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post #2641 of 3001
Watched some programs this morning and they all played great with no annoying post play crap. The real test will be tonight after 7 PM EST.
post #2642 of 3001
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Originally Posted by Mr.G View Post

No change here. Firmware is still 6.0.2 and the ATV3 says it's up to date when I try a manual update. What are the Apple forums saying that caused the supposed cure?

Performance on my ATV3,1 is still quite variable. I think it's better but I'm still not regularly getting superHD. My non-ATV clients continue to perform at spec (5800, 4300 or 3000 for superHD content).

People appear to believe various things. The most common seems to be that Netflix changed their infrastructure but some people think there was a covert client update and some people have suggested that Comcast increased bandwidth to Netflix, as if this was a Comcast specific problem. I suppose Netflix could have tweaked something to compensate for the issue in the ATV client. I don't think they slipped in a new client but it is a black box and we only know what Apple chooses to tell us -- which is nothing beyond the release notes which stopped noting Netflix in 5.0.1.
Edited by bodosom - 12/18/13 at 12:37pm
post #2643 of 3001
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Originally Posted by bodosom View Post

Performance on my ATV3,1 is still quite variable. I think it's better but I'm still not regularly getting superHD. My non-ATV clients continue to perform at spec (5800, 4300 or 3000 for superHD content).

People appear to believe various things. The most common seems to be that Netflix changed their infrastructure but some people think there was a covert client update and some people have suggested that Comcast increased bandwidth to Netflix, as if this was a Comcast specific problem. I suppose Netflix could have tweaked something to compensate for the issue in the ATV client. I don't think they slipped in a new client but it is a black box and we only know what Apple chooses to tell us -- which is nothing.
Is 3000 Kbps considered good? I just tested mt ATV and it started at 5800, dropped to 1750 and then ramped up to 3000 and stayed there. It did show 1280 x 720 so I guess I answered my own question. While 3000kbps is far better than the 1750 I was getting a couple of days ago, I could still be doing better.
post #2644 of 3001
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Originally Posted by Mr.G View Post

No change here. Firmware is still 6.0.2 and the ATV3 says it's up to date when I try a manual update. What are the Apple forums saying that caused the supposed cure?

I (and others) did nothing but started seeing the improvement yesterday, The speculation is an Netflix App update for the Apple TV (which would be invisible to you and I) - but we will probably never know.

It is very consistent for me - 5800 kbps Super HD on example short and various titles independent of time of day. Back to where I was before early November.

Comcast 16 Mbps connection.
post #2645 of 3001
The real test will be tonight.
post #2646 of 3001
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Originally Posted by pappaduke View Post

Is 3000 Kbps considered good?
I believe 2850 is the minium for HD so you've exceeded that.
post #2647 of 3001
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Originally Posted by reddice View Post

The real test will be tonight.

My Apple TV was back to working perfectly with Netflix though prime time PST last night - we'll see if it does the same tonight......
post #2648 of 3001
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Originally Posted by avf5 View Post

It matters if your AVR features auto switch. ATV can be set to always “On” (or sleep/time).
I'm not familiar with auto switch and I don't think my pre/pro has that, or I'm just unaware if it does.

in any case, input 6 is not a bad idea.
post #2649 of 3001
Second day getting 5800 Kbps without ATV software update. were some specific servers down? was it due to the “Netflix app w/new UI” released in Nov? or…. it doesn’t matter?... wink.gif
post #2650 of 3001
Watching Columbo which is in Super HD and it is good so far.
post #2651 of 3001
BTW is there a shortcut secret screen to check the app versions like on the Roku?
post #2652 of 3001
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Originally Posted by undecided View Post

I (and others) did nothing but started seeing the improvement yesterday, The speculation is an Netflix App update for the Apple TV (which would be invisible to you and I) - but we will probably never know....

Interesting. is it possible? Apple furtively updated millions of ATVs within the last 24 hrs?
post #2653 of 3001
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Originally Posted by reddice View Post

BTW is there a shortcut secret screen to check the app versions like on the Roku?
no.
post #2654 of 3001
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Originally Posted by undecided View Post

My Apple TV was back to working perfectly with Netflix though prime time PST last night - we'll see if it does the same tonight......
In my case using the nflxvideo CDN is the/a problem. If I block nflxvideo my ATV can stream at superHD rates. This was also the case when using AirPlay (AirPlay often caused a switch to llnw) although the stream was limited to 4300.

CDN sensitivity is still an ATV only issue. None of my other devices are bandwidth limited when using nflxvideo.
post #2655 of 3001
Same BS again I tried now to watch Eureka and twice 2 minutes in it dropped down to SD quality. Back to the Roku 3 with its super annoying post play but at least it works.
post #2656 of 3001
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Originally Posted by avf5 View Post

Interesting. is it possible? Apple furtively updated millions of ATVs within the last 24 hrs?

Any update of any Apple TV app is by definition furtive. You have no visibility of app updates to existing apps or control whether they happen or not.

That said bodosom's post suggests that some sort of CDN dependency may have been part (or all) of the issue.
post #2657 of 3001
I too am finally receiving Super HD on Netlix for my ATV....streaming on the Netflix demo at 5800 Kbps. My iPad Air is still streaming at only 235 Kbps?!?! Both wifi in the same room... Must be something on the iPad holding it back similar to Apple TV (before today)?
post #2658 of 3001
Not me. Just rebooted this turd and played Warehouse 13 which was in glorious Super HD for 10 seconds then rebufferd to a low def mess. I am done I am selling this turd on eBay and disconnecting it. Don't need it for YouTube anymore as the Roku has that channel now.
post #2659 of 3001
My Apple TV is still getting low bit rate video, too. After a restart, things improved slightly (1750 kbps) but nowhere near the 5800 kbps my Roku 3 in the same location was getting. Plus the Roku (and Chromecast) get Dolby Digital+ so I guess I shouldn't complain.
Edited by Neil S. Bulk - 12/18/13 at 7:31pm
post #2660 of 3001
Disconnected per my sig. Anyone want a slightly used ATV?
post #2661 of 3001
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Originally Posted by reddice View Post

Disconnected per my sig. Anyone want a slightly used ATV?

If you are giving it away I'll take it. If you are selling it how much first?
post #2662 of 3001
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Originally Posted by GusGus748s View Post

If you are giving it away I'll take it. If you are selling it how much first?
I say $50 as I got it refurbished from Apple but it was still like new.
post #2663 of 3001
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Originally Posted by Neil S. Bulk View Post

My Apple TV is still getting low bit rate video, too.
I believe that will continue to be case until Netflix/Apple fix the underlying problem, Netflix routing stops connecting you to nflxvideo or you force the stream to come from Limelight or possibly Level3. I've also noticed very poor performance (560) on my iPads when they connect to nflxvideo.net this evening but I'll chalk that up to congestion.
post #2664 of 3001
Quick question. I'm using apple tv connected to an anthem receiver so I can stream spotify from my ipad. Is it best to have the volume maxed on the ipad? When I adjust the volume on the ipad, the main volume is not affected in the receiver.

Thanks
post #2665 of 3001
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Originally Posted by JasonT35 View Post

Is it best to have the volume maxed on the ipad?
I would think not. It's all digital. My AVR does AirPlay and the source volume control (iPad, iTunes etc.) controls the AVR master gain during AirPlay.
post #2666 of 3001
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Originally Posted by bodosom View Post

I would think not. It's all digital. My AVR does AirPlay and the source volume control (iPad, iTunes etc.) controls the AVR master gain during AirPlay.

Right. And thats the way it worked for me when I had a denon with built in airplay.

So now, would it be best to leave the ipad at maybe 50% max volume?? and then use the receiver to control the volume higher or lower as needed?
post #2667 of 3001
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Originally Posted by pappaduke View Post

Is 3000 Kbps considered good? I just tested mt ATV and it started at 5800, dropped to 1750 and then ramped up to 3000 and stayed there. It did show 1280 x 720 so I guess I answered my own question. While 3000kbps is far better than the 1750 I was getting a couple of days ago, I could still be doing better.
This is similar to what I am seeing. I have a slight improvement, but I'm not getting anywhere close to 5800.
post #2668 of 3001
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Originally Posted by met_fan View Post

This is similar to what I am seeing. I have a slight improvement, but I'm not getting anywhere close to 5800.
I got 3850kbps (1920x1080) this afternoon. If I can keep that I'll be happy. I believe that's 1080P. My ATV has the quickest access and the UI is the easiest to navigate. Those are the reasons I wish to continue using it for accessing Netflix.
post #2669 of 3001
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Originally Posted by undecided View Post

Many people on the Apple discussion forums are reporting that it seems the Netflix Apple TV issue is fixed.

I can confirm that I am getting reliable Netflix Super HD on my Apple TV tonight for the first time in over a month....
which version firmware does your unit have?
post #2670 of 3001
A quick update here: Netflix still looks terrible on my Apple TV, while looking great with my Roku 3 and Chromecast.
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