Apple TV owners' thread. - Page 53

Airport Express should do exactly what you need. AppleTV would also work but you really need a TV connected to see the interface, while AEX has no interface so no problem there. You could run another ATV (once set up on a TV to connect it) "headless" with no interface, if you prefer, since AirPlay "pushes" to the ATV so not 100% essential to work with the interface, especially if you might add a display there in the future, but that's your call.

Yes I thought about add another ATV but my amp just accepts RCA inputs so I started to think in AEX, but I don't see in any specification that is AirPlay compatible. Amazon and apple description just talks about streaming iTunes. And I want to stream more than iTunes, for ex Pandora from my iPhone app.

What do you think?

Airport Express will stream music from other apps than iTunes. Anything that supports AirPlay will work. Just connect the stereo out mini-jack to the RCA inputs using a very common 35mm stereo to RCA jack cable.

Philip

Ok Philip. And do you know if needed any special app to manage the AEX or simply the iPhone will see the AEX like an ATV in AirPlay button?

Thanks!

AEX is fine. As far as streaming stuff from your iPhone, iTunes, etc., it works exactly the same way as it does for the ATV, just no video.

Hi, interesting that about AirTunes an AirPlay, so I must understand that AEX is AirTunes compatible. That is, can send iTunes tunes as is any iOS audio app compatible with "AirPlay"? Ie: pandora, tune in radio, etc?

Thanks!

Hi bodosom,

You seem pretty knowledgeable on airplay. I'm trying to figure out how to stream Ipad videos to my airplay devices (Denon AVR/AppleTV) so I can view them on a big screen. Does the Ipad program I'm streaming from have to have airplay functionality built in? Sounds like it doesn't'. I'm trying to use a program that does not appear to have this functionality. I'm thinking I would need to stream a mirror image of the Ipad screen. Is this possible? I'm trying to stream golf swing videos that will be annotated while watching. Any place that you can recommend where I can become educated on this.

Thanks.

If there's no AirPlay icon on the iPad window, the only way to view it is with mirroring on. I'm pretty sure that you know the AirPlay feature built in to receivers is audio only. Tapping on the Airplay icon will show all connected, comparable devices even if those devices are audio only.

To my knowledge, the iPad application in question has to support AirPlay streaming... many do, but not all. YouTube certainly does, as does the built-in Videos app, of course. And we are, of course, ONLY talking about the AppleTV being the "destination" for video streaming (whether or not the signal later goes through the Denon AVR), as ONLY the AppleTV supports video. (The Denon AVR only supports the audio stream via AirPlay... same with any brand, because Apple hasn't licensed video streaming to anyone yet, only their own product.)

The entire iPad screen can be mirrored on any 1080p TV with an HDMI input, however, using the HDMI adapter and an HDMI cable. Whether or not the app supports AirPlay. Because mirroring is a different function, so it works no matter what... it's just not wireless.

If the iPad app does not support Airplay, then you simply mirror the iPad to your Apple TV. You can do this wirelessly actually.

To the poster who was wondering, are you trying to output audio, video or a particular app? Share the app name and that will give us more insight as to how you can get that app onto your big screen TV.

I haven't tried this but can't certain apps opt out of the mirroring ( like Hulu+)?

philip

Pretty sure that's the case. They can opt out if they want.

That's an advantage of the hard line. No opt-out available for the hardware connection.

Mirroring is completely wireless.

Apple just patented the rumored dynamic touchscreen remote for 'future' applications. Not a lot of details, but it will be able to control iTunes running on a PC and will identify comparable devices on their own.

When mirroring is ON, you see the TV exactly as what shows on the iPad. What do you guys mean apps can opt out of mirroring? I thought mirroring was a function of the iPad iOS5 and the Apple TV. Nothing to do with apps? Maybe we are not talking about the same thing?

For what it's worth, I have never ran into any apps that does not mirror from the iPad to the Apple TV. Or are you guys confusing Mirroring with Airplay?

Who is 'you guys'?....AirPlay and Mirroring are two different things. I just wanted to clear up that mirroring from the iPad is in fact wireless. I use it all the time for content that isn't AirPlay comparable.

Well, that is exactly it. There were comments that apps are opting out of Mirroring. Not sure that is even possible.

The program is called Swingreader HD. It's a golf swing analysis program I use on the Ipad. I'm looking at golf swing videos. I was able to successfully mirror the program using my projector and an Apple TV. I just turned on the mirroring option on the Ipad and "checked" the Apple TV. Picture quality is pretty good, obviously the Ipad screen format is not the same as my 16:9 screen.

The couple of apple programs that I've tried with Airplay functionality built in, like the video viewing program that comes with the Ipad/Iphone, is a better solution. You get a full 16:9 image of the video on the screen and it's sharper. The program that I currently have has to use the mirroring option to display the video which I can then draw on while the video is playing.

So at this point I think I'm good, I'm just looking for another swing analysis program with Airplay built in.

Great. Sounds like you have things under control. As for Airply, only if the app supports it will it give you the nice 16:9 output. Otherwise, it's the ugly iPad resolution. I must imagine the iPad (3) will have better resolution and look better on a widescreen TV?

Try to wirelessly mirror Hulu+.

philip

What is with the 1 line sarcastic comment? Are you saying this no longer works?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hzM1Xfb65Bs

Wasn't trying to be sarcastic at all. It was more of a request than anything else since I haven't tried it. I just wanted to know if it worked since many others claimed it did not. I had read that apps go opt out of AirPlay mirroring.

Sorry if it came across in a snarky way.

Philip

I am simply trying to get this conversation on the right track. I think there is still some confusion. Airplay is NOT Mirroring.

Airplay example: car racing game = Once Airplay is activated, you see the game on your TV but your iPad will show car telemetries (gas, brake, map etc..). 2 different screens.

Mirroring example: Any app (as far as I know including Hulu). What you see on your iPad is what shows up on your TV. If Hulu has Airplay capabilities and based on that video link, I think it does, then you will see Hulu content in widescreen format on your TV and your iPad will show something different on the iPad.

I don't have Hulu, maybe someone who does can chime in. In summary, Airplay is NOT the same as Mirroring.

So for those that say Hulu does not support, Mirroring, do you mean there is no Airplay or no Mirroring at all? Again, based on the video link above, I see Hulu does work with Mirroring. It should. Mirroring is an iOS feature and not app dependent. Airplay on the other hand is app dependent.

From the Apple website, notice the word "Or".

"With AirPlay, you can wirelessly stream what’s on your iPhone (or iPad or iPod touch) to your HDTV and speakers via Apple TV. Or mirror your iPad or iPhone 4S screen. That’s gonna go over big."

No need to get technical. Airplay is used by Apple to describe the sending of music, video and photo to your A/V equipment (but mostly to Apple TV).

To bring this conversation back to the original comment, some users were saying that apps like Hulu does not support Mirroring. I am trying to clarify that Hulu apps may not support Airplay but I am pretty sure no app can opt out of Mirroring. In fact, if Hulu has an apple app, they will support Airplay sooner or later. The benefits of giving their users full HD stream to a TV as opposed to just mirroring is pretty major in my opinion. But let me also clarify that Mirroring Video, the Apple TV does a nice job in scaling to the full screen anyways.

Add On: on the iPad, you can Turn on Airplay without Mirroring. This just shows, there are NOT the same thing.

Who has an iPad and can confirm that Airplay is NOT Mirroring. Getting ridiculous here. Forget what apple is saying in marketing jargon. Double click on the home button, swipe right to see the Airplay mirror menu on the iPad. You will see Airplay is not Mirroring.