as if someone is typing the words on a computer. I am sure that wasn't on anyone's radar with the sequence was shot. They were more worried about lighting on the water to get it right, not the direction of the shot on the wave.
post #64 of 216
You can download a iTunes video for free which shows the theme being recorded (interspersed with shots of the show).
post #65 of 216
I was a fan of the original. This new one was pretty good and liked how it all fit in an hour. The new take on the theme song - really liked. Can't get passed a newbie in an elite task force though.
With a few tweaks, I am hoping this will be around for a long time.

Do have one question and not sure if my ears playing tricks.
About 27 minutes (where McGarrett and Williams in the Chevy) and when McGarrett was trying to apologize, it sounded like he made a reference to something from a year ago. it sounded like he said "thats what I was trying to tell you a year ago..."
post #66 of 216
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Originally Posted by Drewdawg View Post

The Venture's track IMHO should be good enough to use.

The Ventures version was a cover, not the original ("CBS Orchestra"), IIRC.
post #67 of 216
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Originally Posted by sethm1 View Post

it sounded like he said "thats what I was trying to tell you a year ago..."

It's called sarcasm. McGarrett was trying to appologize for the incidents at the trailer park and got frustrated with Dano's tirade ...

I hear that all the kids are using it (sarcasm) these days.
post #68 of 216
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Originally Posted by HDTVChallenged View Post

It's called sarcasm. McGarrett was trying to appologize for the incidents at the trailer park and got frustrated with Dano's tirade ...



lol, just drunk.
post #69 of 216
Watched the repeat of the Pilot last night and while I didn't setup a season pass, I did opt to record next weeks episode. All the gun play was a bit much but the HD quality was very good(although I didn't care for the overly saturated colors, I think they call it push?) I'll give it another chance.
post #70 of 216
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I'll give it another chance.

Agreed + 1

post #71 of 216
I wasn't really impressed. Silly banter and over-the-top cartoon action can only go so far. And it's not like this is anything new. Maybe one more episode, although time is tight and I was much more impressed with Blue Bloods.

larry
post #72 of 216
All I want to know is when will AOL show off his sexy body .. It takes place in Hawaii so eventually Steve has to show some skin !!
post #73 of 216
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Originally Posted by taffyrose123 View Post

All I want to know is when will AOL show off his sexy body .. It takes place in Hawaii so eventually Steve has to show some skin !!

Spoken like a true woman!
post #74 of 216
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Originally Posted by foxeng View Post

Spoken like a true woman!




Of course It's the important things that matter
post #75 of 216
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Originally Posted by PooperScooper View Post

I wasn't really impressed. Silly banter and over-the-top cartoon action can only go so far. And it's not like this is anything new. Maybe one more episode, although time is tight and I was much more impressed with Blue Bloods.

larry

So was I, I had the sense I was watching a film while viewing 'Blue Bloods', H50 is, as you say, rather cartoonish and formulaic.
post #76 of 216
Gotta disagree about H50 being cartoonish .
I'll admit I think AOL is a total hottie BUT was verry apprehensive about him being in a remake series since often remakes aren't as compelling as the original BUT actually did enjoy it surprisingly.
I actually prefer the newer version for the most part. The only part I did not like was the whole how Danno got his name - that was just so bad and so not cute at all .
But I do like the chemistry among the cast but hope we don't see Danno crushing on the hawaiin chick who is part of the team !!
But it is too early to tell if H50 has longetivity since often the premiere gets impressive ratings/demos but drops off some in the second so time will tell !!
I also recorded Chase on NBC and quite like that show too though the lead gal always getting the meatier scenes was annoying and hope that changes soon !
But H50 has potential so let's see if TPTB can keep up the good work !!
post #77 of 216
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Originally Posted by taffyrose123 View Post

Of course It's the important things that matter

That blows the men are sexists out of the water for women!
post #78 of 216
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Originally Posted by foxeng View Post

That blows the men are sexists out of the water for women!



I never called any man sexist for commenting on women since women do it all the time with men too
post #79 of 216
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Originally Posted by taffyrose123 View Post

I never called any man sexist for commenting on women since women do it all the time with men too

Glad to hear the fairer sex say that!
post #80 of 216
The opening scene unleashed on my surrounds! Cinematography and audio mix of that scene reminded me of Die Another Day's opening sequence. Verrry nice. Of all the new pilots this the only that had me paying attention from beginning to end. Added to the DVR for sure.
post #81 of 216
Finally got around to watching it, and it was Ok, for me at best. I'm not opposed to violence, but the opening seemed over the top. Those guys weren't terrorists, they were Super Terrorists. They can afford to do a black ops rescue? Come on, I didn't buy that for a minute.

The show might fit the tenner of the times, screw the laws and regulations, just do what you want.
post #82 of 216
Well the only thing that glued me to this show is Grace Park in Bikini/Underwear..

That's it.. LOL
post #83 of 216
Seeing Grace Park and Daniel Day Kim slum it in a show without quality writing after viewing both in shows with the best writing on television, well, this is just painful. The writing here is no better than what Maggie Q has to deal with in NIKITA. Plot holes EVERYWHERE! Laugh out loud stupidity on the part of what the cops do. Oh my God, this is just horrid.

It's a shame because the cast is great. Lots of money is being pumped into this show and clearly it looks gorgeous.

But so what?
post #84 of 216
In the real world, the girlfriend would have been suspect and background checked. But, of course here, she is just assumed the perfect person to give the son to. No questions asked.
post #85 of 216
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Originally Posted by taffyrose123 View Post

All I want to know is when will AOL show off his sexy body .. It takes place in Hawaii so eventually Steve has to show some skin !!

I don't think his "father" ever showed off his sexy body on the original.
post #86 of 216
My favorite scenes have been the banter during the car rides between the 2 detectives believe it or not. I think the chemistry and timing of the 2 leads is great so far.

I definitely am not one who generally likes episodic shows at all, and I usually really dislike any kind of cop procedurals. That's why I am surprised that I continue to like this so far. For how much longer, we will see..
post #87 of 216
I like the characters, but the main storylines themselves I don't care much for. They just throw a bunch of money at the screen, when it would be a lot more interesting if they did some smaller-scale detective work, IMO. Although I get that that's apparently a draw for the younger demo.
post #88 of 216
Slow down, everybody. This was just the pilot! I think it looks promising and probably is one of the best new shows in a pretty dismal crop.
post #89 of 216
I caught the second half of the pilot episode last Monday, & it was pretty good.
Kinda cheesy, but that's the way action-oriented cop shows should be, especially one that takes place in the Island paradise of Hawaii!

Scott Caan did a great job, & the photography was lush & colorful. It should look spectacular when the first season gets released on Blu-Ray & DVD.
post #90 of 216
And I am done. Awful writing. No thinking required show. Not my cup of tea.
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