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post #1861 of 2062
12/14/12 at 2:27pm
Go into Apple TV and check signal strength. Are you on 5ghz or 2.4ghz? Try the other if your router supports it. I leaning towards a wifi signal issue. Reboot router.
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post #1862 of 2062
12/14/12 at 4:23pm
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Load computer stuff onto the ATV3? Please fill me in, I haven't read anything about that yet.
As far as Airplay, while it's very cool tech, personally up to this point I find it gimmicky. Maybe someday I'll find it more useful on it.

I thought I'd never use it till I watched the masters golf tournament live via Internet when it was not being broadcast yet. From my iPhone to atv to my classe ssp-800 tomy 60" kuro plasma. Heaven if you love golf like I do
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post #1863 of 2062
12/14/12 at 4:39pm
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I thought I'd never use it till I watched the masters golf tournament live via Internet when it was not being broadcast yet. From my iPhone to atv to my classe ssp-800 tomy 60" kuro plasma. Heaven if you love golf like I do

There are many of these moments actually. Airplay can open up lots of fun opportunities when it comes to video, photos and music.
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post #1864 of 2062
12/14/12 at 9:06pm
My units started doing this too (3 of em) after the latest update. Have faith, report the issues and I'm sure Apple will have it worked out in the next update release. BTW I hear around that the only ones experiencing this issue are those who haven't updated to iTunes 11.....which I have yet to do myself. Inevitable I'm sure but I'm just not ready to redo my library again.mad.gif
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post #1865 of 2062
12/14/12 at 9:36pm
I heard iTunes 11 lost powerful search functionality. Is that right? For instance, can you search by artist or album name? Heard you cannot and that just won't cut it for classical music (or any other music) for that matter.
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post #1866 of 2062
12/14/12 at 9:37pm
I had updated iTunes prior to hooking up the Apple TV. I'll figure it out at some point. It just sucks in the meantime.
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post #1867 of 2062
12/15/12 at 4:06am
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I heard iTunes 11 lost powerful search functionality. Is that right? For instance, can you search by artist or album name? Heard you cannot and that just won't cut it for classical music (or any other music) for that matter.
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post #1868 of 2062
12/15/12 at 4:24am
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I had updated iTunes prior to hooking up the Apple TV. I'll figure it out at some point. It just sucks in the meantime.

Understood Tre.....this Is about the third time since i started with an iTunes network that functionality dropped to an all time low. I kick and scream and then, it gets fixed. I think of it as growing pains since Apple is improving and adding with each update.
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post #1869 of 2062
12/15/12 at 5:27am
@Tre74,

FWIW, earlier this year I replaced my wireless router with a dual-band router and immediately started having problems keeping the ATV connected. After a couple of weeks of frustration, I found out that by disabling the 5Ghz network, the ATV connectivity issues disappeared. Since most of my wireless devices only use the 2.4Ghz network, I found that this was an acceptable workaround. My ATV connection has been solid ever since.
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post #1870 of 2062
12/15/12 at 1:12pm
Any AirParrot users out there? Just wanting to know how well it works with PC's running Win 7. Would like the ability to mirror the media PC and the other one in the house. Media PC has iTunes and airplay, the other PC will not be assimilated.
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post #1871 of 2062
12/17/12 at 11:33am
does anyone have a jailbroken apple tv? what are the pros and cons?

im looking to get a streamer to take the place of another device that might be biting the bullet. im trying to get something that will decode anything i throw at it
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post #1872 of 2062
12/17/12 at 3:56pm
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does anyone have a jailbroken apple tv? what are the pros and cons?
im looking to get a streamer to take the place of another device that might be biting the bullet. im trying to get something that will decode anything i throw at it

An Apple TV is limited even jail broken, besides the fact that the current generation can't be yet. If you want something that will decode anything check out the Mede8er products. Even the Pivos Xios would be a better option over an Apple TV.
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post #1873 of 2062
12/17/12 at 7:13pm
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does anyone have a jailbroken apple tv? what are the pros and cons?
im looking to get a streamer to take the place of another device that might be biting the bullet. im trying to get something that will decode anything i throw at it

Think you need to be more specific about what you want to stream or playback. I use a ATV 2 JB with bbc iplayer. Fantastic.

But if you are looking to playback 1080p MKVs then forget it. Atv2 simply doesn't have the horsepower.
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post #1874 of 2062
12/18/12 at 10:14am
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Originally Posted by RAVEN56706 View Post

does anyone have a jailbroken apple tv? what are the pros and cons?
I don't believe there are any advantages. You should buy something that does what you want out of the box.
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im looking to get a streamer to take the place of another device that might be biting the bullet. im trying to get something that will decode anything i throw at it
"something that will decode anything" doesn't exist. You should make a list of formats you're interested in and then check the general purpose device threads or perhaps start a new thread.

The ATV is intended for Apple users with simple (e.g. handled with Handbrake) needs. It's an exercise in frustration to try to do otherwise.
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post #1875 of 2062
12/18/12 at 11:11am
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I don't believe there are any advantages. You should buy something that does what you want out of the box.
"something that will decode anything" doesn't exist. You should make a list of formats you're interested in and then check the general purpose device threads or perhaps start a new thread.
The ATV is intended for Apple users with simple (e.g. handled with Handbrake) needs. It's an exercise in frustration to try to do otherwise.

There is a massive advantage if you want to run XBMC on ATV2 that is Jailbroken. With the ATV3 being hinted that JB is coming, and when XBMC is made to run on it, watch out. ATV3 is much more powerful than the ATV2 right? Many users have reported streaming 1080p content on the ATV2 and it will on the fly output as 720p over Wifi.

ATV is meant to work with Apple products no doubt about it. When Jailbroken, it becomes more.

If you don't like to tinker / JB, ATV is not for you... unless you want to use it within the Apple ecosystem.
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post #1876 of 2062
12/18/12 at 11:16am
I would definitely love to try a JB ATV3 biggrin.gif
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post #1877 of 2062
12/18/12 at 12:06pm
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If you don't like to tinker / JB, ATV is not for you... unless you want to use it within the Apple ecosystem.
This has been discussed previously. It's not entirely correct to say your choices are the Apple "ecosystem" or spending time trying to modify an ATV.

But if you want a general purpose media streamer (or just to run XBMC) there are better choices than an ATV. It won't hurt Apple's feelings if you buy a PCH, Dune, WD Live or any of a seemingly infinite number of alternatives.

Personally I'd rather spend time enjoying my media library rather than spend time on ancillary tasks (with the exception of ripping the rare CD) but we all have our druthers and in my dotage I've decided convenience is worth more than (potential) flexibility.
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post #1878 of 2062
12/18/12 at 3:37pm
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Originally Posted by bodosom View Post

This has been discussed previously. It's not entirely correct to say your choices are the Apple "ecosystem" or spending time trying to modify an ATV.
But if you want a general purpose media streamer (or just to run XBMC) there are better choices than an ATV. It won't hurt Apple's feelings if you buy a PCH, Dune, WD Live or any of a seemingly infinite number of alternatives.
Personally I'd rather spend time enjoying my media library rather than spend time on ancillary tasks (with the exception of ripping the rare CD) but we all have our druthers and in my dotage I've decided convenience is worth more than (potential) flexibility.

That is exactly what I was saying. "If you don't like to tinker / JB, ATV is not for you... unless you want to use it within the Apple ecosystem." I am not addressing anything about a general media streamer. Was responding to a @bodosom who said a JB ATV has no advantages. I disagree.
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post #1879 of 2062
12/18/12 at 4:53pm
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That is exactly what I was saying. "If you don't like to tinker / JB, ATV is not for you... unless you want to use it within the Apple ecosystem." I am not addressing anything about a general media streamer. Was responding to a @bodosom who said a JB ATV has no advantages. I disagree.

For most, not all, the problem comes down to wanting to play mkv files. If that's your aim then the ATV is not for you ( though transcoding takes a minute using iFlicks, iVI, etc...). The so-called Apple ecosystem is not as closed as some would have you believe. Sure it doesn't support legacy codecs. It shouldn't given that you want to have some reasonable standards. It's not as though any other major player is supporting every codec in the world. Most purchases seem to be mp4 so why bother with mkv?

You can pretty well do anything you want with an ATV. What you can't do is easily stream from questionable sites, play mkv files. For people with iDevices it is far more flexible than say a Roku. What a JB gets you is XBMC/Plex. What many want is XBMC, especially for some of the AddONs.

I guess I am questioning the need for a JB at this point. You can do a lot with the ATV3 as is. Moreover it has a great Netflix client and a Hulu+ client which finally makes sense out of that disorganized site. You also get iTunes streaming and most importantly AirPlay.

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post #1880 of 2062
12/18/12 at 6:04pm
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For most, not all, the problem comes down to wanting to play mkv files. If that's your aim then the ATV is not for you ( though transcoding takes a minute using iFlicks, iVI, etc...).
philip

The Air Video app does it on the fly. Quite well too!
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post #1881 of 2062
12/18/12 at 8:19pm
Updated iTunes to 11.0.1. Airplay actually working..... right now anyway.
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post #1882 of 2062
12/18/12 at 9:48pm
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The Air Video app does it on the fly. Quite well too!

Spoke with a few developers who created these streaming apps. They only support stereo audio. They do not have access to the engine that Apple uses for AirPlay. Don't know the technicality but I needed to know and asked. No DD5.1 / DTS at least not yet.
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post #1883 of 2062
12/19/12 at 3:26am
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The Air Video app does it on the fly. Quite well too!

So does Plex, and it provides metadata and better audio.They are basically doing the similar things. Moving the codecs into an m4v container. I agree that AirVideo is very nice, but that doesn't solve the AppleTV issue. You either need your media in m4v form or use AirPlay from some Mac or iDevice to the Apple TV.

Perhaps an app store will come to the ATV when the pieces are all in place. That would certainly be interesting.

philip
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post #1884 of 2062
12/19/12 at 5:14am
It solves what you asked and I quoted - " problem comes down to wanting to play mkv files"
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post #1885 of 2062
12/19/12 at 5:26am
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@Tre74,
FWIW, earlier this year I replaced my wireless router with a dual-band router and immediately started having problems keeping the ATV connected. After a couple of weeks of frustration, I found out that by disabling the 5Ghz network, the ATV connectivity issues disappeared. Since most of my wireless devices only use the 2.4Ghz network, I found that this was an acceptable workaround. My ATV connection has been solid ever since.

have been experimenting with this and dual band router (Apple Airport Extreme). I choose a different tactic. Changed the channel on my 2.4GHZ to a fixed channel 1. My 5GHZ is channel 153, I think. Was testing last night and this seemed to fix the throughput with the wifi router. Not sure why there was problems with wifi connections before making this change. have locked in the channels for wifi 2.4ghz and 5ghz. Many freinds are mentioning that wifi routers are susceptable to a lot more inetrference than people realize, and you have to tweek-adjust them to get optimal functionality.
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post #1886 of 2062
12/19/12 at 5:30am
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Originally Posted by RAVEN56706 View Post

does anyone have a jailbroken apple tv? what are the pros and cons?
im looking to get a streamer to take the place of another device that might be biting the bullet. im trying to get something that will decode anything i throw at it

I had a jailbroken appletv 2 for a few years. It is definately worth it to run XBMC off it. With XBMC you have the flexability to do anything with setups for streaming, or playback. But then you need to learn how to tweek XBMC.

Other than that, can not see the point of jailbreaking it. Except if you just like to customize the frontend.

Switched from an apple tv 2 to an HTPC and never looked back. (untrue I did look back, and sometimes think of getting one again, but still have not had a reason to).
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post #1887 of 2062
12/19/12 at 8:38am
Since I'm getting sucked into the Apple ecosystem more and more (iPhones, iPad, MacBook), I'm thinking about getting rid of my Netgear NeoTV550 and switching to an AppleTV for streaming purposes.

Currently all my BluRays are ripped to movie only ISO, so it is my understanding that I will have to convert all of these to mp4. Is there any free software that does this (BDISO->MP4) directly w/o intermediate steps, or do I need to buy something like DVDFab.

I have all my content stored on a Netgear ReadyNAS, but it is my understanding that I have to have iTunes open to use the AppleTV. No streaming directly from the ReadyNAS. If iTunes is open on my MacBook, does it actually stream from the NAS to my MacBook to the ATV, or does it go directly from the NAS to the ATV, and just use iTunes for the location information? My ATV would be hardwired, so I'd like to minimize the WiFi. If I start streaming with iTunes open and someone is using the MacBook and shuts the lid, will the streaming stop?

I have no real interest in buying an ATV2 and jailbreaking.
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post #1888 of 2062
12/19/12 at 9:45am
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Since I'm getting sucked into the Apple ecosystem more and more (iPhones, iPad, MacBook), I'm thinking about getting rid of my Netgear NeoTV550 and switching to an AppleTV for streaming purposes.
Currently all my BluRays are ripped to movie only ISO, so it is my understanding that I will have to convert all of these to mp4. Is there any free software that does this (BDISO->MP4) directly w/o intermediate steps, or do I need to buy something like DVDFab.

Handbrake, it's free and has an ATV preset so it's pretty easy to do. Forced subtitles are a little more effort. It's been a while but I believe you need to mount the ISO first using one of the free virtual drive programs such as AnyDVD's Virtual Clonedrive.
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I have all my content stored on a Netgear ReadyNAS, but it is my understanding that I have to have iTunes open to use the AppleTV. No streaming directly from the ReadyNAS. If iTunes is open on my MacBook, does it actually stream from the NAS to my MacBook to the ATV, or does it go directly from the NAS to the ATV, and just use iTunes for the location information? My ATV would be hardwired, so I'd like to minimize the WiFi. If I start streaming with iTunes open and someone is using the MacBook and shuts the lid, will the streaming stop?
I have no real interest in buying an ATV2 and jailbreaking.

If you shut the lid the movie stops. I'm not entirely certain if the stream passes through iTunes but the link between iTunes and the ATV needs to be maintained.
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post #1889 of 2062
12/19/12 at 10:53am
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It solves what you asked and I quoted - " problem comes down to wanting to play mkv files"

That quote was in the context of the Apple TV. It doesn't solve that, at least directly.

philip
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post #1890 of 2062
12/19/12 at 11:02am
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Originally Posted by browerjs View Post

Since I'm getting sucked into the Apple ecosystem more and more (iPhones, iPad, MacBook), I'm thinking about getting rid of my Netgear NeoTV550 and switching to an AppleTV for streaming purposes.
Currently all my BluRays are ripped to movie only ISO, so it is my understanding that I will have to convert all of these to mp4. Is there any free software that does this (BDISO->MP4) directly w/o intermediate steps, or do I need to buy something like DVDFab.
I have all my content stored on a Netgear ReadyNAS, but it is my understanding that I have to have iTunes open to use the AppleTV. No streaming directly from the ReadyNAS. If iTunes is open on my MacBook, does it actually stream from the NAS to my MacBook to the ATV, or does it go directly from the NAS to the ATV, and just use iTunes for the location information? My ATV would be hardwired, so I'd like to minimize the WiFi. If I start streaming with iTunes open and someone is using the MacBook and shuts the lid, will the streaming stop?
I have no real interest in buying an ATV2 and jailbreaking.

This is really a great question. It's been brought up a few times in these threads. I do this all the time and my guess is that it goes directly from the ReadyNAS to the ATV. The reason I say that is that you can have a few low powered PC which might have a hard time playing certain files that the ATV3 could, yet the ATV3 plays them fine as long as iTunes is running on that PC. So I think it's only using itunes for location information. It would be nice to have a definitive answer to this question. It keeps coming up. A similar issue comes up when AirPlaying to an ATV from an iPhone.

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