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post #1501 of 2060
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Originally Posted by gprace View Post

I have the same experience. I solved this by setting the sleep time for "30 minutes" and the pilot light will always go out after this time. Checked with Apple support, but they have no other information.

That drives me crazy, as well.

FWIW, I solved this problem by purchasing a 'Green' surge protector that turns off other outlets when my TV is on standby. Works great for keeping my Apple TV off when I am not using it. It's a little bit of a drag when starting the TV back up - there is a delay as the Apple TV cold boots, but it's tolerable.
post #1502 of 2060
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Originally Posted by gprace View Post


I have the same experience. I solved this by setting the sleep time for "30 minutes" and the pilot light will always go out after this time. Checked with Apple support, but they have no other information.

There is a discrete code to put the aTV to sleep - it is in Harmony's database.

The "problem" is that the aTV can support almost any remote so it is listening for wide range of IR codes and sending an TV IR code, for example, in aTVs general direction will turn it on. I'm not sure whether it actually turns on, or will just process the IR code, but the result is that the pilot light is turned on.
post #1503 of 2060
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Originally Posted by Olbi View Post

There is a discrete code to put the aTV to sleep - it is in Harmony's database.

The "problem" is that the aTV can support almost any remote so it is listening for wide range of IR codes and sending an TV IR code, for example, in aTVs general direction will turn it on. I'm not sure whether it actually turns on, or will just process the IR code, but the result is that the pilot light is turned on.

Thanks. Good to know. I will update my Harmony One.
post #1504 of 2060
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by Funicello View Post

Is there a discrete 'Sleep Now' remote control code? I often find my ATV on and would like to hit one button on my Harmony remote to turn it off.

I'm curious why you want to "turn it off". Not much changes in sleep mode beyond the LED going out and the HDMI output shutting down. It's still sending and accepting Bonjour announcements and, of course, watching the IR port.
post #1505 of 2060
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Originally Posted by Olbi View Post

... sending an TV IR code, for example, in aTVs general direction will turn it on.

I haven't seen this behaviour.
post #1506 of 2060
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Originally Posted by bodosom View Post

I haven't seen this behaviour.

That's because it won't work. You have to have the ATV learn the code. What the ATV can do is learn virtually any remote. It's very neat that way.

Philip
post #1507 of 2060
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Originally Posted by pmcd View Post

That's because it won't work. You have to have the ATV learn the code. What the ATV can do is learn virtually any remote.

I understand (and use) learned remotes. I suppose saying "I don't understand quite what you mean" would have been better than "I haven't seen this behaviour".
post #1508 of 2060
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Originally Posted by Krutsch View Post

That drives me crazy, as well.

FWIW, I solved this problem by purchasing a 'Green' surge protector that turns off other outlets when my TV is on standby. Works great for keeping my Apple TV off when I am not using it. It's a little bit of a drag when starting the TV back up - there is a delay as the Apple TV cold boots, but it's tolerable.

Why bother? The ATV sips electricity as it is... barely a blip. On, it uses hardly anything. In standby mode, it uses even less... I suspect we're talking less than $5 for a year, if that much.
post #1509 of 2060
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Originally Posted by Kalani View Post

Why bother? The ATV sips electricity as it is... barely a blip. On, it uses hardly anything. In standby mode, it uses even less... I suspect we're talking less than $5 for a year, if that much.

+1

I have found just setting it to never sleep and eliminated a couple of issues: 1) delayed loading of metadata after wake up and 2)a couple of times communication with iTunes was lost while sleeping. Since keeping it awake all the time there have been no issues.
post #1510 of 2060
Hey guys! New Apple TV owner here. I've been reading about all this jailbraking and it's definitely peaked my interest. I'm a bit confused concerning all the different versions of Apple TV... I just bought mine yesterday from BB so I assume it's the Apple TV version 3? If so, is this version even possible to jailbreak?
post #1511 of 2060
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Originally Posted by ghostsup View Post

Hey guys! New Apple TV owner here. I've been reading about all this jailbraking and it's definitely peaked my interest. I'm a bit confused concerning all the different versions of Apple TV... I just bought mine yesterday from BB so I assume it's the Apple TV version 3? If so, is this version even possible to jailbreak?

Not yet!
post #1512 of 2060
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Originally Posted by bodosom View Post

I haven't seen this behaviour.

As I said, I don't know whether the aTV actually turns on, but I read somewhere that this is what turns the LED on.
post #1513 of 2060
How can one tell if it is an AppleTV version 2 or 3??
post #1514 of 2060
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Originally Posted by ghostsup View Post

How can one tell if it is an AppleTV version 2 or 3??

If you can do 1080p then you have the new Apple TV
post #1515 of 2060
Well, I just confirmed that it is the new 3rd gen, however I can only go up to 720p in the settings. My TV is a 55" Samsung DLP which has a native res of 1280x720. Is this the reason I can't select 1080p?
post #1516 of 2060
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Originally Posted by ghostsup View Post

How can one tell if it is an AppleTV version 2 or 3??

The part number should be on the bottom:
- ATV2,1 MC572LL/A
- ATV3,1 MD199LL/A
post #1517 of 2060
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Originally Posted by ghostsup View Post

My TV is a 55" Samsung DLP which has a native res of 1280x720. Is this the reason I can't select 1080p?

Effectively yes. There are some subtleties but they're peripheral.
post #1518 of 2060
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Originally Posted by ghostsup View Post

Well, I just confirmed that it is the new 3rd gen, however I can only go up to 720p in the settings. My TV is a 55" Samsung DLP which has a native res of 1280x720. Is this the reason I can't select 1080p?

If you don't have a 1080p set, what's the point of outputting a 1080p signal that has to be scaled down to 720p?
post #1519 of 2060
^^^^ Working on it there bro. New displays cost money you know!
post #1520 of 2060
I think you mistook what Kalani was saying. He's saying that if your tv only supports 720 then there's no sense in selecting 1080 even if it was available, but yes thats why you can't select it.
post #1521 of 2060
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Originally Posted by djc11369 View Post

I think you mistook what Kalani was saying. He's saying that if your tv only supports 720 then there's no sense in selecting 1080 even if it was available, but yes thats why you can't select it.

Bingo.
post #1522 of 2060
Well, for some reason my TV supports 1080, so I was confused. Thanks for the clarification though!
post #1523 of 2060
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Originally Posted by ghostsup View Post

Well, for some reason my TV supports 1080, so I was confused.

As I said there are some subtleties the main one being native 720p displays that accept 1080i (sometimes 1080p) signals.
post #1524 of 2060
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Originally Posted by ghostsup View Post

Well, for some reason my TV supports 1080, so I was confused. Thanks for the clarification though!

In that case, it's a 720p TV that is scaling 1080p signals internally to match the native output, so it can accept a 1080p signal but it doesn't truly offer actual 1080p output ... it has to downrez the video feed to 720p before displaying.

Generally, you'll be better off letting the AppleTV just feed it an appropriate 720p signal in the first place as the quality of a native 720p signal will be better than a downconverted 1080p signal. (Generally... there are exceptions to this, but in your situation I stand by the recommendation to be happy with 720p output from the ATV until you are able to upgrade to a 1080p TV.)

I agree it's odd that the ATV won't let you choose 1080p, if your TV supports it, but perhaps the ATV is smart enough to detect that it's actually native 720p and locks onto that instead of risking you degrade the PQ by choosing the option that would be less optimal.
post #1525 of 2060
Thanks Kalani, My main concern was that I indeed got the ATV3 as opposed to the ATV2 and knowing that the highest res the 2 could produce was 720p and that was all that was showing as my options got me wondering. This was before I confirmed that it was a Version 3 by looking up the model numbers online.

My goal is to purchase a new Samsung LED monitor in the near future... it's just hard to reason with a wife that thinks our DLP "is just fine". I told her that the next time the lamp goes out we're getting a new TV. We'll see how that one pan's out.
post #1526 of 2060
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by Kalani View Post

I agree it's odd that the ATV won't let you choose 1080p, if your TV supports it, but perhaps the ATV is smart enough to detect that it's actually native 720p

HDMI doesn't work like that.
post #1527 of 2060
Just my two cents.
I used to be a big fan of ATV. It was awesome getting all the album art in iTunes all organized and nice looking, streaming to 3 appletvs I had throughout the home. now its a bunch of hodge podge. Nothing is organized, with that firecorellc update, it makes it even worse.. you have movies/tv on the top row, items you purchased, items on your computer and then finally the fire core updates. There is no way my wife can figure out where a movie I put is located if she even wanted to watch one.. its way too complicated! Either its gonna be in the movies purchased, on my computer, or in the fire core media player.. whats up with that?? I'm gonna stick with boxees for now, hopefully apple will clean all this stuff up someday and make it simpler.

Mo
post #1528 of 2060
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Originally Posted by mohanman View Post

Just my two cents.
I used to be a big fan of ATV. It was awesome getting all the album art in iTunes all organized and nice looking, streaming to 3 appletvs I had throughout the home. now its a bunch of hodge podge. Nothing is organized, with that firecorellc update, it makes it even worse.. you have movies/tv on the top row, items you purchased, items on your computer and then finally the fire core updates. There is no way my wife can figure out where a movie I put is located if she even wanted to watch one.. its way too complicated! Either its gonna be in the movies purchased, on my computer, or in the fire core media player.. whats up with that?? I'm gonna stick with boxees for now, hopefully apple will clean all this stuff up someday and make it simpler.

Mo

The ATV GUI is complicated?......Really?
post #1529 of 2060
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Originally Posted by mayhem13 View Post

The ATV GUI is complicated?......Really?

Yes, especially for a wife.
post #1530 of 2060
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by mohanman View Post

There is no way my wife can figure out where a movie I put is located if she even wanted to watch one.. its way too complicated! Either its gonna be in the movies purchased, on my computer, or in the fire core media player.. whats up with that?? I'm gonna stick with boxees for now, hopefully apple will clean all this stuff up someday and make it simpler.

Mo

Apple doesn't have anything to do with FireCore. While the V5 interface may not be suited to everyone the general UI is fairly popular.
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