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Originally Posted by AustinJerry View Post

^ Well, I have HBO GO working on the iPad, streaming to ATV using AirPlay.  But I thought I could eliminate the iPad and access content directly from the ATV.  Am I mistaken?

HBOGO is rumored to be coming to the ATV this year, but for now you have to use a mobile device.

 

I guess I am just confused, because I thought the presence of HBO in the TV Shows section of ATV was the same thing as HBO GO.  No problem, I'll use the iPad app for now.  Thanks for the responses.

post #2012 of 3001
HBO Go via AirPlay: Picture Quality.

Just joined AVS recently after purchasing a PT-AE8000U projector. But I have also been a long-time Apple TV user and thought I would chime in with some observations about the new AirPlay support on HBO Go.

First, I am thrilled they finally added AirPlay to the HBO Go app. I get HBO via DirecTV, but DTV's UI and mechanics for on-demand content is slow and cumbersome. It is much more enjoyable to browse using the iPad app and then just shoot the video to the big screen. And I don't have to delete downloaded episodes from my DVR afterwards.

I was curious, though, about the picture quality of video streamed via HBO Go/AirPlay vs video downloaded via DirecTV. Is it the same video file? If not, is one noticeably better than the other?

Turns out the answers are no, and yes. I watched an episode of Game of Thrones (The North Remembers) via both DirecTV download and HBO Go/AirPlay streaming, and input switched between them to see if I could pick up on differences. It wasn't an exhaustive study, but there was only one scene where I could see a difference. It was a wide shot of Winterfell showing landscape, horizon, and a lot of sky. The DirecTV version showed a smooth gradient in the sky while the HBO Go/AirPlay version show a little bit of banding. But for the most part, both pictures were quite sharp, and I could not tell the difference. But edge goes to DirecTV at the moment.

Anyone else try this?
post #2013 of 3001
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Originally Posted by AustinJerry View Post

I guess I am just confused, because I thought the presence of HBO in the TV Shows section of ATV was the same thing as HBO GO.  No problem, I'll use the iPad app for now.  Thanks for the responses.

That's right, HBO episodes for sale in iTunes is not the same thing as HBO Go. The "Movies" and "TV Shows" sections on your Apple TV are gateways to the iTunes Store. Everything in the iTunes Store costs money on a per-episode basis. It's for people who don't have HBO but would still like to pay to rent/purchase some shows. Generally, iTunes will not have the latest season of HBO shows available for purchase.

HBO Go is available for HBO subscribers (via your cable/sat company), and gives you access to virtually the entire HBO back catalog, including the most recent episodes, at no additional cost. For that, currently you need the iPad/iPhone app. The new functionality last week is that you can now shoot the video to your big TV via AirPlay/Apple TV, whereas before last week, you could only watch on the iPad or iPhone itself.
post #2014 of 3001
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Originally Posted by Xank View Post

HBO Go via AirPlay: Picture Quality.

Just joined AVS recently after purchasing a PT-AE8000U projector. But I have also been a long-time Apple TV user and thought I would chime in with some observations about the new AirPlay support on HBO Go.

First, I am thrilled they finally added AirPlay to the HBO Go app. I get HBO via DirecTV, but DTV's UI and mechanics for on-demand content is slow and cumbersome. It is much more enjoyable to browse using the iPad app and then just shoot the video to the big screen. And I don't have to delete downloaded episodes from my DVR afterwards.

I was curious, though, about the picture quality of video streamed via HBO Go/AirPlay vs video downloaded via DirecTV. Is it the same video file? If not, is one noticeably better than the other?

Turns out the answers are no, and yes. I watched an episode of Game of Thrones (The North Remembers) via both DirecTV download and HBO Go/AirPlay streaming, and input switched between them to see if I could pick up on differences. It wasn't an exhaustive study, but there was only one scene where I could see a difference. It was a wide shot of Winterfell showing landscape, horizon, and a lot of sky. The DirecTV version showed a smooth gradient in the sky while the HBO Go/AirPlay version show a little bit of banding. But for the most part, both pictures were quite sharp, and I could not tell the difference. But edge goes to DirecTV at the moment.

Anyone else try this?

 

I think it depends on two things--the resolution of the VOD, and your internet bandwidth.  When I download from DTV, I try and select an HD version, which when viewed is pristine.  When I stream using Airplay, I don't think I am getting the same resolution on my DSL internet connection, because the PQ is not as good.

post #2015 of 3001
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Originally Posted by AustinJerry View Post

I think it depends on two things--the resolution of the VOD, and your internet bandwidth.  When I download from DTV, I try and select an HD version, which when viewed is pristine.  When I stream using Airplay, I don't think I am getting the same resolution on my DSL internet connection, because the PQ is not as good.

Yes that's right. My internet bandwidth is 1Gbps, though, so I am almost certainly getting the maximum available quality when streaming.

Both DTV and HBOGo/AirPlay are definitely delivering 1080 resolution. The differences I am talking about likely related to the different codecs they're using and the bitrate profile at which they're encoding.
post #2016 of 3001
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Originally Posted by Krutsch link


They aren't; at least, none of the ones I've purchased are in HD. Disappointing, to say the least, but at least you have the Blu-ray if you want to higher quality version.

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Your original appeared to express dismay with the ATV. Since the contents of a disc are up to the studio perhaps that's not what you meant.



Only one was (The Bourne Legacy) in HD. The same movies redeemed via Vudu (UV) are coming in as HD but not on iTunes. Why is this? It doesn't always appear to be up to the studios...

Is the Bourne Legacy available in iCloud for streaming to the Apple TV?
post #2017 of 3001
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Originally Posted by 9512tacoma View Post

Is the Bourne Legacy available in iCloud for streaming to the Apple TV?
The Bourne Legacy is available for sale or rent at the iTunes store.

1) Audio is DD 5.1
2) It comes with "Extras".

Apple doesn't "stream". They download the file to your Apple TV cache and you can start watching when it's estimated that you have enough cached to watch the entire movie without pausing.
post #2018 of 3001
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The Bourne Legacy is available for sale or rent at the iTunes store.

1) Audio is DD 5.1
2) It comes with "Extras".

Apple doesn't "stream". They download the file to your Apple TV cache and you can start watching when it's estimated that you have enough cached to watch the entire movie without pausing.

Which, frankly, is why I love my Apple TV. I've stopped using Vudu for this reason. I have a 50mbps connection, but on a Saturday night, trying to watch Vudu HDX I was often treated to the buffering message. After a couple of bad experiences, I dropped Vudu as a service when I want to rent a movie.
post #2019 of 3001
I purchased the bourne legacy blu ray combo pack with the HD iTunes digital copy. I downloaded the copy to my iTunes on my pc. My other digital copies show up on Apple TV without iTunes on my pc turned on except for bourne legacy. Apple support tells me it is not available for cloud streaming. Just seeing if others are having this issue?
post #2020 of 3001
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Originally Posted by 9512tacoma View Post

I purchased the bourne legacy blu ray combo pack with the HD iTunes digital copy. I downloaded the copy to my iTunes on my pc. My other digital copies show up on Apple TV without iTunes on my pc turned on except for bourne legacy. Apple support tells me it is not available for cloud streaming. Just seeing if others are having this issue?

Yes... welcome to media rights eek.gif

I have a couple of BDs that did this - I could download an SD version for iTunes, but the matching file is not available for streaming. Black Swan was one such title.
post #2021 of 3001
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Originally Posted by Krutsch View Post

Which, frankly, is why I love my Apple TV. I've stopped using Vudu for this reason. I have a 50mbps connection, but on a Saturday night, trying to watch Vudu HDX I was often treated to the buffering message. After a couple of bad experiences, I dropped Vudu as a service when I want to rent a movie.

I've had nothing but good results watching HDX on Vudu and I don't get nearly the connection speeds you're reporting.
post #2022 of 3001
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I've had nothing but good results watching HDX on Vudu and I don't get nearly the connection speeds you're reporting.

Same here, less then half that 50 mbps that you say your getting and get a flawless vudu stream.
post #2023 of 3001
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Originally Posted by lujan View Post

I've had nothing but good results watching HDX on Vudu and I don't get nearly the connection speeds you're reporting.

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Same here, less then half that 50 mbps that you say your getting and get a flawless vudu stream.

Well, as they say: Your Milage May Vary
post #2024 of 3001
My Apple TV drops out from time to time. Mostly during airplay video streaming, but sometimes during music playback via wifi. Sometimes the picture will drop out(screen goes black) and comes right back. Other times, the picture will freeze and then I get an error message referencing something about an hdcp connection. Does anyone know if this is a handshake issue network connection or something else? My Apple TV is connected via hdmi to a Yamaha 2010, which is connected to a samsung es7100's hdmi arc. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
post #2025 of 3001
Google hdcp.
post #2026 of 3001
Am I right? That you can't hook up a USB drive to Apple TV and play content
post #2027 of 3001
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Am I right? That you can't hook up a USB drive to Apple TV and play content
Yes. Have you read any of the documentation or any of the many articles or posts about the ATV?
post #2028 of 3001
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Am I right? That you can't hook up a USB drive to Apple TV and play content

Do you ever do any of your own research?
post #2029 of 3001
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Originally Posted by bodosom View Post

Yes. Have you read any of the documentation or any of the many articles or posts about the ATV?

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Do you ever do any of your own research?

Gee, what a surprise. Snarky replies to a straightforward question from both bodosom and Gary J. When I saw the OP's question, I was actually thinking that you two would likely respond with something similar.

Considering that zoro has been a member for more than a decade with close to 10,000 posts, he probably does have interest in the hobby and does research from time to time.
post #2030 of 3001
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Yes. Have you read any of the documentation or any of the many articles or posts about the ATV?

Gee, what a surprise. Snarky replies to a straightforward question from both bodosom and Gary J. When I saw the OP's question, I was actually thinking that you two would likely respond with something similar.
I answered the question and asked (an obvious) calibrating question. You on the other hand applied a value judgement to people that replied to what any reasonable person could conclude was a trolling post.

That makes you the least helpful.
post #2031 of 3001
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Originally Posted by bodosom View Post

I answered the question and asked (an obvious) calibrating question. You on the other hand applied a value judgement to people that replied to what any reasonable person could conclude was a trolling post.

That makes you the least helpful.

If you really thought that was a trolling post, you should not have replied, at all. My value judgement was spot on.
post #2032 of 3001
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Originally Posted by bodosom View Post

I answered the question and asked (an obvious) calibrating question. You on the other hand applied a value judgement to people that replied to what any reasonable person could conclude was a trolling post.

That makes you the least helpful.
cosigned. zoro has a history. Don't even know who the other guy is.
post #2033 of 3001
I read it somewhere either in this thread or another about using iTunes to Airplay audio to an Apple TV. When you play flac or aiff audio over Airplay, it down samples correct? Trying to get the best audio out possible over Airplay to an Apple TV in the entertainment room. Thanks!
post #2034 of 3001
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Originally Posted by bowmah View Post

I read it somewhere either in this thread or another about using iTunes to Airplay audio to an Apple TV. When you play flac or aiff audio over Airplay, it down samples correct? Trying to get the best audio out possible over Airplay to an Apple TV in the entertainment room. Thanks!

Correct. Everything converted to 48kHz sampling rate. So CDs at 44.1 are played at 48. FLAC files at 96 or 192 are down converted to 48. Better options are available if your goal is best audio out possible.
post #2035 of 3001
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Originally Posted by wadeh911 View Post

Correct. Everything converted to 48kHz sampling rate. So CDs at 44.1 are played at 48. FLAC files at 96 or 192 are down converted to 48. Better options are available if your goal is best audio out possible.

So iTunes takes some jigging to even import / play flac files. What other options are there? What about using the HTPC and VLC to output the audio via HDMI to the receiver?
post #2036 of 3001
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Originally Posted by bowmah View Post

So iTunes takes some jigging to even import / play flac files. What other options are there? What about using the HTPC and VLC to output the audio via HDMI to the receiver?

I found Ethernet provided my best performance between my HTPC and oppo bdp-105 analog 7.1 or 5.1 to my processor. No converting allowed!
post #2037 of 3001
ATV3, any JB?
post #2038 of 3001
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Originally Posted by zoro View Post

ATV3, any JB?
not for you.
post #2039 of 3001
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Originally Posted by comicguy View Post

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ATV3, any JB?
not for you.
May I request yours lol???
I like witty people if that's what you were aiming at?
post #2040 of 3001
NO, I was aiming at the fact that you had already asked this same question in another thread (and were answered this morning by another member) but were apparently too lazy to check that before you posted the question here....
I seriously don't understand how a 10+ year member posts like a frikkin' newbie...and then gets his shorts in a bunch when called out on it, but that's just me...
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