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Originally Posted by ccotenj View Post

^^^
hmmm... now THAT is intriguing... as i don't run into the issue running dual band...
at least it works now... smile.gif

Me either.......works flawlessly in both ranges.
post #1802 of 3004
Hulu Plus is now on the Apple TV.

http://www.engadget.com/2012/07/31/hulu-plus-app-live-on-apple-tv/
post #1803 of 3004
thats big news and will excite a lot of folks!
post #1804 of 3004
Does hulu plus have 5.1 audio?
post #1805 of 3004
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Originally Posted by sean_w_smith View Post

thats big news and will excite a lot of folks!

+1. Am anxious to see if the interface makes Hulu+ friendlier.

philip
post #1806 of 3004
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Originally Posted by sean_w_smith View Post

thats big news and will excite a lot of folks!

+1. Am anxious to see if the interface makes Hulu+ friendlier.

philip

Seems to be - here is a hulu+ video showing some GUI.
post #1807 of 3004
Thread Starter 
post #1808 of 3004
Well done speculation.... This is very exciting for ATV owners. Clearly there has been some mindset shift at apple on these Apps.
post #1809 of 3004
I'd be a happy camper if HBO Go and Amazon streaming showed up one day.

I'm not a Hulu+ sub and since you can subscribe using your iTunes account on the Apple TV, does that then limit your Hulu+ access to Apple devices only? If I use my iTunes account can I watch Hulu+ on my Windows PCs and the Xbox 360?
post #1810 of 3004
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Originally Posted by sean_w_smith View Post

Well done speculation.... This is very exciting for ATV owners. Clearly there has been some mindset shift at apple on these Apps.

The article was indeed very interesting. Apple does seem to be inching towards some kind of app model for the ATV. I think they are making sure that the apps that go on there make sense for the unit. This is a problem that Google TV also has. Apps that work well on a tablet don't transfer well to a TV. It's that i/o issue which is a real pain. It would be very nice if Apple would at least allow the apps from its app store onto the ATV, provided they made sense for it. Plex, for example, would be a good candidate. I don't think XBMC would ever find its way there since they bypassed the official video access. Will just have to wait and see. Anyway, something is clearly up. There does seem to be more interest in the ATV now over at Apple. Just not clear where AirPlay fits into all of this. Works great for me from a Mountain Lion Mac when running XBMC or VLC. It really is a bit uncanny. The ATV has 8GB of storage which is more than enough for apps ( same as Sony's new GTV box).

philip
post #1811 of 3004
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Originally Posted by AustinJerry View Post

 

I disabled the 5Ghz network and the issue with iPad streaming seems to have cleared up (al least for the last 24 hours).  Nice recommendation, scl23enn4m3!  I would never have thought to do this.

 

Following up on this issue--since disabling the 5 Ghz band, the ATV connection has remained stable.  On a side note, while I was working on the ATV issue, my Oppo BDP-93 was also having trouble connecting to the wireless network.  The Oppo wireless adapter only supports the 2.4 Ghz band, but since upgrading to the Linksys EA3500, the Oppo absolutely fails to connect when the 5 Ghz band is enabled.  I called Oppo support, and they acknowledged that they are working on reported issues with the EA3500 and EA4500 dual-band routers from Linksys.  In my case, disabling the 5 Ghz band allowed the Oppo to connect wirelessly again.

 

I mention this, which is slightly OT, to alert anyone who might be using these routers with an ATV.

post #1812 of 3004
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Originally Posted by pmcd View Post

The article was indeed very interesting. Apple does seem to be inching towards some kind of app model for the ATV. I think they are making sure that the apps that go on there make sense for the unit. This is a problem that Google TV also has. Apps that work well on a tablet don't transfer well to a TV. It's that i/o issue which is a real pain. It would be very nice if Apple would at least allow the apps from its app store onto the ATV, provided they made sense for it. Plex, for example, would be a good candidate. I don't think XBMC would ever find its way there since they bypassed the official video access. Will just have to wait and see. Anyway, something is clearly up. There does seem to be more interest in the ATV now over at Apple. Just not clear where AirPlay fits into all of this. Works great for me from a Mountain Lion Mac when running XBMC or VLC. It really is a bit uncanny. The ATV has 8GB of storage which is more than enough for apps ( same as Sony's new GTV box).
philip

The ATV has been both an intriguing and frustrating device for me. I see a lot of promise in the device, but I'm sure Apple only sees it for what it can offer to the revenue stream. I bought an ATV2 because I was fascinated with it, and confess I even bought an ATV3 afterward just to see how they would handle 1080. At a $99 price point, it was an inexpensive novelty to find out, and I just stuck the ATV2 in my son's room for use there.

I have been frustrated of late over the lack of functionality of the ATV apps, and some of them are almost ludicrous in their inabilities. I have an MLB.tv subscription, and if I stream the game to my ATV3, I can watch the game just fine. If I watch it on my iPod Touch or my iPhone, I can not only see the game, but also watch video highlights here and there, even after the game. Thoase never become available from the ATV app that was written by MLB. I can take those same highlights and watch them from the Touch and even stream them to the ATV via AirPlay, but not watch them from the ATV directly. NBC put out their Olympics Live app for the iPod/iPad, but no such thing ever showed up for the ATV, and the NBC app didn't even make the AirPlay option available.

I do wish there was an app dev kit for the ATV that was more freely available, and that the shackles would be taken off and see more innovation there. I suspect, on Apple's part, that the hope is that the ATV is just a $99 add-on to an iPad or MacBook Pro, and that anything we want to watch this way we'll just stream to our other Apple and watch with screen mirroring, but the little hockey puck itself just has so much promise, and I do wish we'd see more movement in this space.
post #1813 of 3004
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Is there a Mac equivalent? I've been using MP4tools for a while, but it's a little unstable and doesn't work well with iTunes (or at all).
I've been using a PS3 for a while, transferring the converted MKV files (now M4V) to my PS3's hard drive. I've been thinking about getting rid of it and getting an Apple TV since I don't play games much anymore. If I convert the MKV files to M4V like usual, will they stream well enough over Wi-Fi to the Apple TV? I've been considering a Roku as well, just for the USB drive. But if the performance is good enough with the Apple TV (streaming a movie from a wireless Macbook Pro to an Apple TV that's connected via ethernet) then I'll go with that, since the AirPlay functionality could be neat too.

Subler is the best.
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Hi folks, I've been having an issue for several months and am at my wits end. Appreciate if anyone has any ideas.

I've had an Apple TV 2 for a while now and it's jailbroken with ATVFlash (Firecore). I normally have it hooked up to a Denon AVR-1912 through HDMI and have never had any issues with it. Previous to that, I had it hooked up directly into a Panasonic plasma, also through HDMI. Again, no issues. Recently, I got an NAD T758 in a home theater room and have been moving the same Apple TV to the home theater room when I want to watch a movie there. When hooked up the NAD, I have all sorts of issues. 50% of the time, it's fine. Otherwise, the problems I get are either a purple tinge (one color missing), or no sound (video fine).

Here's what I've done to trouble shoot.

- Tried a different HDMI cable, no difference
- Tried plugging directly into projector in the same room, everything works fine
- When I get purple screen or no sound, I turn the projector off and on again, which usually fixes it. Off and on again, one of the problems comes back. At one point, I turned it off/on about 15 times and the problems intermittently come back / go away.
- Same as above, but instead of off/on, switched source and then switched back and get the same results as above
- Unplugged HDMI and plugged back in, same results as above
- Unplugged power from Apple TV and plugged back in, same results as above
- Once the issue is fixed, it never comes back during play, only comes back when something is powered off/on again

So there's definitely some sort of HDCP or handshake issue going on. Given that the Apple TV has worked everywhere else without a problem, I assumed it was the receiver. Took the receiver in for repair, was tested and came back saying that the receiver works fine, that it's the Apple TV and probably the jailbreak.

So I'm stuck with this very annoying problem. I really have no idea what the issue is. I don't want to restore the Apple TV, because jailbreaking again with all my settings will be a huge PIA and I don't believe that's the issue. Not sure what other options I have.
post #1815 of 3004
My ATV 2 stopped functioning during a software update. I searched on-line, and found guidance to connect it to iTunes to restore it. The restore process failed in the end with a "The Apple TV could not be restored" message. However, I decided to re-connected it, and it started right up. I went through the setup process, but now the optical output (used for zone 2) is working intermittently. The HDMI works fine, however.

Should I bring it to the Apple Store? Try connecting it to iTunes again? Sell it on ebay, since they are selling like hotcakes since the ATV 3 has not yet been jailbroken.

Thanks for any input.

Mark
post #1816 of 3004
@Mark

Connect it to iTunes again. Download the ATV OS to your computer and do the restore from the local file. You might want to try a different cable or computer. Sometimes it takes a few times to restore it. Do a normal restore of the OS.

philip
post #1817 of 3004
Is a problem-free jailbroken ATV a rarity?
post #1818 of 3004
not for me
post #1819 of 3004
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Originally Posted by pmcd View Post

@Mark
Connect it to iTunes again. Download the ATV OS to your computer and do the restore from the local file. You might want to try a different cable or computer. Sometimes it takes a few times to restore it. Do a normal restore of the OS.
philip

Thanks, I will give it a shot.

Mark
post #1820 of 3004
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Thanks, I will give it a shot.
Mark

Now I cannot even get the iMac to detect the ATV with either iTunes or Finder. I am just going to bring it to the Apple Store and see if they can do something.

Mark
post #1821 of 3004
Hi,

I'm new here. I have a PC with XP on it for my itunes, I have a Sony Bravia Home Theater that I can get to play my itunes music through Apple TV, and a home network. I want to see if it is possible to play my Sony SA-NS400 wireless network speakers through the system. I can make the Sony speakers work using Windows media play instead of itunes, but it doesn't work well, in terms of finding music.

Any suggestions. Thanks much

Hugh
post #1822 of 3004
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Originally Posted by giomania View Post

My ATV 2 stopped functioning during a software update. I searched on-line, and found guidance to connect it to iTunes to restore it. The restore process failed in the end with a "The Apple TV could not be restored" message. However, I decided to re-connected it, and it started right up. I went through the setup process, but now the optical output (used for zone 2) is working intermittently. The HDMI works fine, however.
Should I bring it to the Apple Store? Try connecting it to iTunes again? Sell it on ebay, since they are selling like hotcakes since the ATV 3 has not yet been jailbroken.
Thanks for any input.
Mark

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Originally Posted by pmcd View Post

@Mark
Connect it to iTunes again. Download the ATV OS to your computer and do the restore from the local file. You might want to try a different cable or computer. Sometimes it takes a few times to restore it. Do a normal restore of the OS.
philip

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Originally Posted by giomania View Post

Now I cannot even get the iMac to detect the ATV with either iTunes or Finder. I am just going to bring it to the Apple Store and see if they can do something.
Mark

I brought the ATV to the Genius Bar at the Apple Store, and they were able to restore it just fine by using the regular procedure. Argh! mad.gif

However, they were unable to test the optical output, so they told me to bring it back if it did not work, and they would replace it, even though the ATV was out of warranty!

When I got it home, connected, and set up, the optical output worked the first time I tried, and then quit working after that. This is the same sequence of events that occurred before, so I took them up on their offer, went back to the store, and got an ATV 3 as a replacement for the ATV 2. With such great customer service, I threw them a bone and purchased the $30 Apple Care. I used to work at Tweeter, so I know that extended warranties are high-margin items, but hey, they took care of me.

Mark
post #1823 of 3004
Thread Starter 
AirPlay (well AirTunes) can be confusing when you send output to the Denon 4311 you're watching the ATV on since it immediately shifts to the "AirPlay" screen.

And when Apples you can reorder the icons on the second "page" they mean the second "row". The icons beneath the Movies .... Settings row.
post #1824 of 3004
I'm thinking about getting an ATV for my bedroom so we can watch video purchases from iTunes. We also would like to listen to music that has been put on my Netgear NAS Ultra4 most of which are .flac files. We are able to listen to them
using iTunes on Windows or MacOS by selecting the "iTunes Server" in iTunes. The NAS has the iTunes Server builtin.

Question is, will the iTunes app on the ATV work with this as well??

Thanks,
Eddy
post #1825 of 3004
Afraid not, your limited to either iTunes via computer or the iTunes match service which I assume is the app your talking about. The service stores your music on Apples iCloud and costs $25 a year. The Synology NAS has a music app that utilizes the Airplay function of the ATV but I don't see where Netgear has anything like that. Even then it requires you to have access to a computer to control it or using the DS Audio app on an iPod/iPad/iPhone/Android device.
post #1826 of 3004
I enjoy having my ATV, and I continue to try to live as much as possible in the Apple ecosystem to manage and view my video "stuff". I continue to use MakeMKV / Handbrake / MetaX (I'm on Win7 for the computer side of things), but my biggest issue seems to be what I consider to be the music-centric tagging notions within iTunes. I'm wondering what others do within the iTunes space to organize their video content. (No, I don't want to convert to something else; I want to figure a way to make this work as much as possible.)

I finally ran into a movie where I'm actually interested in converting and retaining the special features. Most every other time, I've just wanted to convert the movie and leave the extras to be viewed from the disc on the off chance I ever want to watch them again. When others decide to keep such things, do they organize and associate them by tagging, or through some naming convention?

When converting a series of movies or shows, I found at one point that some of the fields that ought to be numeric instead sort as though they were alphanumeric, so a sequence of 1, 11, 12, ..., 19, 2, 20, 21, ... occurs - or did for me last time I tried it.

Playlists feel like they ought to be the answer, but they seem to be a bit of a wrestling match when it comes to video, rather than feeling smooth and straightforward for music. I have even tried playing with Genres to get around some of the sense of limitation. But Playlists gather things in the same place, but don't always seem to give the right outcome for sequencing in the same way iTunes quite naturally handles Artist / Album / Track Number for music.

In general, I just feel like I'm arm wrestling the "organization" app for video, just to be able to happily browse and select it with a remote that only has one functional button when it comes to finding things. Rather than wrestle with it eight or nine different ways, I thought I'd ask how others have solved it within the iTunes / ATV environment.

Again, I'm really not interested in the "jailbrake it / get NAS / switch to Media Server" direction right now. I continue to want to explore just how this best works in its intended environment. Thanks.
post #1827 of 3004
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Originally Posted by johnwjames5 View Post

I enjoy having my ATV, and I continue to try to live as much as possible in the Apple ecosystem to manage and view my video "stuff". I continue to use MakeMKV / Handbrake / MetaX (I'm on Win7 for the computer side of things), but my biggest issue seems to be what I consider to be the music-centric tagging notions within iTunes. I'm wondering what others do within the iTunes space to organize their video content. (No, I don't want to convert to something else; I want to figure a way to make this work as much as possible.)
I finally ran into a movie where I'm actually interested in converting and retaining the special features. Most every other time, I've just wanted to convert the movie and leave the extras to be viewed from the disc on the off chance I ever want to watch them again. When others decide to keep such things, do they organize and associate them by tagging, or through some naming convention?
When converting a series of movies or shows, I found at one point that some of the fields that ought to be numeric instead sort as though they were alphanumeric, so a sequence of 1, 11, 12, ..., 19, 2, 20, 21, ... occurs - or did for me last time I tried it.
Playlists feel like they ought to be the answer, but they seem to be a bit of a wrestling match when it comes to video, rather than feeling smooth and straightforward for music. I have even tried playing with Genres to get around some of the sense of limitation. But Playlists gather things in the same place, but don't always seem to give the right outcome for sequencing in the same way iTunes quite naturally handles Artist / Album / Track Number for music.
In general, I just feel like I'm arm wrestling the "organization" app for video, just to be able to happily browse and select it with a remote that only has one functional button when it comes to finding things. Rather than wrestle with it eight or nine different ways, I thought I'd ask how others have solved it within the iTunes / ATV environment.
Again, I'm really not interested in the "jailbrake it / get NAS / switch to Media Server" direction right now. I continue to want to explore just how this best works in its intended environment. Thanks.

If you are going to stay in the Apple eco-system (i.e. the Walled Garden), all of the above is easy. For TV shows, simply add the 'Show', 'Season Number' and 'Episode Number' tags that match the show's real metadata - you can skip 'Episode ID' if you'd like, which is little more than the 'name' of the episode and isn't used for sorting. iTunes will then organize your shows into seasons, as if you'd downloaded them from the iTunes store. MetaX makes all of this easy, but you can also do it right in iTunes after the fact.

For movies and their 'extras', you need to make sure all of videos have the same 'Album' text. For example, Iron Man has the original movie (Iron Man) and another video which is extras, called 'Iron Man - iTunes Extras'. If you want to control the sort order, simply go back into properties in iTunes and edit the 'Sort Name' field under the 'Sorting' tab. For example, I have 007: Dr. No as the title and the 'Sort Name' as '007-01' so that my James Bond movies sort chronologically.

BTW, if you can leave your PC behind, think about switching to iVI Pro as a much better meta-tagging tool for iTunes movies/TV shows on the Mac.
post #1828 of 3004
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Originally Posted by Hugh R View Post

Hi,
I'm new here. I have a PC with XP on it for my itunes, I have a Sony Bravia Home Theater that I can get to play my itunes music through Apple TV, and a home network. I want to see if it is possible to play my Sony SA-NS400 wireless network speakers through the system. I can make the Sony speakers work using Windows media play instead of itunes, but it doesn't work well, in terms of finding music.
Any suggestions. Thanks much
Hugh

I am in a similar situation as you. As far as I understand, however, you can only output to the Sony SA-NS400 using DNLA. In your case, that means only your Sony Bravia or the free Network Audio Remote app (which, is very poor in terms of finding music), which can access iTunes on a NAS/server.

If you've come to a different solution, I'd love to hear it.

Personally, I got my SA-NS400 for $50 - at this point, I'm thinking about just getting an Airport Express and just using the SANS essentially as a powered speaker for a total cost of $140 for a good-sounding airplay speaker that will obviously work with iTunes.

The SA-NS500 is also airplay compatible, meaning you could use it with iTunes, but it's ~$300
post #1829 of 3004
Hi. I have just purchased an ATV3 and I have 2 Samsung LCD TVs both 1080p. No matter what HDMI cable I use or which TV it is hooked up to I get signal loss, purple tint, and sound drop every 5 - 15 seconds. The main TV i am trying to get it to work on is a samsung LN52B630.

Has anyone experienced anything like this before?

thanks in advance. Scott
post #1830 of 3004
Perhaps you got a defective ATV3...it happens. If you tried multiple TV's with different cables then the common denominator is the ATV.
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